Marshall Class 5 Combo - Better clean tone - What to do??

KiniooKinioo Frets: 7
edited November 3 in Live
Afternoon,

I do have Marshall Class 5 - absolutelly love it when it comes to pure r'n'r, however (as mentioned in my other discussion) we started to play different types of music...
Few (literally few) of them require some open chord strumming plus some simple arpeggios here and there etc. 
Now, clean sound on Marshall Class 5 isn't the greatest (I didn't buy it for that purpose, but...it is what it is)
(I play PRS SE Tremonti with Oli City Humbackers)
How I can improve my clean sound ?
At the moment its not that bad but it sounds flat (if you know what I mean) and adding some depth 

Im new into pedals, so 
Would a chorus pedal* or a reverb pedal* do any good here (dont have any of them at the moment) ??

*don't want to spend fortune on it - would any pedal form Tone City range be good here or maybe any other cheaper (but still good) pedals out there ??

Thank you again chaps!
C.
   
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26303
    Sorry, but there is no way to improve the clean sound of a Class 5 significantly without buying a new amp. The gain structure is simply all wrong to get any kind of headroom or clarity out of it.

    The only possible way around it would be to use a much larger, more efficient cabinet with very scooped-sounding speakers to offset the inherent sound of the amp, and at that point you'd probably still be able to achieve more by spending the same amount on a different amp.

    Reverb or chorus would almost certainly make things worse since there's no FX loop and the pedals would be in front of the amp.
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  • KiniooKinioo Frets: 7
    ICBM said:
    Sorry, but there is no way to improve the clean sound of a Class 5 significantly without buying a new amp. The gain structure is simply all wrong to get any kind of headroom or clarity out of it.

    The only possible way around it would be to use a much larger, more efficient cabinet with very scooped-sounding speakers to offset the inherent sound of the amp, and at that point you'd probably still be able to achieve more by spending the same amount on a different amp.

    Reverb or chorus would almost certainly make things worse since there's no FX loop and the pedals would be in front of the amp.
    ok, thanks
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  • JMP220478JMP220478 Frets: 103
    How hot are your pickups ? 

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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 5964
    https://youtu.be/HsXklrgUGbI

    Might be some ideas in here, especially from about 21:00 where he uses an overdrive pedal to cut the gain ( he brings some distortion back in from the pedal but you wouldn’t want to do that, although a tone knob might help you dial in the tone you are looking for). Quick google on clean sounds on the C5 suggests it’s a common issue but by the time you’ve changed the valves and the speaker you’ll have spent a lot of money and lost the sound you did like. Probably think about buying something with more clean headroom like a used Peavey Bandit or some of the Line 6 models. Wouldn’t really be that much more expensive than a decent pedal  and a two amp set up is sexy. 
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  • KiniooKinioo Frets: 7
    JMP220478 said:
    How hot are your pickups ? 

    Well, it depends how 'hot' is 'hot' to you....

    They are
    Bridge: Nightfighter A4 (nickel cover)
    Neck: Forces Sweetheart (nickel cover)

    NEck is mor bassy, with nice warm bottom end;
    Bridge has more gain but not too mad;

    Chris
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 5449
    You can give an impression of a clean tone with a scooped but bright, jangly tone from a graphic EQ pedal, even on quite a dirty amp.

    You can fake a sort of "strummy" tone with pretty well any amp unless it's running absolutely flat out with gain, and even then it's surprising what you can do with a graphic and the guitar volume rolled back. 

    It sounds like you're not after clinical authenticity here, just a way of getting through a few numbers with your existing amp. 
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  • KiniooKinioo Frets: 7
    p90fool said:
    You can give an impression of a clean tone with a scooped but bright, jangly tone from a graphic EQ pedal, even on quite a dirty amp.

    You can fake a sort of "strummy" tone with pretty well any amp unless it's running absolutely flat out with gain, and even then it's surprising what you can do with a graphic and the guitar volume rolled back. 

    It sounds like you're not after clinical authenticity here, just a way of getting through a few numbers with your existing amp. 
    Fair said.
    Thanks,
    C. 
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