Feedback in modern low volume stage scenarios

Axe_meister

Consider a modern larger stage.
18 watt backline with in ear monitors.
How the hell do you get howling feedback without sticking your guitar 2 inches away from the speaker?

NelsonP

Freq out?

welshboyo

18 watts of valve is still plenty loud and enough to get feedback...

Otherwise its a Metal Zone and a hollowbody

Hoof

If in doubt, more gain.

It's a strange world we've made for ourselves. I was doing a studio session a few years back and the engineer couldn't fathom why me and the other guitarist wanted to be in the room with the amps with headphone monitors instead of in the nice, comfy and quiet control room when we were doing the solos and overdubs.

"Err, do you WANT a load of feedback on the recording?"

Reply (with tongue in cheek):
"Yeah, some. Do you want paying?"

ICBM

http://img.audiofanzine.com/images/u/product/normal/boss-df-2-super-feedbacker-distortion-4347.jpg

Works with any amp, at any volume. Even zero stage volume.

digitalscream

Get a wah with a level boost, like the Weeping Demon (Junior or full-fat). Set the boost high (= more distortion), and use the treadle to control the pitch of the feedback. Works like a charm.

Paul_L

I saw a demo of the Freq Out on premier guitar. Interesting...

Would using a small mixer to feed in some of the guitars output back into the signal chain work?

richh

Or you can use a guitar fitted with a Fernandes Sustainer pickup - or an alternative, as there are other similar pickup systems.  These even work at zero room volume, for headphone situations.

Axe_meister

But these solutions don't quite get that low gain high volume feedback just on the edge of feeding back sound.
The only other solution I though of was a loud combo on stage firing at me from the front that I can kick in when needed.

professorben

What about an ISO Cab..... with a guitar in it. 

olafgarten

If you get an Attenuator with a Line Out, you can feed that into the front of the amp. You could make a small switching box to control it.

octatonic

Use a bit more gain and couple the guitar to the amplifier/speaker system- meaning walking over to the amp and rest the headstock on the top of the head/combo.

octatonic

professorben said:

What about an ISO Cab..... with a guitar in it. 

In a studio then couple the guitar to the studio monitors- I do this all the time with the Axe FX.

professorben

octatonic said:

professorben said:

What about an ISO Cab..... with a guitar in it. 

In a studio then couple the guitar to the studio monitors- I do this all the time with the Axe FX.

Tune to an open chord and capo to the key of the song. 


Simple. 

RocknRollDave

ICBM said:

http://img.audiofanzine.com/images/u/product/normal/boss-df-2-super-feedbacker-distortion-4347.jpg

Works with any amp, at any volume. Even zero stage volume.

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