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COMPOSITION CHALLENGE #21

Time for round #21 of the Fretboard Challenge, courtesy of me (!! - I'm adminning these now, in place of AntiqueG's who's now swamped at work)  and @TTony

Every few months there'll be a composition challenge. It revolves around individuals or groups of forum members composing or covering songs based on a set of rules or guidelines laid out for that particular challenge.


No prizes for this challenge. It's just for fun, a spur to creating, sharing, discussing music/recording and learning. Plus a way of testing the water with your creations and getting some feedback.


GUIDELINES

The theme for this music composition challenge is as follows:

***A New Year: Time to set new trends or update music from the past by putting a new spin on an old style***


Interpret the theme as you wish.

If you're stuck for ideas on how to start, below are some rough indicators on how the theme might be interpreted, but I'm sure others will take a different slant on it.
  • Do a guitar based rock style dance track
  • Do a heavy metal disco style track 
  • Do a electro synth blues style track
  • Pink Floyd meets jazz...

You could ignore the theme completely but, in general, people give more votes to the entries that relate to the theme. But who cares about winning anyway

Picture: In addition to the music, try to create your own picture that relates to your interpretation of the theme. This isn't mandatory but, as a small incentive, those that provide a picture will be awarded a free point to add to their voting score. Note the picture can be anything from a hand drawn sketch, photo, photo edit or something generated in a graphics package.


DATES AND VOTING

Fretboard Challenge #21 starts NOW! - Submission deadline -  Midnight 28 February 2018

Voting will start soon after the submission deadline with each voter selecting their 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice.

First choice gets 5 points - Second choice gets 3 points - Third choice gets 1 point

The entry with the most points wins.

Voting ends 11.30pm 14th March 2018

The order and scores of the three people with the most votes will be announced soon after the voting ends.


SUBMISSION DETAILS

All recordings and pictures need to be sent via email to Compositions@theFB.co.uk

All songs and pictures will then be uploaded to the Fretboard Challenge SoundCloud page here - https://soundcloud.com/thefretboard

Songs to be submitted in mp3 format.
Pictures to be in jpg or png format.

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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 12377
    Pete - I've just edited the OP slightly, to remove Antique_Guitars from the reference given that he's entrusted you with organising these, and to update the email address (which I'm just about to create - it'll autoforward entries to your address).

    Shout if either of those aren't OK with you!
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 626
    edited December 2017
    TTony said:
    Pete - I've just edited the OP slightly, to remove Antique_Guitars from the reference given that he's entrusted you with organising these, and to update the email address (which I'm just about to create - it'll autoforward entries to your address).

    Shout if either of those aren't OK with you!
    OK. I just don't want it to be forgotten that we're indebted to @Antique_Guitars and that he's not out of the picture if he wants to return when he's not so busy. So I'll probably give him the occasional mention, but not keep referencing him :)
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  • Few days off after Xmas and a Logic training manual coming from Santa....great timing :) 
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  • fnptfnpt Frets: 386
    So, how's everybody doing so far? I've tried two different approaches by now but I don't think they are really in line with the theme.
    ____
    "You don't know what you've got till the whole thing's gone. The days are dark and the road is long."





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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 626
    edited January 2
    fnpt said:
    So, how's everybody doing so far? I've tried two different approaches by now but I don't think they are really in line with the theme.
    I force myself to just keep going (trying to adding a little most days), whilst hoping that I'll eventually get an idea of how to make some sort of reference to the theme.
    It's not a competition
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 12582
    fnpt said:
    So, how's everybody doing so far? I've tried two different approaches by now but I don't think they are really in line with the theme.
    I have started and have a basic backing track laid out - it sounds weird though so it needs some work.
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  • DulcetJonesDulcetJones Frets: 349
    fnpt said:
    So, how's everybody doing so far? I've tried two different approaches by now but I don't think they are really in line with the theme.
    I've started putting an idea together, even laid down "a" percussion track that may or may not be part of the finished version.  One of my favorite ways of creating music that I will never have to play live is to record every idea in one great big mix and turn tracks off and on as I edit.  I read that this was how the Talking Heads came up with "Once in a Lifetime".

    Whoever called it "rush hour" should not be allowed to name anything else.

    Dulcet Jones Creepy Music Blog http://dulcetjones.blogspot.com/

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  • steamabacussteamabacus Frets: 890
    I had a germ of an idea based on resurrecting something from a long abandoned project and I've been busy procrastinating ever since,

    I find a period of 'thinking about it' isn't necessarily a bad idea.

    Also I need to solder some repairs to my board/setup as I currently don't have a true clean sound available. I've been procrastinating over that as well. :)
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  • fnptfnpt Frets: 386
    edited January 3
    fnpt said:
    So, how's everybody doing so far? I've tried two different approaches by now but I don't think they are really in line with the theme.
    I force myself to just keep going (trying to adding a little most days), whilst hoping that I'll eventually get an idea of how to make some sort of reference to the theme.
    That's been my approach too. I've got a chord progression and have been adding layers of guitar/ bass/ drums/ brass/ piano and it's actually not sounding bad but I lack a melody/ hook and some connection to the theme.
    ____
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 626
    edited January 3
    fnpt said:
    fnpt said:
    So, how's everybody doing so far? I've tried two different approaches by now but I don't think they are really in line with the theme.
    I force myself to just keep going (trying to adding a little most days), whilst hoping that I'll eventually get an idea of how to make some sort of reference to the theme.
    That's been my approach too. I've got a chord progression and have been adding layers of guitar/ bass/ drums/ brass/ piano and it's actually not sounding bad but I lack a melody/ hook and some connection to the theme.
    Well, as is says in the original post:

    "It's just for fun, a spur to creating, sharing, discussing music/recording and learning. Plus a way of testing the water with your creations and getting some feedback"

    and

    "You could ignore the theme completely but, in general, people give more votes to the entries that relate to the theme. But who cares about winning anyway"

    I had this initial idea of combining military marching rhythms with reggae, but I've since gone off at a tangent. I'm currently experimenting with rhythms and sounds but everything I come up sounds unoriginal in terms of style. I guess it's all been done before. But having a germ of an idea at least helps me create something. I'm not sure my end result is going to have an obvious link to the theme yet, but I'll still put it out there

    When I'm looking for a melody/hook, I try to hear things in my head but often resort to randomly jamming over the track until I hear something I like that I can build on.

    btw: I should point out that I got the lowest number of votes in the previous (End Of Year) Challenge. So what do I know.
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  • flying_pieflying_pie Frets: 10
    fnpt said:
    So, how's everybody doing so far? I've tried two different approaches by now but I don't think they are really in line with the theme.
    I've got a concept... which is frankly a bit daft. It will either be fun or a total car crash - turning a classic old school Broadway number into prog metal.

    I've transposed the main melody from major scale to harmonic minor (ish), changed the time signature then had a play around to create original riffs/licks around it with both harmonic and dissonant sections. I'm not going to just do a literal transposition from major to minor.

    Prog metal isn't a genre that I'm totally at home with so I don't know if it will be anything other than a series of badly played old school metal clichés with no prog but we'll see. I've got a demo of the verse and rough drums for the chorus and hopefully record the chorus riffs this weekend. I'm still unsure if I'll keep it entirely instrumental or add vocals as I'm not a metal vocalist. 

    This is my first ever composition challenge. I'm very new to recording and I know nothing about drumming or bass but I figure is the best way to learn is by jumping in balls deep. Expect some silly questions over the next month or so.
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 12582
    This thread reminds me of the old prog rock joke ..

    Guitarist of band Vendelinus: "this is our last number tonight"

    Audience (four fat blokes and a dog called Colin: "boo .. you've only played for 15 minutes"

    Guitarist of band Vendelinus: "don't worry it lasts two hours and we 'll throw everything at it - the song's called kitchen sink"

    :-)

    I bet @steamabacus gets 100 tracks laid down ....
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  • steamabacussteamabacus Frets: 890
    Haha - 100 tracks of shakers and maracas?

    Personally, I try not to 'overthink' it. I wait to see what spark of inspiration/interest arises and then run with that, often with no clear idea of how it relates to the 'theme'. If I'm lucky It'll start to make sense as the track grows.

    I leave it to intuition, mostly.


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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 626
    Fretwired said:
    This thread reminds me of the old prog rock joke ..

    Guitarist of band Vendelinus: "this is our last number tonight"

    Audience (four fat blokes and a dog called Colin: "boo .. you've only played for 15 minutes"

    Guitarist of band Vendelinus: "don't worry it lasts two hours and we 'll throw everything at it - the song's called kitchen sink"...

    Well that's uncanny!!!

    If a possible title occurs to me, I save the Reaper file with that name. See the picture below for a possible title I considered yesterday.

    https://i.imgur.com/wdSduvc.png


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  • BezzerBezzer Frets: 150
    edited January 3

    This task melts my brain.  I mean surely "a guitar based rock style dance track" is a rock track and "a heavy metal disco style track" is a metal track?

    That said, metal disco is probably what I'll do ... falling a million miles outside of scope but hey.  Will try and do something this weekend, wanted to play with my new plugins anyway.  

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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 12582
    Bezzer said:

    This task melts my brain.  I mean surely "a guitar based rock style dance track" is a rock track and "a heavy metal disco style track" is a metal track?

    That said, metal disco is probably what I'll do ... falling a million miles outside of scope but hey.  Will try and do something this weekend, wanted to play with my new plugins anyway.  

    Remember Shaun Baxter and his album Jazz metal ... did what it said on the tin ....



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  • BezzerBezzer Frets: 150
    edited January 4

    That's true ... although I'd've said they were either metal tracks with a lot of wrong notes ... or jazz tracks with distortion.  Probably the former



    That said ... that example in particular is about as metal as Bieber.

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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 626
    edited January 4
    Fretwired said:
    Bezzer said:

    This task melts my brain.  I mean surely "a guitar based rock style dance track" is a rock track and "a heavy metal disco style track" is a metal track?

    That said, metal disco is probably what I'll do ... falling a million miles outside of scope but hey.  Will try and do something this weekend, wanted to play with my new plugins anyway.  

    Remember Shaun Baxter and his album Jazz metal ... did what it said on the tin ....



     I saw him perform that material on the London pub circuit. Amazing stuff. I've still got the album on CD.

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  • flying_pieflying_pie Frets: 10
    Bezzer said:

    This task melts my brain.  I mean surely "a guitar based rock style dance track" is a rock track and "a heavy metal disco style track" is a metal track?

    The key can be in the lyrics. Write some extreme satanic lyrics over disco keyboards and distorted metal style guitars and you'll get heavy metal style disco.

    Sorry. I've just realised you won't. You'll just sound like Ghost. 

    I can see your quandary. 
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 12582
    Fretwired said:
    Bezzer said:

    This task melts my brain.  I mean surely "a guitar based rock style dance track" is a rock track and "a heavy metal disco style track" is a metal track?

    That said, metal disco is probably what I'll do ... falling a million miles outside of scope but hey.  Will try and do something this weekend, wanted to play with my new plugins anyway.  

    Remember Shaun Baxter and his album Jazz metal ... did what it said on the tin ....



     I saw him perform that material on the London pub circuit. Amazing stuff. I've still got the album on CD.

    I have one as well. Had some lessons from him. He had a bad accident and dropped out for many years.
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  • steamabacussteamabacus Frets: 890
    I've never understood genres and, with the proliferation of ever more niche categorisations these days, the situation just seems farcical to me - just write some music.

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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 626
    edited January 4
    I've never understood genres and, with the proliferation of ever more niche categorisations these days, the situation just seems farcical to me - just write some music.

    Great idea for the next theme: "Just Write Some Music

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  • DulcetJonesDulcetJones Frets: 349
    There was a band a few years ago that combined metal and flamenco, and even had flamenco dancers in full garb on stage.  They were calling it "flametal" and may have been using that as a band name, I don't remember but the few clips of video from live shows verified that they were indeed combining the two genres.  It didn't catch on.

    Whoever called it "rush hour" should not be allowed to name anything else.

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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 12582
    I've never understood genres and, with the proliferation of ever more niche categorisations these days, 
    I think it was OK when we had classical, jazz, folk, easy listening, pop, rock, rock n' roll, blues, reggae, soul, electronic and world music. It started going wrong in the late 1960's with funk, psychedelic rock, folk rock, jazz rock, blues rock, ska,  rock steady, punk rock, hard rock, pub rock, post-rock, heavy metal, hardcore, thrash metal, indie, Brit pop, ambient ..... it's now totally out of hand ...  hip-hop, techno, grime, jungle, post-jungle, Detroit sound, tech house, UK bass, urban, west coast urban, EDM etc, etc ....

    As you say .. just make music.
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  • BezzerBezzer Frets: 150

    Metal, I think, has become the worst offender.  I used to joke it was all Metalcore, Grindcore, bloody Applecore ... and now there are at least 3 sub genres of grindcore, which is a sub genre of metalcore which is ... blah blah blah.

    Maybe I'm just getting old :)

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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 12582
    Bezzer said:

    Metal, I think, has become the worst offender.  I used to joke it was all Metalcore, Grindcore, bloody Applecore ... and now there are at least 3 sub genres of grindcore, which is a sub genre of metalcore which is ... blah blah blah.

    Maybe I'm just getting old :)

    If you dig deeper you get this list ... just bonkers ...

    • Funk metal
    • Nu metal
    • Rap metal
    • Avante-garde metal
    • Black metal
    • National Socialist black metal
    • Red and Anarchist black metal
    • Symphonic black metal
    • Viking metal
    • War metal
    • Blackgaze
    • Christian metal
    • Unblack metal
    • Crust punk
    • Death metal
    • Blackened death metal
    • Death 'n' roll
    • Melodic death metal
    • Technical death metal
    • Doom metal
    • Drone metal
    • Funeral doom
    • Sludge metal
    • Extreme metal
    • Folk metal
    • Celtic metal
    • Pirate metal
    • Medieval metal
    • Pagan metal
    • Glam metal
    • Gothic metal
    • Grindcore
    • Deathgrind
    • Pronogrind
    • Industrial metal
    • Kawaii metal
    • Metalcore
    • Mathcore
    • Neue Deutsche Härte
    • Post-metal
    • Power metal
    • Progressive metal
    • Djent
    • Space metal
    • Speed metal
    • Stoner metal
    • Symphonic metal
    • Thrash metal
    • Groove metal
    • Teutonic thrash metal

    And that's not all by a long shot .....






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  • BezzerBezzer Frets: 150

    So I suppose, I would be in the spirit of the task writing a War Metal track and subverting it to be a Viking Metal track ....

    Daft thing is, I really do consider myself a fan of metal, and I'm pretty sure I'd struggle to pick out some of these in a line up.  Except for Drone Metal ... that one stands out, God bless Sunn O)))!

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  • steamabacussteamabacus Frets: 890
    No Scrap Metal?
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 626
    Bezzer said:

    So I suppose, I would be in the spirit of the task writing a War Metal track and subverting it to be a Viking Metal track ....


    To be honest, you'd be in the spirit of the task if you write anything :) We just want to get more people involved. You might get more votes if there's some link to the theme, but that's not guaranteed.

    I find having some sort of theme helps me produce something, even if it were something weird like "write music for cows". Which is probably a cue for jokes about moo-sic.

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  • DulcetJonesDulcetJones Frets: 349
    Before all the metal genre overloads a comedy duo, "McLean and  McLean"  did a spoof on rock genres based on "shock rock" , "soft rock" etc..., they included "Speech Impediment Rock" citing songs like BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet" and Elton Johns "Benny and the Jets".

    Whoever called it "rush hour" should not be allowed to name anything else.

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