Wudtone/Osmo to finish a neck?

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lovestrat74lovestrat74 Frets: 82
edited January 12 in Making & Modding
Hi anyone used wudtone to finish a neck before?

I have a bare tele neck that i would like to give an aged/vintage tint. It appears to me to be an easier solution compared to nitro spray.

 PROS? CONS? Any tips welcome. 
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  • MegiiMegii Frets: 840
    I used it (actually just the Wudtone clear basecoat stuff left over from finishing the guitar body, no tint) to finish a neck once, and it did come out nicely. Just sanded the neck lightly to 600 grit, and then a few very thin coats, and buffed using a bit of copy paper and elbow grease.



    Although I think if was to do a similar job in the future, I'd probably use Tru Oil instead. But it certainly worked well enough. :)

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  • GizmoGizmo Frets: 312
    Id buy one of these Osmo Sachet/testers in Honey and save yourself £30

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/OSMO-Polyx-Tints-Sachet-Honey/dp/B00TKB2MSI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1513195612&sr=8-3&keywords=osmo+oil

    the 5ml in that would be more than enough for a neck and the Osmo stuff gives a really nice gloss but non sticky feel,ive used it on the past 4-5 builds/rebuilds ive done and i wouldn't use anything else now


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  • Megii said:
     I'd probably use Tru Oil instead. But it certainly worked well enough. :)

    I've got try oil but I need something to tint the neck to give it that vintage look
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  • Gizmo said:
    Id buy one of these Osmo Sachet/testers in Honey and save yourself £30

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/OSMO-Polyx-Tints-Sachet-Honey/dp/B00TKB2MSI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1513195612&sr=8-3&keywords=osmo+oil

    the 5ml in that would be more than enough for a neck and the Osmo stuff gives a really nice gloss but non sticky feel,ive used it on the past 4-5 builds/rebuilds ive done and i wouldn't use anything else now


    Sounds very interesting @Gizmo !
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  • GizmoGizmo Frets: 312
    Id say grab one of the honey and one of the amber and do a test on the heel area that would be hidden in the cavity to see which you like,if it doesn't work for you just rub it down and you've only lost £2.80 ;)
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  • Gizmo said:
    Id say grab one of the honey and one of the amber and do a test on the heel area that would be hidden in the cavity to see which you like,if it doesn't work for you just rub it down and you've only lost £2.80 ;)
    2 sachets ordered. I'll let you know how it goes  ;)
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3118
    Megii said:


    Although I think if was to do a similar job in the future, I'd probably use Tru Oil instead. But it certainly worked well enough. :)

    This. With or without a tint underneath.
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

    Feedback
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  • I did a neck with the vintage tinted Wudtone kit and it works well, but I still have a load left over which will now surely dry up and finish in the bin. Bearing in mind it's basically Osmo, do as Gizmo says and get a couple of those sachets and you'll be laughing.
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  • t1000t1000 Frets: 57
    I got the vintage aged kit from wudtone and was dissapointed with the colouring I was about to order an amber kit from them then read this thread just ordered the Osmo sachet. Thanks Gizmo. Do you need to topcoat the Osmo? 
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 1390
    Osmo normally dries within 24 hours, and hardens within a days or so.
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  • Gizmo said:
    Id buy one of these Osmo Sachet/testers in Honey and save yourself £30

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/OSMO-Polyx-Tints-Sachet-Honey/dp/B00TKB2MSI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1513195612&sr=8-3&keywords=osmo+oil

    the 5ml in that would be more than enough for a neck and the Osmo stuff gives a really nice gloss but non sticky feel,ive used it on the past 4-5 builds/rebuilds ive done and i wouldn't use anything else now


    First trial with the honey Osmo. I think this is 4 applications - I'm not actually sure it's taking on any more colour with each coat. Raw neck for comparison. (There are 2 bright spotlights shining on the table, so the centre of the neck isn't actually that light)
    It's not bad - wish it was a little darker. Feels great when dry, even without buffing yet.

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  • Gizmo said:
    Id buy one of these Osmo Sachet/testers in Honey and save yourself £30

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/OSMO-Polyx-Tints-Sachet-Honey/dp/B00TKB2MSI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1513195612&sr=8-3&keywords=osmo+oil

    the 5ml in that would be more than enough for a neck and the Osmo stuff gives a really nice gloss but non sticky feel,ive used it on the past 4-5 builds/rebuilds ive done and i wouldn't use anything else now


    First trial with the honey Osmo. I think this is 4 applications - I'm not actually sure it's taking on any more colour with each coat. Raw neck for comparison. (There are 2 bright spotlights shining on the table, so the centre of the neck isn't actually that light)
    It's not bad - wish it was a little darker. Feels great when dry, even without buffing yet.

    That looks great :)
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  • aord43aord43 Frets: 268
    How much does one sachet cover?  5ml seems a very small amount.
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  • I used a vintage amber, can't remember the exact description. It was way to orange. Sanded it all off and sprayed a light brown from Rothko & frost, which was perfect as that has a bit of amber in it. I'd did a thread on a blackguard build I did with pictures if you're interested.
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  • GizmoGizmo Frets: 312
    Thanks for the report back @gavin_axecaster

    The honey defo has a slight tint,this is the osmo top oil on my back to raw maple HM strat neck x2 coats



    I find the Osmo Top oil to be somewhere between polyX and normal tru oil finish,

    @aord43 5 ml of oil should give you about x3 light coats on a standard neck,Id suggest wrapping your application pad/cloth in clingfilm between coats so it wont cure & you don't waste any repriming your pad,sure its not economical to buy these sample sachet's if you have a lot to do but for a single neck/test its better than paying £20-30 and having a few 100ml's left sitting in a bottle.
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  • You can add a little oil based varnish which will darken it a bit and give a slightly glossier finish if it gloss varnish if you are working with satchels probably not but mixing up 10-15% seemed to work well still goes on with applicator
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  • Still waiting for my sachets but once I have finished the neck I'll let you all know how it went 
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  • Does the Osmo stuff have a similar odour/'amount' of odour to Wudtone?
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  • Gizmo said:
    Thanks for the report back @gavin_axecaster

    The honey defo has a slight tint,this is the osmo top oil on my back to raw maple HM strat neck x2 coats



    I find the Osmo Top oil to be somewhere between polyX and normal tru oil finish,

    @aord43 5 ml of oil should give you about x3 light coats on a standard neck,Id suggest wrapping your application pad/cloth in clingfilm between coats so it wont cure & you don't waste any repriming your pad,sure its not economical to buy these sample sachet's if you have a lot to do but for a single neck/test its better than paying £20-30 and having a few 100ml's left sitting in a bottle.
    Looks good, almost has a roasted look about it!
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  • lovestrat74lovestrat74 Frets: 82
    edited January 12
    Finally got round to this and I am really pleased with the finish - although a bit hard to capture on phone camera.  I used honey first then applied the amber as the honey wasn't quite dark enough.  Thanks for the tip @Gizmo !!




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  • RolandRoland Frets: 1390
    Should this thread be retitled “Osmo to refinish neck”?
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  • aord43aord43 Frets: 268
    Very nice.  I need to do my fretboard, not the back and sides.  I will try it soon.
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  • Roland said:
    Should this thread be retitled “Osmo to refinish neck”?
    Duly noted and obliged
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  • Andyjr1515Andyjr1515 Frets: 1561
    Looks nice :)
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  • GSPBASSESGSPBASSES Frets: 916
     I think most people know my views on Wudtone finishes, won't bore you with the details again except to say it's very hit and miss. The clear and colours like dairy blonde can work really well. Someone on the forum claims that Wudtone is Osmo -based.
    With this in mind, I've ordered some Osmo and tints from Axminster tools, they seem to have the best prices. I also believe you can tint Osmo with artists oil paint. So while I'm not fit enough to be in the workshop for a while I can at least experiments with this. 
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 1390
    I’ve used Oil paint pigments on children’s toys. The finish is nearly opaque. 



    On guitars I prefer to see the wood grain. For that I want to try spirit dye.
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  • GSPBASSESGSPBASSES Frets: 916
    Roland said:
    I’ve used Oil paint pigments on children’s toys. The finish is nearly opaque. 



    On guitars I prefer to see the wood grain. For that I want to try spirit dye.
    Did you use the oil paint directly onto the wood full strength? Only I was intending to use a small amount of oil paint mixed in with the Osmo so it becomes a tint as  opposed  to a solid colour. It would be interesting to know if anyone has use this method of tinting Osmo.
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 1390
    For the toys I wanted a solid colour, but in a thin layer that wouldn’t chip or flake off. I used a painter’s approach, squeezed a small amount of oil paint on to a suitable surface, and then mixed in sufficient Osmo to get the consistency I wanted. The lighter colours had a second coat to get the desired colour density, and cover deficiencies in the plywood.

    Throughout I was wondering whether I could use oil paint pigment to colour Osmo for a guitar body. I tried dilute (low pigment) mixes on scrap wood. None of them gave the translucence that come from alcohol based stain. Oil paints are designed to be opaque, and I was hoping for transparency in small quantities. Maybe my technique was wrong, but I concluded was that it wouldn’t suit my purposes. 

    Now or if I were decorating Clapton’s Fool ...
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  • GizmoGizmo Frets: 312
    Finally got round to this and I am really pleased with the finish - although a bit hard to capture on phone camera.  I used honey first then applied the amber as the honey wasn't quite dark enough.  Thanks for the tip @Gizmo !!

    Wow look's great :) thanks for the update really glad your happy with the result and don't have 95% of a bottle of finish left ;)

    Did you get any pics of it with just the honey pass ?

    Sorry about the delay in replying but ive been all kinds of ill over the new year,went to the docs with a chest infection came home with Oz flu....
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  • Gizmo said:
    Finally got round to this and I am really pleased with the finish - although a bit hard to capture on phone camera.  I used honey first then applied the amber as the honey wasn't quite dark enough.  Thanks for the tip @Gizmo !!

    Wow look's great :) thanks for the update really glad your happy with the result and don't have 95% of a bottle of finish left ;)

    Did you get any pics of it with just the honey pass ?

    Sorry about the delay in replying but ive been all kinds of ill over the new year,went to the docs with a chest infection came home with Oz flu....
    Ah sh#t that's not good! 

    No i didnt take pics of the honey, didn't even register. To be fair there was not much difference but just enough to tip it over to a more richer colour I was hoping for. 

    They did send - by mistake - a silver and a black sachet as well. Was thinking of using one of them on the fret board to make it look worn but them I thought of the effort of reversing it If it looked naff and didn't bother!
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