Slide rig vs Cali76

ToneControl

I think most people know that these are made in the UK, and are now world famous. 

Aim is to get the 1176 studio compressor feel into pedals

Sliderig uses 2 in series. My question is, for those who understand compressors and studio kit better:

"What is the different between using 2 x 1176 in series compared to one with a higher compression setting?

Is it because each has a slightly different setting?

I own this one: https://origineffects.com/product/cali76-compact-deluxe/, which is like the original large Cali76, with more mixing options on it than the original one

They have a new, smaller slideRig too: https://origineffects.com/product/sliderig-compact-deluxe/

 The sliderig is intended for intense, electric slide playing https://origineffects.com/videos/

 Pete Thorn: shows off the original and latest range: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGHPVkVdyy4 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM5DuRfvK08

Wazmeister

I've just had this dilemma and have actually a/b both side by side this week.

There was not much between them, to be honest, although the second comp on the Slide rig can give me umpf and added sustain.

Teetonetal

I had both the CD and the big box sliderig for a while. I think the CD is the only compressor I will ever need. Whilst I liked the SR, I found it worked best for intended application, I wasn't so keen on it's supersquishyness and as a normal compressor I missed the options of the CD (/like mix)

JezWynd

The SlideRig doesn't allow you to vary the attack, so for chicken pickin etc. prob not the best choice. It does have a mix control, in that it allows you to control the amount of dry signal.

ToneControl

Teetonetal said:

I had both the CD and the big box sliderig for a while. I think the CD is the only compressor I will ever need. Whilst I liked the SR, I found it worked best for intended application, I wasn't so keen on it's supersquishyness and as a normal compressor I missed the options of the CD (/like mix)

that's what I suspected

ToneControl

my mate plays exclusively acoustic lap steel, and uses a magnetic soundhole pickup, very clean with hardly any reverb
he was thinking of the sliderig, 

but I have recommended the CD Deluxe to him

StuartMac290

My partner uses the Slide Rig Compact Deluxe with her Gibson Advanced Jumbo, and it's great - just keep the level of the second compressor at zero and it works pretty much just like the CD anyway. She tends to use the blend at about 50/50. 

I love having the option of quickly dialling in the second compressor for slide and for ambient, spacy stuff. I'd personally go for the Slide Rig CD as it's more versatile overall. 

JDE

To be honest (name's on the tin), I'm not sure why non-slide players would consider the SR. it's a great pedal but it's super-specific, if that makes sense. For general playing it's too much, unless you're running a very clean amp with single coils. 
For acoustic lap it would probably not be a good fit. If you sustain acoustic too much it sounds very artificial, even though the SR itself is very natural sounding. For his purposes, he's probably better off with a general purpose compressor to reduce the boominess of the low strings and raise the volume of the E and B strings and add a touch of sustain. The Boss CP1-X Multiband Compressor is very good for acoustic slide. 

ToneControl

StuartMac290 said:

My partner uses the Slide Rig Compact Deluxe with her Gibson Advanced Jumbo, and it's great - just keep the level of the second compressor at zero and it works pretty much just like the CD anyway. She tends to use the blend at about 50/50. 

I love having the option of quickly dialling in the second compressor for slide and for ambient, spacy stuff. I'd personally go for the Slide Rig CD as it's more versatile overall. 

but the old slide rig has 2 footswitches? surely more flexible?

ToneControl

JDE said:

To be honest (name's on the tin), I'm not sure why non-slide players would consider the SR. it's a great pedal but it's super-specific, if that makes sense. For general playing it's too much, unless you're running a very clean amp with single coils. 
For acoustic lap it would probably not be a good fit. If you sustain acoustic too much it sounds very artificial, even though the SR itself is very natural sounding. For his purposes, he's probably better off with a general purpose compressor to reduce the boominess of the low strings and raise the volume of the E and B strings and add a touch of sustain. The Boss CP1-X Multiband Compressor is very good for acoustic slide. 

ooh didn't know there was a multiband boss

I think sliderig on acoustic would be a special effect, something like a Daniel Lanois trick, not a purist acoustic player's style
I think he needs the pseudo-studio-comp aspect, i.e. the Cali76 CD deluxe

on recordings though, I'm a big fan of multibands

Jonathanthomas83

JDE said:

To be honest (name's on the tin), I'm not sure why non-slide players would consider the SR. it's a great pedal but it's super-specific, if that makes sense. For general playing it's too much, unless you're running a very clean amp with single coils. 

Couldn't disagree with this more. It works perfectly well for non-slide applications.

The differences between it and the Cali are negligible, sound-wise. Though the second stage is a huge bonus, IMO. It's the controls that will make the difference.

JDE

Jonathanthomas83 said:

JDE said:

To be honest (name's on the tin), I'm not sure why non-slide players would consider the SR. it's a great pedal but it's super-specific, if that makes sense. For general playing it's too much, unless you're running a very clean amp with single coils. 

Couldn't disagree with this more. It works perfectly well for non-slide applications.

I think I just prefer the sound of an optical pedal for general playing. I'm not sure if I was using a Les Paul and a Deluxe I'd be able to use the SR for straight playing, whereas something like the Maxon Optical I could probably make a better fit for me.

StuartMac290

Jonathanthomas83 said:

JDE said:

To be honest (name's on the tin), I'm not sure why non-slide players would consider the SR. it's a great pedal but it's super-specific, if that makes sense. For general playing it's too much, unless you're running a very clean amp with single coils. 

Couldn't disagree with this more. It works perfectly well for non-slide applications.

The differences between it and the Cali are negligible, sound-wise. Though the second stage is a huge bonus, IMO. It's the controls that will make the difference.

Precisely, if you don't want the second compression stage you just turn it down! 80% of the time I don't use it. 

Jonathanthomas83

JDE said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

JDE said:

To be honest (name's on the tin), I'm not sure why non-slide players would consider the SR. it's a great pedal but it's super-specific, if that makes sense. For general playing it's too much, unless you're running a very clean amp with single coils. 

Couldn't disagree with this more. It works perfectly well for non-slide applications.

I think I just prefer the sound of an optical pedal for general playing. I'm not sure if I was using a Les Paul and a Deluxe I'd be able to use the SR for straight playing, whereas something like the Maxon Optical I could probably make a better fit for me.

Fair enough, mate.

CustomPedalBoards

well guys for me, i have the SRCD on 1 of my boards as i like the 2in1 feature. the cali sounds the same to me (there supposed to be both the same comp!) but has more tweekability. i decided on the SR over the cali, because i dont need to mess with the attack/release thing and like to be able to dial in a 2nd stage of comp instead. both though are amazing sounding comps so you wont be disappointed. just go for the 1 you like the features of.

ToneControl

CustomPedalBoards said:

well guys for me, i have the SRCD on 1 of my boards as i like the 2in1 feature. the cali sounds the same to me (there supposed to be both the same comp!) but has more tweekability. i decided on the SR over the cali, because i dont need to mess with the attack/release thing and like to be able to dial in a 2nd stage of comp instead. both though are amazing sounding comps so you wont be disappointed. just go for the 1 you like the features of.

I agree for electrics

For my acoustic-playing mate, I think the SR would have too much gain, and the Cali76 has those extra tweaks available

StuartMac290

Not sure I understand - the SRCD doesn't have any more gain than the Compact Deluxe?

ToneControl

StuartMac290 said:

Not sure I understand - the SRCD doesn't have any more gain than the Compact Deluxe?

it has chained compressors, so should have more gain, I thought that was the whole point?

StuartMac290

But you can just switch one off completely and then it sounds exactly the same as the Compact Deluxe. That's the point!

Jonathanthomas83

@StuartMac290 is spot on, you don't need to use the second stage if you don't want to. A number of us have said this now, they're exactly the same. SR has a second stage to use or not to use. The Cali has tweakier controls. 

ToneControl

Jonathanthomas83 said:

@StuartMac290 is spot on, you don't need to use the second stage if you don't want to. A number of us have said this now, they're exactly the same. SR has a second stage to use or not to use. The Cali has tweakier controls. 

not sure why you think I am disagreeing

as I understand
SR = 2 x Cali without the extra 2 controls
SR minus the second stage = Cal without the extra 2 controls

i.e. SR has more gain with both channels on,
Cali has more tweakability