Anyone play an Admira or Manuel Rodriguez classical?

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Chris_JChris_J Frets: 72
 I've been asked, by my cousin and his fiancee, to play them down the aisle. While flattered, they would like a Jose Gonzalez tune that I think would only sound correct on a Spanish style classical guitar and I don't have one,  nor have I ever played that style. 

Now it's 6 months away, so I'll be fine learning the song,  but,  do I just play it on my dread or shall I treat myself to a new guitar...

My mate can get Admira and Manuel Rodriguez into his music shop, but,  I dont know either brand .

Any pointers? 

Cheers :)
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  • Chris_JChris_J Frets: 72
    Can a grown-up move this for me please :)
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  • Chris_JChris_J Frets: 72
    Thanks :)
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 32760
    From memory of working in a large traditional music shop which sold both, Manuel Rodriguez are generally a higher-grade guitar than Admira, although the ranges overlap. At the same price point there probably isn't much in it. If you're looking for a best tone for the money solution to a problem, I would get the cheapest solid-top guitar in either range.
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  • Col_DeckerCol_Decker Frets: 2186
    I had a M.R. years ago but foolishly sold it. It was a great guitar. But if you don’t want to break the bank try a Takamine, I got one from eBay last year for £200, good electronics in it too. 

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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 4203
    I have a MR FG
    It's good, but I would prefer a bit more zing to it, but that's probably just me

    what is your budget?

    do you really want a 2 inch nut,  flat fingerboard?
    (There are cross over nylons about 48mm wide, with a radiused board)
    I'm thinking that you might be better off with a crossover one?

    Also - amplified or not?
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  • Chris_JChris_J Frets: 72
    I'm sure I'd get used to a 2 inch nut fairly quickly, but, you're right I'd probably find a 48mm less alien from the off. A crossover might be worth looking into,  if only for a comparison.

    Re price, I'll prob spend in the 4-600 region.

    I tend to prefer acoustics without electronic panels on the side, so if I was to get something with a pickup installed it must be discreet, or I guess I could install a k&k at a later date.

    Im guessing the wedding will poss require amplification, even if only just louder than acoustic volume.
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 4203
    I think a well-developed "concert" technique is needed to get a lot of volume from a classical, unless using a plectrum

    I think a 2 inch nut would be easier to adapt to than a completely flat fingerboard - go and try a few maybe?

    I'd just use a K&K transducer pickup with no preamp in the guitar, as I have just done on a nylon cutaway with radiused fingerboard and 48mm nut.  Bear in mind the transducer needs the bottom EQ'd out, and a scooped mid

    Check the arrangement of the piece you want to play: all classicals are 12 fret, and it's possible the track needs more than that if the original was played on a cutaway modern model

    one other thing I learned recently: nylon strings don't provide much tension, so standard bracing would prevent much sound being produced acoustically.  Classicals typically have very light fan bracing (btw with this, you need the special 4 transducer variation of the K&K). However crossover models intended to play live sometimes have tighter bracing to lessen feedback when amplified - therefore choose the combination you want long-term (i.e. amplified or acoustic)

    which track is it?
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  • BigLicks67BigLicks67 Frets: 497
    I had an Admira Malaga for about ten years. It's the solid cedar top with mahogany one in their line up. I liked it and thought it was pound for pound a great guitar (£150 at the time), it had a lively tone, was lightweight and well balanced. The fit and finish were rudimentary and it didn't look that great but it would do the job. 
    I'm not sure if I've played a Manuel Rodriguez, I did play one with a similar/same? name years ago but found it heavy and overbuilt.

    I currently have a Yamaha CG182S (spruce with rosewood) which is definitely superior in fit, finish and looks but not much of an improvement tonally. 

    I wouldn't worry too much about nut width and radius particularly if you are on a budget, as crossover guitars just add pounds to the price with no tonal improvement.
    Your best bet is used as classical guitars are hard to sell, here's a nice one on fleabay.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-CG-201S-Classical-Guitar-Case-Warranty/253295848189?hash=item3af99beafd:g:2v0AAOSwDkVaJo15


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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 4203
    I had an Admira Malaga for about ten years. It's the solid cedar top with mahogany one in their line up. I liked it and thought it was pound for pound a great guitar (£150 at the time), it had a lively tone, was lightweight and well balanced. The fit and finish were rudimentary and it didn't look that great but it would do the job. 
    I'm not sure if I've played a Manuel Rodriguez, I did play one with a similar/same? name years ago but found it heavy and overbuilt.

    I currently have a Yamaha CG182S (spruce with rosewood) which is definitely superior in fit, finish and looks but not much of an improvement tonally. 

    I wouldn't worry too much about nut width and radius particularly if you are on a budget, as crossover guitars just add pounds to the price with no tonal improvement.
    Your best bet is used as classical guitars are hard to sell, here's a nice one on fleabay.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-CG-201S-Classical-Guitar-Case-Warranty/253295848189?hash=item3af99beafd:g:2v0AAOSwDkVaJo15


    I agree with you on these points

    my MR is heavy, and I suspect overbuilt

    if we are sticking with a normal fingerboard, this one Chalky found looks good value
    https://www.pmtonline.co.uk/yamaha-cgx122mcc-electro-classical-guitar-natural?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI19W57_632AIVarXtCh26kQDhEAYYASABEgLTj_D_BwE

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