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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7267
    randella said:
    Incidentally @Bucket - this wasn't a stab at you.  I don't know how you've mustered the energy.
    Nor me mate. I guess it's the other side of the same coin - I also can't just "leave" a debate.

    I agree with every word of yours and @clarky 's posts up there ^.
    - "And I told him to stuff it! But he said it had been dead too long...""
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  • DopesickDopesick Frets: 913
    I just have to laugh that a thread containing so much debate, disagreement, anger, frustration, resentment, pomposity and overall self-righteousness is called...'young player having fun'.

    Talk about false advertising.

    PS He's rubbish, I can do better.

    PS Maybe. A bit.
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 2694
    edited December 2017
    pia98jf said:
    When I’ve been backed into a corner yes.
    I can't talk for anyone else of course.. but I very much hope that you don't feel that I backed you into a corner..
    whilst I agree with some of what you said, I don't agree with all of it and so tried to explain why

    just my opinion...
    it's ok to have a different points of view and debate them..
    music is my job and my life... something I'm very passionate about...
    but it's not life or death stuff.. and certainly not important enough for folks to fall out over..
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • There’s a video of Albert King sitting with Albert Collins giving his take on the blues. In it he says you don’t have to be old to play the blues, you can be young, old, black, white....everybody’s got the blues, even kids, they just don’t know what to call it yet.

     I like the young lad’s phrasing and enjoyment and I’m enthused that in the current world of synth pop and auto tune there’s evidence of a younger generation being drawn to guitars, clearly loving it and wanting to spend time on it. If it means anything to anyone else is irrelevant because he’s playing a note as if it means something to him.

    the last thing I would want is for the lad to read a thread like this and just become disheartened or disengaged from something he clearly enjoys and is good at. All power to him.
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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7267
    the last thing I would want is for the lad to read a thread like this and just become disheartened or disengaged from something he clearly enjoys and is good at. All power to him.
    Indeed.

    Toby, if you're reading this - ignore these boring, miserable old fuckers and keep doing what you're doing, because you're great.
    - "And I told him to stuff it! But he said it had been dead too long...""
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  • Bucket said:
    the last thing I would want is for the lad to read a thread like this and just become disheartened or disengaged from something he clearly enjoys and is good at. All power to him.
    Indeed.

    Toby, if you're reading this - ignore these boring, miserable old fuckers and keep doing what you're doing, because you're great.
    I whole heartedly agree, 8 pages of vitriol, very poor. Hopefully, the kid has never heard of Fretboard and won't need counselling after reading some of this stuff.
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  • merlinmerlin Frets: 1022
    edited December 2017

    the last thing I would want is for the lad to read a thread like this and just become disheartened or disengaged from something he clearly enjoys and is good at. All power to him.
    There's a chance that he wouldn't. My guess, (although I have no real clue, so see this as a projection if you like) is that he'd interpret it something posted by a bunch of angry and cynical old guys, (unlike the guys he gets a chance to play with) and move swiftly on and spark up a fag behind the bike sheds....
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  • BRISTOL86BRISTOL86 Frets: 1365
    Bucket said:
    the last thing I would want is for the lad to read a thread like this and just become disheartened or disengaged from something he clearly enjoys and is good at. All power to him.
    Indeed.

    Toby, if you're reading this - ignore these boring, miserable old fuckers and keep doing what you're doing, because you're great.
    I whole heartedly agree, 8 pages of vitriol, very poor. Hopefully, the kid has never heard of Fretboard and won't need counselling after reading some of this stuff.
    Pffft, why should be any different to the rest of us? ;) 
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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7267
    BRISTOL86 said:
    Now that’s authentic. 
    I'm off to write a song. I shall call it "Arguing With a Total Fucking Cunt on the Internet Blues"
    - "And I told him to stuff it! But he said it had been dead too long...""
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  • KalimnaKalimna Frets: 372
    What a silly little man he is. Lets just get on with our own lives and thoughts, gentlemen, and not raise our own blood pressure in response.

    Still a great video in OP.

    Adam
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3200
    edited December 2017
    Off to BCD
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

    Feedback
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 13531
    edited December 2017
    Jalapeno said:
    Off to BCD
    Actually, thread closed too.

    I'll go through it later and delete the complete crap, which - on a quick look - might just mean deleting most posts by one or two people.

    And then it can go back to the appropriate section.


    [edit]
    Thread tidied up.  Which, after reading the first few pages, compromised mainly of deleting the posts of one individual and those who quoted the posts having risen to the bait.  There was little point/value in separating out the insults into a separate thread-of-insults, so they just got deleted.

    Gents - you can't reason with a troll.
    ;)
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 13531
    Thread re-opened and return to chat, music, having been cleaned up.

    Any further trolling or insulting posts will be deleted, and the poster likely to lose the ability to post for a while.
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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7267
    edited December 2017
    TTony said:
    [edit]
    Thread tidied up.  Which, after reading the first few pages, compromised mainly of deleting the posts of one individual and those who quoted the posts having risen to the bait.  There was little point/value in separating out the insults into a separate thread-of-insults, so they just got deleted.
    Careful.

    ;)
    - "And I told him to stuff it! But he said it had been dead too long...""
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  • RabsRabs Frets: 733
    edited December 2017

    Yeah this all went a bit bonkers didn't it...  I started this cos I saw a young player who not only is REALLY good but also seemed to be enjoying himself along with it..

    None of us know his personal circumstances ..  and really its none of our business.. I just hoped people would enjoy the vid just for what it was. As someone else mentioned, I hope Toby never sees this nonsense..

    BUT I guess if you are looking for the limelight that's what you get these days with social media and should be expected to some degree. Part of being famous in the internet age.

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  • BarneyBarney Frets: 329
    Iv been watching him for a while on Facebook..I think he's a good player ..but I hope it dosnt all go to his head and he progresses as a guitarist otherwise when he gets to his late teens he will just sound like any other decent blues guitarist ...but good luck to him ..I hope he dosnt burn out and fade away because is age does play a big part in his popularity ..
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 3971
    Dust settled?  I think I'll go back to page 1....

    It's good to see a young kid playing well - way better than I ever ever will - and enjoying himself, although I must say I find all his gurning a bit cringey to watch... but that's my problem. 

    I think it's true that unless he develops something really special as he gets older he'll become just one of many good young guitarists playing similar stuff, and perhaps he'll fade into anonymity - but even if he does, he'll have had his 15 minutes and more, not everyone gets that much.  Good luck to him.
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  • KalimnaKalimna Frets: 372
    Echo'd above post. But then, gurning never hit Gary Moore, did it?
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  • randellarandella Frets: 1484
    Since this one's back on track I should say sorry to @tampaxboo whose post I piled into for a cheap laugh and came off a bit aggressive really. Apologies for that. 
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  • Arktik83Arktik83 Frets: 257
    I have to admit, I did visit this thread throughout the week with popcorn in hand.  Good to see it's simmered down now, kids obviously a good egg, hope he does well through his endeavours.
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 2694
    being that good at that age, there's no reason why he shouldn't turn into a Guthrie or Dave K
    and like them have a very good career as a session player
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • Good to see any child enjoying music.

    If you look at the link to the local paper article, Toby Lee doesn't have it all on a plate you know...


    ... he's ginger.  Poor wee bugger.  Must be some blues mileage in being ginger.


    Anyway, looking at his fantastic guitar collection, what I want to now is:

    Has he been through his EVH phase or is that Firebird getting butchered and a Jackson Pollack paint job?

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  • BarneyBarney Frets: 329
    Thought I would just throw this one into the works ...another great player and probably a lot more advanced for his age ...this is a few years old now 

     
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 2694
    Barney said:
    Thought I would just throw this one into the works ...another great player and probably a lot more advanced for his age ...this is a few years old now 

     
    phenomenal
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 2694
    and this very young monster player... on a big stage...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_uLEIphzFA

    grows up to be a an even bigger monster player
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o63YZk3d26Y
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • Someone mentioned Thomas McRocklin before, which is a decent enough comparison.
    Thomas McRocklin!... little Tommy M... whatever happened to him?... just to refresh your memories here is is playing along side Slash!.

    http://a68.tinypic.com/vrg60m.jpg
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  • DLM said:
    he's got back into playing more now and has a FB page. Some of it's really interesting - ie showing all the old guitars from when he was doing stuff with Vai. Also a really good player. 

    https://www.facebook.com/mcrocklin/

    This thread is weird. Young child playing guitar really well? That's awesome. I like seeing people who are good at things!
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  • Great playing from this kid, pretty nice tone too.  

    I agree about the mentions of pushy parents.  I recently saw a video on YT of a parent who trained his child on piano from when he was a baby and the kid can identify complex chords by ear and has perfect pitch.  A great skill to have, but it's like the parent is putting the child on show, like a party trick.  
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 3971
    Someone mentioned Thomas McRocklin before, which is a decent enough comparison.
    Thomas McRocklin!... little Tommy M... whatever happened to him?... just to refresh your memories here is is playing along side Slash!.

    http://a68.tinypic.com/vrg60m.jpg
    Is that Little and Large?  Little Tommy must have realised his career had peaked at that point, it was downhill all the way from then on.
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