Selling to someone who wants to use standard PayPal

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richhrichh Frets: 224
Not here, but somebody I don't know want to buy an item and says as they don't have the cash now, can they pay using PayPal 'Goods & Services'.  I'm wary of this, in case he then made a claim in some way, which is the main reason I won't use eBay.  Buy he says:

"Where buyer protection is concerned were I to collect the unit it removes any buyer protection anyway"

Does anybody have any idea if this is correct - if in any doubt, I'll just wait for somebody who can pay in cash!

Thanks.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26803
    No - if you allow him to pay by Paypal and collect, it removes any *seller* protection, because you can't prove you've sent it.

    The fact that he claims the opposite makes me even more suspicious. OK, he may simply be wrong...
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • xpia98jfxpia98jf Frets: 306
    If he’s happy not to have buyer protection then why does he want to use G&S? Say you’ll accept PayPal only if he pays by PPG.
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  • BRISTOL86BRISTOL86 Frets: 861
    Nope don’t do it. 
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  • richhrichh Frets: 224
    Thanks guys, that is really helpful!

    FYI, I'm trying selling a few bits on Gumtree, any the responses are really bizarre!  I'd used Gumtree years ago, but it seems to have changed, and perhaps not for the best.

    Anyway, I don't need the money, so in borderline cases I'd rather not risk getting involved with anybody who doesn't seem genuine.
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 1986
    He may be using standard so he can buy with a credit card, avoid anyway.
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 8633
    Personally I'd only do cash on collection, and get them to sign something to say that it's sold as seen and they have checked it.
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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 4387
    It amazes me how some ppl seemingly wanting to buy something try to make the prospect of successfully buying said item remote by dictating terms. If I am serious about something I want I am usually more concerned that I might miss out on the deal unless I conclude on it as quickly as possible. Thus it must show their real intent. 
    <Vintage BOSS Upgrades>
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  • This sort of thing stresses me out.  Oh for the days of the freeads, car parks and used notes 
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  • BRISTOL86BRISTOL86 Frets: 861
    This sort of thing stresses me out.  Oh for the days of the freeads, car parks and used notes 
    You sure that was just for the guitars? ;) 
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  • richhrichh Frets: 224
    Thanks again for the advice, and I'll put the item up for sale here.  A little bit specialist, but who knows.  It is a guitar synth system from Axon, and I recently sold my only guitar with synth access to one of the guys here, so without that, the Axon is about as useful to me as a chocolate tea pot.
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  • Hold on, he doesn't have the cash but can use paypal? ... and even if he has a paypal balance he can withdraw it to his account and then turn it into cash
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  • richhrichh Frets: 224
    edited December 7
    Yes, he's saying this gives him a month to pay the bill.  I neither know nor care if that is possible, but for a luxury item like that, if I didn't have the cash I just wouldn't buy it.  I'm now the wrong side of 50 and can afford to indulge my whims, but when I didn't have the cash I gigged loads with a basic guitar, amp and a few Boss pedals, and I wouldn't have gone into debt to finance stuff like this myself.
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 1703
    Perhaps he wants to take advantage of PayPal credit.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26803
    As pia98jf said, if he just needs to be able to do it on credit and doesn't think he's protected anyway, just ask him for Paypal Gift. His reaction to that will be telling.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 1703
    ICBM said:
    As pia98jf said, if he just needs to be able to do it on credit and doesn't think he's protected anyway, just ask him for Paypal Gift. His reaction to that will be telling.
    Can you do Gift payments using credit? I doubt it.
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  • BRISTOL86BRISTOL86 Frets: 861
    edited December 7
    JezWynd said:
    ICBM said:
    As pia98jf said, if he just needs to be able to do it on credit and doesn't think he's protected anyway, just ask him for Paypal Gift. His reaction to that will be telling.
    Can you do Gift payments using credit? I doubt it.
    EDIT - misinformed!!
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  • This sort of thing stresses me out.  Oh for the days of the freeads, car parks and used notes 

    Yep this, Gumtree is really bizarre now, used to be sort of alright, FridayAd needs to stage a comeback.
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  • SeshSesh Frets: 494
    If you're not desperate to sell tell him you'll see him in month when he can bring cash.
    Can't sing, can't dance, can handle a guitar a little.
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  • As others have said. PPG only takes from a Debit Card, or a DD to you account. Goods and Services, can be charged to Credit Card - I use PayPal a lot for normal shops, especially this time of year when I don't want to be tapping my card details in lots of sites. All of it goes to my CC so I get the points too, he's just doing the same.

    If he's local, and you are not desperate to see. Just say he can pick up in a months time and use cash or PPG - therefore everyones hoppy, he gets his stuff, you don't need to worry. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26803
    Ah, I see. I don’t usually use PayPal to buy things privately unless I have money in it anyway (self-imposed spending restriction ;) ) so I had never noticed there was a difference.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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