New Fender Mustang GT

monquixote

Great review from Shane. 

I agree entirely. I had one of the previous generation Mustangs and though the cleans were very good the drive sounds were awful and it HATED pedals.

Voxman

monquixote said:

Great review from Shane. 

I agree entirely. I had one of the previous generation Mustangs and though the cleans were very good the drive sounds were awful and it HATED pedals.

Modelling amps are simply not designed for use with pedals. 

monquixote

Voxman said:

monquixote said:

Great review from Shane. 

I agree entirely. I had one of the previous generation Mustangs and though the cleans were very good the drive sounds were awful and it HATED pedals.

Modelling amps are simply not designed for use with pedals. 

The high end ones are. I've seen plenty of pedal demos done with an Axe FX. 

By all accounts the Katana takes pedals OK.

EricTheWeary

fftc said:

Another review here. Worth a watch if you're tempted I reckon.

monquixote said:

Voxman said:

monquixote said:

Great review from Shane. 

I agree entirely. I had one of the previous generation Mustangs and though the cleans were very good the drive sounds were awful and it HATED pedals.

Modelling amps are simply not designed for use with pedals. 

The high end ones are. I've seen plenty of pedal demos done with an Axe FX. 

By all accounts the Katana takes pedals OK.

Watching bits of the demo, it's a fair advert for what a Bandit can do! I'd say my little Mustang is even worse than that GT200 with pedals.

Plectrum

Voxman said:

monquixote said:

Great review from Shane. 

I agree entirely. I had one of the previous generation Mustangs and though the cleans were very good the drive sounds were awful and it HATED pedals.

Modelling amps are simply not designed for use with pedals. 

My CODE works fine with pedals.

rlw

So does my non digital Vox AV30.

olafgarten

I think the main issue with Pedals on modelling amps in the past is that it raised the input level too far, these leads the amp to clip and that doesn't sound good. I think more modern amps are designed to lower the level if it is too high.

Voxman

The fact that some modelling amps might sound ok with pedals is a fortunate by product but its rarely by design because they are not aimed at pedal junkies who traditionally prefer valve amps. They are designed primarily to be used with the inbuilt effects as a complete package solution and one of their selling points is you don't need to carry around a heavy effects board with them

As an example, most of the Vox Valvetronix amps sound ok with pedals, but its not how they were designed to be used and their signal path design didn't have external pedals in mind.

The amps that were specifically designed for use with pedals and where the circuitry was designed for that very purpose are amps like the new Vox AV series (Analogue Valve) amps.  

Musicman20

I can't believe the latest pricing on the Yamaha THR....it's now a fairly old (but established) product....

fftc

Shane has some more to say!

monquixote

Wow Mustang fail.

EricTheWeary

Ha, just looked this up to post that video. Yet again seems you are better off with a Bandit. 

Chuffola

Disappointing but Shane knows his stuff. I was seriously thinking of getting one of these - not now.

Having said that, I've had the use of a Spider V 60 for the last couple of weeks and I'm really impressed with it. There are eleventy billion amps and fx and most aren't great. But some models are fantastic.

I've set up 3 great patches - Twin, edge-of-breakup Deluxe and Plexi - and they sound excellent.  At home  volumes, anyway- no idea, but suspect like most modelling amps they'd lose a lot live.  It also sounds great with the parlour acoustic - the tweeter adds a lot.

I'm very tempted to get one - its a lot of fun.

Voxman

Well, Shane's vid has totally put me off the GT Mustang.  I still like the v2 Mustangs which are good amps. Not sure why his vid showed a guitar instead of a blues junior though.  Be interested to watch his vid on the Katana 100, as he really comes across as a straight guy and seems to know his stuff.

EricTheWeary

Voxman said:

Well, Shane's vid has totally put me off the GT Mustang.  I still like the v2 Mustangs which are good amps. Not sure why his vid showed a guitar instead of a blues junior though.  Be interested to watch his vid on the Katana 100, as he really comes across as a straight guy and seems to know his stuff.

It is explained on the video (berry briefly) - he bought a blues jr with his shop credit but that was faulty, the other jr in the shop was faulty as well so he got the guitar.

fftc

Voxman said:

Well, Shane's vid has totally put me off the GT Mustang.  I still like the v2 Mustangs which are good amps. Not sure why his vid showed a guitar instead of a blues junior though.  Be interested to watch his vid on the Katana 100, as he really comes across as a straight guy and seems to know his stuff.

You've got to watch the text boxes starting at 3.15. Think Fender might have cursed him!

MattFGBI

I'd recommend trying one out for yourselves before making a decision. 

Telejester

If i had been shane id have taken a pro jr instead of a blues jr

monquixote

Telejester said:

If i had been shane id have taken a pro jr instead of a blues jr

He didn't take either the Blues Jr was DOA so he bought a guitar.

Voxman

monquixote said:

Telejester said:

If i had been shane id have taken a pro jr instead of a blues jr

He didn't take either the Blues Jr was DOA so he bought a guitar.

Pro junior is a decent amp; a blues junior isn't the worst amp ever made...but its friggin' close!  And at least the Mustang GT200 worked!!