yamaha emx 312 powered mixer. anyone got/using one

bandmaster188

looking to buy one of these in a few days and just wanted to get some feedback, erh hum forgive the pun!

i play in a 4 piece rock and bluesy kind of band playing mostly pub gigs, just want to make sure its gonna be man enough. the other thing is the speaker inputs are 4 ohm but the yamaha speakers we currently have are 8 ohm. will this be a problem? and another thing, we will probably be getting it from thomann, do we have to pay any duty or vat when comes in?

cheers folks!

John_P

If it's just for vocals and you're backline/drums aren't insanely loud then it'll be fine.  I used to have the 512 and a rehearsal room i use has the 312 - simple to use and sounds ok.

No vat or duty from thomann - it's all included in the price - the only variation from the listed price will be due to exchange rates from using your card to pay but it'll only be a tiny difference.

bandmaster188

do you reckon we'd be better going for something with a bit more balls? like the 512

John_P

bandmaster188 said:

do you reckon we'd be better going for something with a bit more balls? like the 512

If you're thinking about putting the whole band through it, then I'd want more power - when I had the 512 I ran the sub out into another power amp running some subs.

bandmaster188

it would really only be used for vocals and micing the harmonica amp.

we've currently got a peavey xr600c which seems to do the job but is getting a bit tired.

maltingsaudio

Depends on the power rating of your speakers it delivers 180 watts per channel at 8 ohms good mixer for solo acoustic for a band it will struggle 

spacecadet

I've used the 312 and didn't rate the output at all. Just didn't have any balls whatsoever. The 512 would be better, especially if you're running at 8 ohms. I just find all Yamaha preamps below an 01V are just lacking in warmth or character. We occasionally use an MG mixer and it just doesn't inspire.

I'd look at either the Peavey equivalent which appears to be the XR8300 or pick up a used Dynacord Powermate.

Or alternatively, you could look at a separate mixer/ amp setup. More versatile, more features and not too different price wise.

bandmaster188

we are on a bit of a budget with this, so just looking at the berhinger pmp960, 6 channels and 900w. is the berhinger stuff that bad? (ducks for cover)

hearing mixed reports on it

spacecadet

It won't be 900w.

maltingsaudio

Believe it or not the output power at 8 ohms for this one is less than the Yamaha at 160 watts  per channel! Now Bandmaster what speakers do you have? If they are 100 watt at 8ohm there's plenty of power to drive them. It may be a case of using your existing mixer as a mixer only then getting a power amp to drive your speakers 

Behringer manual here http://www.behringer.com/assets/PMP960M_PMP980S_WebBrochure.pdf

bandmaster188

maltingsaudio said:

Believe it or not the output power at 8 ohms for this one is less than the Yamaha at 160 watts  per channel! Now Bandmaster what speakers do you have? If they are 100 watt at 8ohm there's plenty of power to drive them. It may be a case of using your existing mixer as a mixer only then getting a power amp to drive your speakers 

Behringer manual here http://www.behringer.com/assets/PMP960M_PMP980S_WebBrochure.pdf

After chatting to the singer today, I'm pretty sure he said they were 200w yamaha's. apparently our existing peavey xr600c is rated at 300 watts at 2 ohms which would mean we were only getting about 120w a side with our 8 ohm speakers. But it's always been loud enough for us.

maltingsaudio

If it ain't broke don't fix it! However if your budget is £350 based on the average price of an EMX then I would look at a power amplifier capable of at least 300 per side at 8 ohms and a small desk but having had a hunt round ebay 2 choices here 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EUROPOWER-PMP4000-1600-Watt-16-Channel-Powered-Mixer-Multi-FX-Processor-/261376627542?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cdb42d356

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EUROPOWER-PMP6000-1600-Watt-20-Channel-Powered-Mixer-Dual-Multi-FX-Proces-/261376629319?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cdb42da47 ;

bandmaster188

maltingsaudio said:

If it ain't broke don't fix it! However if your budget is £350 based on the average price of an EMX then I would look at a power amplifier capable of at least 300 per side at 8 ohms and a small desk but having had a hunt round ebay 2 choices here 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EUROPOWER-PMP4000-1600-Watt-16-Channel-Powered-Mixer-Multi-FX-Processor-/261376627542?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cdb42d356

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EUROPOWER-PMP6000-1600-Watt-20-Channel-Powered-Mixer-Dual-Multi-FX-Proces-/261376629319?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cdb42da47 ;

It is kind of broke but hanging in there. Think we might have to bust the budget a bit here and go for something bigger. Cheers for the input though people!

bandmaster188

we went for the emx 512 in the end and had a bit of a result as our kindly rehearsal studio owner got it for us at wholesale cost, so it was the same price as a 312 would have been off of the web. Happy days!