Something going down in DC?

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edited August 13 in Politics Economics
Is there something going down in DC?


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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3322
    Smearing FBI IMHO
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 781
    edited February 3
    Jalapeno said:
    Smearing FBI IMHO
    From the way the congressman is talking I'm assuming they have some hard evidence? I've also been hearing things about a foreign spy ring in congress. Just when you thought things couldn't get any crazier in the US, you find out that they can!
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3322
    It was Fox news, hardly paragon of truth and clear reporting
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 781
    edited February 3
    Jalapeno said:
    It was Fox news, hardly paragon of truth and clear reporting
    Are you suggesting the congressman is making it all up? If he is, then fair enough, but if he isn't where are the rest of the media? I mean he has made some pretty bold claims there.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 14227
    The US gets more and more like a reality TV / soap opera show.


    I'm not going to bother with the next series though.
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  • TTony said:
    The US gets more and more like a reality TV / soap opera show.


    I'm not going to bother with the next series though.
    It's best to wait for the cliffhanger  =)
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  • RavenousRavenous Frets: 1443
    Freebird said:
    TTony said:
    The US gets more and more like a reality TV / soap opera show.


    I'm not going to bother with the next series though.
    It's best to wait for the cliffhanger  =)

    The very last episode will show everyone died years ago and has been in Limbo ever since...
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  • I love how they describe Obama as the most left wing presentend they have ever had. They have no idea what left wing really is. I'd describe Obama as centrist at best.

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  • Drew_TNBDDrew_TNBD Frets: 22388
    I love how they describe Obama as the most left wing presentend they have ever had. They have no idea what left wing really is. I'd describe Obama as centrist at best.

    He implemented a form of social healthcare. He's left-wing.
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3322
    Eh ?
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 16220
    Jalapeno said:
    Eh ?
    Thread title .. something going down in DC .. ;-)
    My pump-action drivel gun is smoking hot today!
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 13038
    Hang on... I thought they'd binned that fuckstick Hannity?
    98% shouting at clouds and 2% laminate flooring
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    Drew_TNBD said:
    I love how they describe Obama as the most left wing presentend they have ever had. They have no idea what left wing really is. I'd describe Obama as centrist at best.

    He implemented a form of social healthcare. He's left-wing.
    I think the best you can say is that he's slightly more to the left than most US politicians.  It's all relative.
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2822
    Drew_TNBD said:
    I love how they describe Obama as the most left wing presentend they have ever had. They have no idea what left wing really is. I'd describe Obama as centrist at best.

    He implemented a form of social healthcare. He's left-wing.
    That was a right wing health care plan originally devised by a right think tank and instituted by Mitt Romney when he was the Govenor of Massachusetts.  It's not really a left wing plan.

    Obama in my opinion is a centrist.  He was left on a lot of social issues and leaned to the right on financial institutions, health insurers and military.  
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  • Drew_TNBDDrew_TNBD Frets: 22388
    Adam_MD said:
    Drew_TNBD said:
    I love how they describe Obama as the most left wing presentend they have ever had. They have no idea what left wing really is. I'd describe Obama as centrist at best.

    He implemented a form of social healthcare. He's left-wing.
    That was a right wing health care plan originally devised by a right think tank and instituted by Mitt Romney when he was the Govenor of Massachusetts.  It's not really a left wing plan.

    Obama in my opinion is a centrist.  He was left on a lot of social issues and leaned to the right on financial institutions, health insurers and military.  
    Hold up... are you saying that right-wing politicians care about social healthcare? That certainly isn't what I was told!!
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2822
    Drew_TNBD said:
    Adam_MD said:

    That was a right wing health care plan originally devised by a right think tank and instituted by Mitt Romney when he was the Govenor of Massachusetts.  It's not really a left wing plan.

    Obama in my opinion is a centrist.  He was left on a lot of social issues and leaned to the right on financial institutions, health insurers and military.  
    Hold up... are you saying that right-wing politicians care about social healthcare? That certainly isn't what I was told!!
    No. more that the democrats were so weak (bought) while they had the majority that the ACA was the best they could do at the time and is descended from the plan Mitt Romney started as govenor.  

    Republicans have been railing against it since the beginning and rather amusingly their last repeal and replace push has only served to make it more popular with voters than it ever has been.

    A truly left wing social medicine plan is Bernie's Medicare for all bill which is massively popular amongst voters polling around 69% though unsurprisingly not popular with democrats or republicans considering medical insurance companies are some of their largest donors.
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  • Drew_TNBDDrew_TNBD Frets: 22388
    Emp_Fab said:
    Hang on... I thought they'd binned that fuckstick Hannity?
    Shut up Kevin.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 781
    edited December 2017
    More info on the alleged foreign spy ring inside congress is coming out.
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2822
    Freebird said:
    More info on the alleged foreign spy ring inside congress. Apologies for the Fox News link, but the liberal media seem to be avoiding this story like a hot potato.


    Lol Lou Dobbs always a  credible source of info. Will you be posting an Alex Jones link next? 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 31571
    Adam_MD said:
    Drew_TNBD said:
    I love how they describe Obama as the most left wing presentend they have ever had. They have no idea what left wing really is. I'd describe Obama as centrist at best.

    He implemented a form of social healthcare. He's left-wing.
    That was a right wing health care plan originally devised by a right think tank and instituted by Mitt Romney when he was the Govenor of Massachusetts.  It's not really a left wing plan.

    Obama in my opinion is a centrist.  He was left on a lot of social issues and leaned to the right on financial institutions, health insurers and military.  
    Exactly.

    FDR was their most left-wing President, by a long way. The New Deal was not far off European-style socialism in some ways.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3322
    Fretwired said:
    Jalapeno said:
    Eh ?
    Thread title .. something going down in DC .. ;-)
    Ah.  Grumble-groan ....
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 781
    edited February 3
    Adam_MD said:
    Freebird said:
    More info on the alleged foreign spy ring inside congress. Apologies for the Fox News link, but the liberal media seem to be avoiding this story like a hot potato.
    Lol Lou Dobbs always a  credible source of info. Will you be posting an Alex Jones link next? 
    Like I said, I can only post links from those who are reporting it, and the rest of the MSM are currently silent. The important point is the congressman being interviewed in on the Armed Services and Judiciary Committees in the House of Representatives, so it is irrelevant who is interviewing him.

    He is intimating that there is a foreign spy ring operating within congress, and that elected house members are also somehow involved. It is suspected they have been tapping into the house computer systems and stealing classified information.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 781
    edited October 2017
    It looks like the congressmen were onto something after all, the Russian collusion story seems to have taken an unexpected turn.
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 16220
    TTony said:
    The US gets more and more like a reality TV / soap opera show.


    I'm not going to bother with the next series though.
    You might .. Kim Kharashian's going to run for President. She and Wayne fancy a new house in Washington and she so gets all the realty TV stuff. Louboutin's for everyone.
    My pump-action drivel gun is smoking hot today!
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2822
    Freebird said:
    It looks like the congressmen were onto something after all, the Russian collusion story seems to have taken an unexpected turn.
    The dnc funding trump Russia investigations?  It's hardly news or a scandal imho.  Both presidential candidates have been compromised to some extent by Russia.  The clintons through their uranium deal and trump has been laundering Russian oligarch money through his property deals for decades whether the stuff in the dossier gets proved or not.  

    Quite a lot of the stuff in that dossier HAS been corroborated regardless of whether the tabloid worthy pee tape stuff is accurate or not.  
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 781
    edited October 2017
    Adam_MD said:
    The dnc funding trump Russia investigations?  It's hardly news or a scandal imho.
    It all depends if the dossier they paid for was used as the basis for issuing FISA warrents to spy on the Trump team during the election campaign, and also the appointment of Special Council Meuller. There is a clear motive that Clinton/Obama & co wanted all the Uranium One stuff to remain buried.

    Incidently, what parts of the dossier were true?
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2822
    Freebird said:
    Adam_MD said:
    The dnc funding trump Russia investigations?  It's hardly news or a scandal imho.
    It all depends if the dossier they paid for was used as the basis for issuing FISA warrents to spy on the Trump team during the election campaign, and also the appointment of Special Council Meuller. There is a clear motive that Clinton wanted all the Uranium One stuff to remain buried.

    Incidently, what parts of the dossier were true?

    The parts which have have been corroborated so far are all of the meetings which Orbis claimed occurred between officials of the trump campaign and Russian officials in the year before the election.  Paul Manfort, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn and Carter Page all had meetings listed in the document in entries from June, July which we now know did occur.

    It claimed Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn were receiving money from foreign governments which turned out to be true Paul Manafort from Ukraine and Michael Flynn from Turkey.

    A lot of the dossier has been corroborated now but the only bit people focus on is the prostitution allegations which are one of the least interesting bits.

    Its also frustrating that the news is just focusing on Clinton or the dnc having funded this research when it was started by an 'Unnammed Republican'. So probably Ted Cruz or Jen Bush started to fund it then stopped when trump won the nomination.  It's not a particularly interesting story.  I'm more interested in how despite the fact she lost the election the clintons are desperately trying to retain control of the dnc and ousting Keith Ellison and Bernie Supporters to keep the dnc budgets secret, change primary rules to keep super delegates and ensure there's no chance for a progressive candidate to gain any support in the party.

    An excellent quote from Bernie a few months ago regarding the democrats is that they're quite happy to go down with the Titanic as long as they have first class seats.  There's enough overt corruption in the democratic and republican parties without the salacious bullshit the mainstream media is pushing out to distract from the real issues.  

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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 781
    edited February 3
    Adam_MD said:
    Freebird said:
    Adam_MD said:
    The dnc funding trump Russia investigations?  It's hardly news or a scandal imho.
    It all depends if the dossier they paid for was used as the basis for issuing FISA warrents to spy on the Trump team during the election campaign, and also the appointment of Special Council Meuller. There is a clear motive that Clinton wanted all the Uranium One stuff to remain buried.

    Incidently, what parts of the dossier were true?

    The parts which have have been corroborated so far are all of the meetings which Orbis claimed occurred between officials of the trump campaign and Russian officials in the year before the election.  Paul Manfort, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn and Carter Page all had meetings listed in the document in entries from June, July which we now know did occur.

    It claimed Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn were receiving money from foreign governments which turned out to be true Paul Manafort from Ukraine and Michael Flynn from Turkey.

    A lot of the dossier has been corroborated now but the only bit people focus on is the prostitution allegations which are one of the least interesting bits.

    Its also frustrating that the news is just focusing on Clinton or the dnc having funded this research when it was started by an 'Unnammed Republican'. So probably Ted Cruz or Jen Bush started to fund it then stopped when trump won the nomination.  It's not a particularly interesting story.  I'm more interested in how despite the fact she lost the election the clintons are desperately trying to retain control of the dnc and ousting Keith Ellison and Bernie Supporters to keep the dnc budgets secret, change primary rules to keep super delegates and ensure there's no chance for a progressive candidate to gain any support in the party.

    An excellent quote from Bernie a few months ago regarding the democrats is that they're quite happy to go down with the Titanic as long as they have first class seats.  There's enough overt corruption in the democratic and republican parties without the salacious bullshit the mainstream media is pushing out to distract from the real issues.  

    Here is the latest update from the House Intel Committee Chairman Rep Nunes. It seems as though the FBI & DOJ may be somehow involved in all of this too? I think we will have to wait and see how this all turns out, as the story is still unfolding..


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