Pedal for Stonesy/Petty rhythm crunch

Blueingreen

I've always been a pedals minimalist, getting by for years using the amp for dirt/reverb and a Boss chorus pedal to add a bit of character for rhythm.  I'm looking to expand my sound palette a bit as well as have a set up that I can use with clean amps (Rivera/ZT Club).  Also to make some inroads into my ignorance about effects.

I have a Line 6 M9 that I intend to use in conjunction with a couple of dirt pedals, an Xotic BB Preamp and a.n.other.  The second pedal to deliver rhythm crunch and hopefully stack well with the BB and be compatible with my amps. 

I'm interested in some of the Fender in a pedal options like the Tech 21 Blonde, Les Luis and Caitlinbread F5, thinking they could add some Fendery goodness to the Club in particular.  But I'm coming at this without much knowledge and could be persuaded that there are better solutions.

Any thoughts gratefully received.

monquixote

The pedals you suggested are all probably good choices. 

A personal favorite of mine for Tweedy sounds is the Liquid Sunshine. 

If you like Xotic you might also try the AC Boost.

It might also be worth trying the humble Tube Screamer or derivatives thereof. 

hotpickups

Lazy J cruiser if you like your tone/sound from amp. Expensive though

Blueingreen

I believe the Xotic Preamp is basically a modified Tube Screamer, so I was thinking possibly something with a different flavour?

Swapping out amps is maybe a medium-term option but not something I'm looking to do right now.  If/when I do portability will be a huge factor.

NPP

I have an F5 clone which does what you want, so the real thing would work at least as well I suppose

monquixote

Blueingreen said:

I believe the Xotic Preamp is basically a modified Tube Screamer, so I was thinking possibly something with a different flavour?

I wouldn't let that put you off. 

There are plenty of pedals that are based on a TS that sound nothing like one. 

not_the_dj

I've got both the Les Luis and the Catalinbread Formula 5F6, both are great. The 5F6 is suspose more versitle as you have full eq, but the Les Luis is just spot on out of the box for the sounds you're after.

Gassage

The humble Boss BD2 is fab at this.

Aidanspaghetti

+1 on the Les Lius.... Great for that kinda stuff

John_P

I'd agree with the suggestions for a Liquid Sunshine or Lazy J cruiser - both are on my list to grab (again)

noisepolluter

monquixote said:

The pedals you suggested are all probably good choices. 

A personal favorite of mine for Tweedy sounds is the Liquid Sunshine. 

If you like Xotic you might also try the AC Boost.

It might also be worth trying the humble Tube Screamer or derivatives thereof. 

Blueingreen said:

I believe the Xotic Preamp is basically a modified Tube Screamer, so I was thinking possibly something with a different flavour?

I'd say the Liquid Sunshine would be a great choice. It's got a really nice balance of warmth and grit. 

The Xotic is really 'hi-fi' -  you can literally dial it in so that if you play softly you can barely tell it's switched on because the clean sound comes through pretty much perfectly, then the crunch jumps back out when you dig in. All very impressive in demos, but how important is that really? When I think about that sort of sound, I tend to associate it with recent blues-rock stuff like Govt Mule and Joe Bonamassa. Which is all very well but I just find the graunchy old classic stuff tends to float my boat more, and that's more the sort of feel that the Liquid Sunshine has - it just sounds *right* - you pretty much set the internal treble/bass switches to match your amp, dial it in once, and you're done.

alalalkasar

Is this the kind of place where you can bring up the joyo clones of the tech21 stuff?
Sound pretty darned good and cost the same as a round of beers.

EdGrip

Have a look at the Catalinbread SFT too - there are some Stones-ish demos using it. Counter-intuitive maybe, but worth a look.

vasselmeyer

If you don't care about names and want an insanely good value pedal which does just what you're looking for , try out the Joyo AC Tone. I have one on my poard for exactly the Petty/Stones edge-of-breakup tone you describe.

hywelg

Menatone Top Boost in a Can. Great pedal.

EricTheWeary

Oh, the Toadworks L'il Leo and Leo Jr. They don't make them anymore but they pop up cheapest on eBay. I still fancy a Catalinbread no 5 for that more Neil Young type thing.

Lixarto

BOSS FDR-1?

Blueingreen

Thanks for the input guys, some good advice here.

One thing I was thinking re the ZT Club - I vaguely recall someone saying they put a Tech 21 Blonde in the effects loop so that the pedal (if I understand this correctly) effectively become the pre-amp.  This appeals because the club is a great, loud, clean, portable amp but not the most characterful. Again if I've got this right the Joyo clones wouldn't work for that because you can't switch off the speaker sim.

Welcome any thoughts on whether this might work........

Kebabkid

The Way Huge Pork Loin is also another goody and it's very zingy and transparent. The Liquid Sunshine III is damn good too and has a touch more gain. Surprisingly, the Fulltone OCD with the gain turned down very low works too.

monquixote

Blueingreen;175613" said:

Thanks for the input guys, some good advice here.

One thing I was thinking re the ZT Club - I vaguely recall someone saying they put a Tech 21 Blonde in the effects loop so that the pedal (if I understand this correctly) effectively become the pre-amp.  This appeals because the club is a great, loud, clean, portable amp but not the most characterful. Again if I've got this right the Joyo clones wouldn't work for that because you can't switch off the speaker sim.

Welcome any thoughts on whether this might work........

You may want to try one of the amt pedals with two channels

midiglitch

Another +1 for the liquid sunshine. It was my very first thought when I read your description of what you're after