Question about Locking Tuners

delorean

So I have one of these lovely ladies : http://m.guitarguitar.co.uk/Product/14031113061058

I would like to switch the tuners out for locking ones but really don't want to take a drill to my guitar..!

Does anyone know if there are any direct drop-in replacements that would work? 

Flink_Poyd

Why do you need locking tuners? It's got a locking nut already

Nice guitar BTW.

delorean

Thanks man

Just to make string changes that little bit faster really

bacchanalian

You can buy Fender locking tuners with a two pin mount that should just drop in with no drilling required.  These are made by Schaller. I recently the the tuners on a CS tele for locking tuners.  I went with the Schaller F type in nickel because I preferred the look to the Schaller made but fender logo'd tuners

bazxkr

According to the GG spec sheet they are sd91 vintage style tuners so the 2 pin won't fit without drilling.and even if you did you may see the original hole. Completely different design of tuner. Do they do vintage style locking tuners I've not seen any but guess never looked. Seen two types of vintage tuners on starts too...one has hole central on side other has on the corners. Be sure before you buy. 

delorean

Thanks guys - sounds like this will require some indepth research!

Last thing I want is to see the holes,  or to mess up my guitar with my cack-handed drilling attempts! 

Might be worth me dropping Fender an email

delorean

Out of curiosity,  what do you make of these?   The F-mount Locking ones:

http://www.kluson.com/revolution.html

Just stumbled across them a moment ago. Allegedly a direct retrofit for some Fenders

guitarfishbay

Before you buy the locking tuners, which I'm assuming you'll string using minimal wrap around the post -

One cool thing you can do with a Floyd is save a string that snaps at the bridge. If you have enough extra winds at the post, you can just unwind some extra length and re clamp to the bridge.

Obviously if you would prefer a totally fresh string I get that, but I used to do that all the time on my old RG to save the money and hassle of a restring for as long as possible 

Philly_Q

I can't tell from the picture in the original post but if they're '50s Kluson style tuners, Gotoh make locking versions.  Look for Gotoh SD91-MG.  They do two types, one with a locking mechanism in the string post and now one with a thumbwheel at the back like a Sperzel or Schaller.

bacchanalian

@delorean Apologies. I think you need to be looking at Gotoh. I did not realise it was Fender Japan. Again I am pretty sure that there is a direct locking replacement.

Does this one one look like yours?
http://g-gotoh.com/international/product/sd91-mg-t.html

Voxman

I have a USA Standard Strat and wanted to change my tuners for locking versions too.  As per the OP it must be an easy direct replacement drop-in fit - no drilling etc.  Which tuners (chrome, locking) would be appropriate guys, and where's the best place to buy these?

bazxkr

Philly_Q said:

I can't tell from the picture in the original post but if they're '50s Kluson style tuners, Gotoh make locking versions.  Look for Gotoh SD91-MG.  They do two types, one with a locking mechanism in the string post and now one with a thumbwheel at the back like a Sperzel or Schaller.

Yeh, does look like Gotoh make a locking version of the SD91 so a straight swap...altho not cheap I bet

bazxkr

Voxman said:

I have a USA Standard Strat and wanted to change my tuners for locking versions too.  As per the OP it must be an easy direct replacement drop-in fit - no drilling etc.  Which tuners (chrome, locking) would be appropriate guys, and where's the best place to buy these?

Hi Rich pretty certain the USA std has the 2 pin fitting. I've put Fender part no 0990818100 6 in line chrome locking tuners on 2 USA and was a straight swap. Have a set of sperzels that went straight on too but I don't know the spec of them. All work fine. I've also picked up a pair of vanson lockers off ebay and they have been fine so far too

professorben

Easy solution, string it 'back to front' thread the ball ends through the machine heads clip to length and pop into the bridge, quick neat and no nasty string ends.

Also if you use D'Addario you get pretty coloured ball ends.

Voxman

bazxkr said:

Voxman said:

I have a USA Standard Strat and wanted to change my tuners for locking versions too.  As per the OP it must be an easy direct replacement drop-in fit - no drilling etc.  Which tuners (chrome, locking) would be appropriate guys, and where's the best place to buy these?

Hi Rich pretty certain the USA std has the 2 pin fitting. I've put Fender part no 0990818100 6 in line chrome locking tuners on 2 USA and was a straight swap. Have a set of sperzels that went straight on too but I don't know the spec of them. All work fine. I've also picked up a pair of vanson lockers off ebay and they have been fine so far too

I'm double double checking with Fender but I think you're spot on that's these will drop in:
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/262968483995?chn=ps&adgroupid=42212778379&rlsatarget=pla-299853472283&abcId=1088876&adtype=pla&merchantid=113806771&poi=&googleloc=9045984&device=c&campaignid=807470815&crdt=0

ICBM

professorben said:

Easy solution, string it 'back to front' thread the ball ends through the machine heads clip to length and pop into the bridge, quick neat and no nasty string ends.

Also if you use D'Addario you get pretty coloured ball ends.

I used to think that was a great idea until I had to change a broken string when it had been done like that, without pliers to hand. It's almost impossible to pull the ball end out of the tuner post when the string has been firmly bent round it.

delorean

bacchanalian said:

@delorean Apologies. I think you need to be looking at Gotoh. I did not realise it was Fender Japan. Again I am pretty sure that there is a direct locking replacement.

Does this one one look like yours?
http://g-gotoh.com/international/product/sd91-mg-t.html

Hmm strangely nope - Mine look very much like these:  https://www.allparts.uk.com/products/gotoh-mini-tuning-keys-schaller-style-6-in-line-gotoh-part-no-sg360 ;

Moloch

Hipshot make locking tuners that come with a kind of bar to secure them, so they're drill-free.

bacchanalian

Hmm strangely nope - Mine look very much like these:  https://www.allparts.uk.com/products/gotoh-mini-tuning-keys-schaller-style-6-in-line-gotoh-part-no-sg360 ;

That is strange.  I wonder if the information on the guitar guitar website is accurate. If you try Fender Customer Services they are pretty good about sending out specs and are probably best to advise you 

professorben

ICBM said:

professorben said:

Easy solution, string it 'back to front' thread the ball ends through the machine heads clip to length and pop into the bridge, quick neat and no nasty string ends.

Also if you use D'Addario you get pretty coloured ball ends.

I used to think that was a great idea until I had to change a broken string when it had been done like that, without pliers to hand. It's almost impossible to pull the ball end out of the tuner post when the string has been firmly bent round it.

Soooooo you are saying that you, @ICBM, were unprepared for a repair scenario?


I'm now questioning everything.

professorben

ICBM said:

professorben said:

Easy solution, string it 'back to front' thread the ball ends through the machine heads clip to length and pop into the bridge, quick neat and no nasty string ends.

Also if you use D'Addario you get pretty coloured ball ends.

I used to think that was a great idea until I had to change a broken string when it had been done like that, without pliers to hand. It's almost impossible to pull the ball end out of the tuner post when the string has been firmly bent round it.

And the answer is btw to thread the broken end through the ball end forming a loop and pull it out with the trem arm.