I want a Jaguar.

Loobs

This is a pointless post to say that I recorded with a borrowed AVRI Jaguar on Friday, then did a gig with it the next night. 

It had 11s, was refretted and had a mastery and fuck I'm in love now. 

Vintage Jags aren't all that pricey are they? 

dogload

Not compared to Japanese ones

Trotter

Love them. Have two currently, sadly neither are vintage but one has lollar for Jag pickups, staytrem etc and it records so so well. the other is a Jag Baritone special which is just a beast. Arguably not a real jag but such a fun instrument. 

Neil

Funny how tastes vary isn't it? 

The Jag I had was my least liked guitar and the only electric I have sold.

equalsql

Me too 

https://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2012/01/22/23/39/1961_jaguar_e-type-pic-6868571363631466285.jpeg

proggy

equalsql said:

Me too 

https://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2012/01/22/23/39/1961_jaguar_e-type-pic-6868571363631466285.jpeg

Now that's a Jag I would like to own.

equalsql

What about one of them Squier vintage modified jobbies?
They look like a lot of guitar for not much dosh.

http://fencedinarea.com/Images/Gear/Squier_Jaguar_01_120717.jpg

GavRichList

Loobs said:

This is a pointless post to say that I recorded with a borrowed AVRI Jaguar on Friday, then did a gig with it the next night. 

It had 11s, was refretted and had a mastery and fuck I'm in love now. 

Vintage Jags aren't all that pricey are they? 

They've gone up fast, what with the pound tanking as it is. The money I paid for my slab 62 will barely buy you a seventies now, and I've only had it what, a couple of years? 

BintyTwanger77

Really love my Johnny Marr Jag. The mods on it are superb.

dogload

equalsql said:

What about one of them Squier vintage modified jobbies?
They look like a lot of guitar for not much dosh.

http://fencedinarea.com/Images/Gear/Squier_Jaguar_01_120717.jpg

They aren't bad - I preferred mine to the MIJ I had. They benefit from new pickups and a good setup. In the long term upgrade the hardware and wiring but otherwise, they are decent.

darthed1981

dogload said:

equalsql said:

What about one of them Squier vintage modified jobbies?
They look like a lot of guitar for not much dosh.

http://fencedinarea.com/Images/Gear/Squier_Jaguar_01_120717.jpg

They aren't bad - I preferred mine to the MIJ I had. They benefit from new pickups and a good setup. In the long term upgrade the hardware and wiring but otherwise, they are decent.

To give a reasonable summary, as I am thinking of buying the VM Jazzmaster...

Given all guitars benefit from a good setup, and people talk about changing pickups and electronics on basically any stock guitar if they do that kind of thing...

Basically the Squier VMs are excellent guitars that present exceptional value for money...?

Funkfingers

I have a love/hate relationship with my Fender AVRI Jaguar. Despite a good set up, it can be hateful to play. On the other hand, nothing else makes those unique sounds.

Musicman20

This is my department!

I currently own:

-  CIJ Thinline Jaguar in Sunburst - absolutely stunningly well made and light guitar. Great bright tone, typical Jaguar twang and cut through tone.

 - AVRI 65 Special Run in Sonic Blue - beautiful paintwork, gorgeous sound, a very unique instrument.

The CIJ probably has a higher level of fit and finish, but the AVRI has a more refined tone and is more vintage correct, obviously.

You will be disgusted to know that Fender had a big sale on Jaguars about two years back. I haven't seen anything like those deals since the £ absolutely gave up it's poor life.

We are talking literally half price...I wish I'd bought a few more.

I actually tried a Johnny Marr Jaguar early in the Sherwood Green run, and whilst the mods, the feel and the overall aesthetics were amazing, (and I still want one) the QC was terrible on that guitar, especially considering the price. It was obvious the paint had not cured and they had rushed it out. Plus it just looked a little messy in certain areas.

I still want a Johnny Marr but I am not paying the price they are now.

impmann

Hmmm, a lot of the Squier VM Jags need more than a set up if you want to bend more than a semi tone past the 15th fret and don't want an action like Mascis uses... some of them have atrocious fretting.

I have an MIJ with a Mastery and AVRI bridge (and pickups... although they are due for replacement as Fender just can't make good Jag pickups at the moment). It's a superb instrument. Ive truly yet to play a better Jaguar - and I've played *a lot*.

dogload

Yes, I shimmed the neck on mine and it is vastly improved.
As for the pickups, I found the originals a bit harsh. It's got Duncan Vintage 2s in now. I'm not one for just swapping-out pickups, but the difference is worth the bother.

Personally, I found the Squier VM Jazzmasters to be less good than thye Jags - I have tried several. Although I love the Squier J Mascis JM.

Neil

dogload said:

equalsql said:

What about one of them Squier vintage modified jobbies?
They look like a lot of guitar for not much dosh.

They aren't bad - I preferred mine to the MIJ I had. They benefit from new pickups and a good setup. In the long term upgrade the hardware and wiring but otherwise, they are decent.

So, the woods all right then?

Funkfingers

impmann said:

Fender just can't make good Jag pickups at the moment.

Shh! I traded a pair of Fender AVRI Jaguar pickups to somebody on this board. I don't want him to find out that they're mediocre.

dogload

Neil said:

dogload said:

equalsql said:

What about one of them Squier vintage modified jobbies?
They look like a lot of guitar for not much dosh.

They aren't bad - I preferred mine to the MIJ I had. They benefit from new pickups and a good setup. In the long term upgrade the hardware and wiring but otherwise, they are decent.

So, the woods all right then?

It's not bad once you remove the horrendously thick polyester coating and refinish it in nitro...

Loobs

GavRichList said:

Loobs said:

This is a pointless post to say that I recorded with a borrowed AVRI Jaguar on Friday, then did a gig with it the next night. 

It had 11s, was refretted and had a mastery and fuck I'm in love now. 

Vintage Jags aren't all that pricey are they? 

They've gone up fast, what with the pound tanking as it is. The money I paid for my slab 62 will barely buy you a seventies now, and I've only had it what, a couple of years? 

There's a few early to mid 60s knocking around on ebay kleinanzeigen (germany's gumtree equivalent) between 3000 and 4000 euros. Is that a lot more than what you paid?

Examples:

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/treebay-ad.html?id=v1|142403815028|0

Looks like a refin?

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/treebay-ad.html?id=v1|152573851054|0

pre-cbs, most mojo...

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/fender-jaguar-bj-1963-original-vintage-usa-3-color-sunburst/651816775-74-2037

early CBS with bound freboard (probably the coolest here imo)

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/1965-fender-jaguar/641952354-74-5589

Loobs

Funkfingers said:

I have a love/hate relationship with my Fender AVRI Jaguar. Despite a good set up, it can be hateful to play. On the other hand, nothing else makes those unique sounds.

Why hateful? What strings/bridge?

GavRichList

Loobs said:

GavRichList said:

Loobs said:

This is a pointless post to say that I recorded with a borrowed AVRI Jaguar on Friday, then did a gig with it the next night. 

It had 11s, was refretted and had a mastery and fuck I'm in love now. 

Vintage Jags aren't all that pricey are they? 

They've gone up fast, what with the pound tanking as it is. The money I paid for my slab 62 will barely buy you a seventies now, and I've only had it what, a couple of years? 

There's a few knocking around on ebay kleinanzeigen (germany's gumtree equivalent) between 3000 and 4000 euros. Is that a lot more than what you paid?

Examples:

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/treebay-ad.html?id=v1|142403815028|0

Looks like a refin?

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/treebay-ad.html?id=v1|152573851054|0

pre-cbs, most mojo...

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/fender-jaguar-bj-1963-original-vintage-usa-3-color-sunburst/651816775-74-2037

early CBS with bound freboard (probably the coolest here imo)

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/1965-fender-jaguar/641952354-74-5589

I paid £2020 for mine, and it's 100% original w/ case, 1962 slab board. Sunburst I grant you, but slabs were only around for the first 3 months of production so relatively rare. That wasn't a HUGE bargain at the time, but very fast became one.