Sigma 000R-28V - Any Good ? Any Alternatives ?

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WazmeisterWazmeister Frets: 3325
edited December 2017 in Acoustics
Ok, so I went into Guitar Guitar today in Brum, mainly to try the Yamaha SLGs. 

A guy was playing a 'Martin' and I said to him, "mate that sounds really nice..." Anyway, I had limited time and was just having a mooch around when I thought "I'll have a play on that Martin he was playing..."

Turns out, it was this Sigma 000R-28V, and NOT a Martin and... I really really liked it...

Now, bear in mind, Ive just sold a £4k Collings OM1, which was beautiful but a bit 'stiff' for me if that makes sense ? 

I just really liked this Sigma, and it had a (cheapish I guess) pick up system built into it, which I missed having, and the action was bob on (unlike the Collings...)

So, my question is... any thoughts ?

I no longer wish to own a dear one. Something instead, I can leave lying around, dink and play when I need to.

By the way, bob on service from Guitar Guitar (Dave ?)




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  • I haven’t played that specific model - but I have played quite a few Sigmas. Ridiculously good for the money....
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  • Ok, so I went into Guitar Guitar today in Brum, mainly to try the Yamaha SLGs. 

    A guy was playing a 'Martin' and I said to him, "mate that sounds really nice..." Anyway, I had limited time and was just having a mooch around when I thought "I'll have a play on that Martin he was playing..."

    Turns out, it was this Sigma 000R-28V, and NOT a Martin and... I really really liked it...

    Now, bear in mind, Ive just sold a £4k Collings OM1, which was beautiful but a bit 'stiff' for me if that makes sense ? 

    I just really liked this Sigma, and it had a (cheapish I guess) pick up system built into it, which I missed having, and the action was bob on (unlike the Collings...)

    So, my question is... any thoughts ?

    I no longer wish to own a dear one. Something instead, I can leave lying around, dink and play when I need to.

    What were the specs of the Collings OM1 you sold?  I have a guitar which I have owned from new for around 2-3 years which only until recently sounded a bit on the stiff side of things before it improved, the guitar has a Adirondack spruce soundboard which I think was partly an issue. 

    I myself own a couple of very nice acoustics but I find I'm somewhat scared of keeping them in the stand, dinging the thin soundboard and so on and seem to play my cheapest guitar the most.  I enjoy playing it with the worry of f*cking it up. 
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  • rustneversleepsrustneversleeps Frets: 22
    edited December 2017
    I have a sigma 00028vs which is a 12 fret.Its one of my favourites,all solid woods.I played the Martin equivalent recently and there was not a lot in it considering the price difference.Even the grain of the wood is matched perfectly,and I am a Martin man.Obviously a keeper and I don’t work for them.If you 
    find a nice one they great value.
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  • @earwighoney - mine was a Collings Custom 0M1. Lovely guitar and the pick of many I played. It was just too tight/stiff imho, and like you, I didnt want to dink it.

    For £500, I might just buy that Sigma 
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  • pmgpmg Frets: 174
    edited December 2017
    I was thinking of getting one of the 000mr4’s in the coda blowout
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  • JasonJason Frets: 254
    I have one of those. It’s my leave it lying around guitar, it’s actually the 2nd one as my daughter knocked over the the first and snapped the neck. 

    I think they they are great, it records well, plays nice, the sound is a bit thin compared to my more expensive acoustics but then they cost a lot more.

    I dont think you can do much better for the price of them. 
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  • pmgpmg Frets: 174
    I was thinking of it for a “lying around” guitar
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  • KilgoreKilgore Frets: 446
    Sigma's are ridiculously good for the money.
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  • Went on a few shopping trips with a mate who wanted a cheap J45-ish guitar. Played several Sigmas... some Good-ish... some a bit meh... and one that was better than all the rest (he bought that one). So... I guess like all acoustics... they vary. If you've found one of the great ones - probably best to go for it.

    Does my mate's Sigma keep up with a good new Gibson Vintage spec J45? No... but the Sigma was about 1/6th the cost (and it's got a pickup... which the Gibson doesn't have)

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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 2780

    That Sigma isn't far short of the price of a Martin OOOX1AE.

    The Martin has an unfinished look (like the Sheeran guitars) and uses non-traditional materials, but is a very good sounding guitar.  Might be worth trying one.

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  • jellyrolljellyroll Frets: 1852
    As much as I hate it when my guitars get dinged, I still wouldn't swap them for cheaper ones just to avoid that pain. By definition, you're then buying a guitar you don't care about rather than one that inspires you....
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  • pmgpmg Frets: 174

    Went on a few shopping trips with a mate who wanted a cheap J45-ish guitar. Played several Sigmas... some Good-ish... some a bit meh... and one that was better than all the rest (he bought that one). So... I guess like all acoustics... they vary. If you've found one of the great ones - probably best to go for it.

    Does my mate's Sigma keep up with a good new Gibson Vintage spec J45? No... but the Sigma was about 1/6th the cost (and it's got a pickup... which the Gibson doesn't have)

    I’ve got a true vintage j45 and a 2016 vintage hummingbird so I know what you’re saying 
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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 244
    Sigma are not just good for the money, they are really good guitars. They are also cheap. 

    I had a DR28 which petty much played itself (useful, as I'm crap). Only sold it because I wanted a smaller body acoustic. 
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  • crunchman said:

    That Sigma isn't far short of the price of a Martin OOOX1AE.

    The Martin has an unfinished look (like the Sheeran guitars) and uses non-traditional materials, but is a very good sounding guitar.  Might be worth trying one.


    GuitarGuitar have some models on special offer... https://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/tag/Martin-Promotion


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  • GagarynGagaryn Frets: 994
    Plus 1 for Sigma. I had an old Sigma DR-41, think it was probably 80's - still said Martin on the headstock. It was great if a bit bling. Should never have sold it. :-(
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  • jellyrolljellyroll Frets: 1852
    Another reminder that it's the wizard, not the wand.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7M3R-V_SK4

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  • The only direct competition would be Recording King, but they were v hard to find in the UK last time I checked. 
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  • erky32erky32 Frets: 29
    I recently bought a Sigma 000MC 1STE.... brilliant, lowered the action restrung with John Pearse 11-50s, and I love it- very pick-up-able, pick or fingerstyle it is just great. Great guitar to throw over your shoulder and play out, either plugged or unplugged. I had just sold my Larrivee L-05 and was going to use the dosh to buy a "proper" replacement, ....I've spent a quarter of the money and am happier than the Larrivee days! I'm almost tempted to buy a more upmarket Sigma now, ....but really?- I dont need to because the current one suits me perfectly!
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  • Glad you got there in the end...........enjoy!
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  • Appreciate all the input folks... I'll be playing some over the next week hopefully :)
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  • I'll be interested to hear how you get on @Wazmeister I sold my guild a few years back and I'm in the market for a new acoustic this year. The GAD range are worth a look mine was the mahogany dreadnaught. I'm thinking I might go for something with a smaller body this time.

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  • Was also thinking of buying a smaller bodied picking guitar, but from what I hear the Sigmas have quite slim necks. I am looking for something with a bit of meat on - a more rounded profile.  Any ideas/thoughts?
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  • erky32erky32 Frets: 29
    Was also thinking of buying a smaller bodied picking guitar, but from what I hear the Sigmas have quite slim necks. I am looking for something with a bit of meat on - a more rounded profile.  Any ideas/thoughts?
    my 000MC-1STE has a very comfy body, fits under arm well & gives you lots of sonic feel, but the neck is certainly not meaty, like a soft-C shape, more Taylor-ish, I love it, so the body would work , but the neck maybe too slender for you?
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  • lovestrat74lovestrat74 Frets: 88
    edited January 17
    Thanks for the info @erky32 ;
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  • maw4neumaw4neu Frets: 161
    As much as I loved my Taylor 414 CE it had to go . . . The neck was quite a handful, plus my hands are suffering of late with arthritis ( growing up pains ) so it rarely left its case . . . I still have my Taylor GS Mini though . . . Its in the front room normally or the bedroom, and its the first thing I pick up when I get in from work and the last thing I strum before I go to bed . . . There's a lot to be said for a less expensive strummer :-) Ive looked at the Sigma 000R-28V and second hand they seem a bargain ! !  . . . Compared to a Martin 000 28 they are a steal . . 
    Id just like to point out that, despite all the video and DNA evidence, it genuinely wasnt me, your Honour  ! 
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  • TimmyOTimmyO Frets: 2636
    I'd be tempted to nab the one you played - as someone said above, guitars can be tricksy things - that one was good. Go get it. :-) 
    "Congratulations on being officially the most right anyone has ever been about anything, ever." -- Noisepolluter knows the score
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  • BRISTOL86BRISTOL86 Frets: 939
    Did you get something in the end @Wazmeister ;
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  • WazmeisterWazmeister Frets: 3325
    BRISTOL86 said:
    Did you get something in the end @Wazmeister ;
    I've not really had chance yet mate... but I'd like to re-try the Sigma
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  • BRISTOL86BRISTOL86 Frets: 939
    BRISTOL86 said:
    Did you get something in the end @Wazmeister ;
    I've not really had chance yet mate... but I'd like to re-try the Sigma
    I’m economising so have ordered an OMM4 from Coda (laminate back and sides). I played one recently and at £350 it was good value let alone the £199 that Coda are selling them for!
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