30ish watts amp with a lead boost / channel with marshally drive tones ??

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riffpowersriffpowers Frets: 92
fancying a new amp and wondering what's out there. 
Looking for 30 ish watts , and a lead channel. I like jcm800's and tiny terrors for reference. 
What should I be looking at ?!!
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  • Orange rocker 30? 
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  • timmysofttimmysoft Frets: 1559
    jet city jca22 or 50
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 29644
    Orange rocker 30? 
    +1

    The old model - discontinued but not too rare. The guitarist in my band has one, it sounds fantastic. The lead channel is somewhere between an old Orange and a 2203 and takes boost pedals well, and the clean channel takes distortion and fuzz brilliantly. No FX loop though, if that matters.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • JMP220478JMP220478 Frets: 112
    JCA custom 22 .. pm me as I might be moving one on 
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  • If you like the Tiny Terror then why not look at the Dual Terror? I've found mine quite versatile. The only cons are no built-in reverb and no effects loop.
     
    "When the train, it left the station, there was two lights on behind,
    Well, the blue light was my baby, and the red light was my mind.”
    Robert Johnson
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  • welshboyowelshboyo Frets: 891
    Not 30 watts but don't discount a Mesa Stiletto Ace - a lot of amp for the money
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  • PlectrumPlectrum Frets: 473
    Marshall Astoria Dual or Custom.
    One day I'm going to make a guitar out of butter to experience just how well it actually plays.
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  • timmysofttimmysoft Frets: 1559
    welshboyo said:
    Not 30 watts but don't discount a Mesa Stiletto Ace - a lot of amp for the money
    If you use a couple of the switches, it drops to around 30w

    the ace is so much better than the deuce or trident
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  • Cornford Roadhouse 30
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  • DrCorneliusDrCornelius Frets: 745
    Check out the Budda Superdrive 30 on here. Awesome rock amp
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  • timmysofttimmysoft Frets: 1559
    Check out the Budda Superdrive 30 on here. Awesome rock amp
    Yep, I play an SD18 now, best drive sound I’ve ever had. I don’t think it’s great as a channel switcher but as a single channel amp, it’s phenomenal 
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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 5111
    Cornford Roadhouse
    <Vintage BOSS Upgrades>
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  • rockmonsterrockmonster Frets: 329
    Victory?
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  • TwinfanTwinfan Frets: 285
    Mini Silver Jubilee
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  • slateslate Frets: 72
    JMP1 preamp and 20/20 valve power amp - all the jcm800 tones you could wish for and more :-)
    (I just happen to have this rig and will be selling it shortly lol)
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  • riffpowersriffpowers Frets: 92
    timmysoft said:
    welshboyo said:
    Not 30 watts but don't discount a Mesa Stiletto Ace - a lot of amp for the money
    If you use a couple of the switches, it drops to around 30w

    the ace is so much better than the deuce or trident
    I had the deuce briefly and although it was fantastic quality and had everything I needed I found it a bit too fiddly (too many knobs and switches ) , I didn't warm to it particularly and it had a lot of glass in there !!
    it did however have everything I needed on paper. .
    did they make the ace as a head or just a combo ???
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  • riffpowersriffpowers Frets: 92
    ICBM said:
    Orange rocker 30? 
    +1

    The old model - discontinued but not too rare. The guitarist in my band has one, it sounds fantastic. The lead channel is somewhere between an old Orange and a 2203 and takes boost pedals well, and the clean channel takes distortion and fuzz brilliantly. No FX loop though, if that matters.
    I was worried that these amps might me a bit dark sounding , although your description makes it sound perfect !! 
    Fx loop doesn't matter to me , but I could do with sometime that has a boost for leads. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 29644
    edited January 3
    riffpowers said:

    I was worried that these amps might me a bit dark sounding , although your description makes it sound perfect !! 
    No, they sound like a real Orange, not like these dark, middy, muddy things they make so many of now . The best-sounding modern Orange by a mile.

    Fx loop doesn't matter to me , but I could do with sometime that has a boost for leads. 
    But that could be a problem - they're cathode-biased, and inherently quite compressed... so when they're at high volume they don't get much louder with a boost in front.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • FaffFaff Frets: 12
    Can I refer you to my Orange TH30 Combo for sale in Amps£ A Great no nonsense workhorse. Solid and reliable. As it happens, I'll be near Durham and I can deliver it this Saturday!
    Guitarist for the incredible...  HEY PIXIES - The UK's most gigantic PIXIES tribute band
    http://www.facebook.com/heypixies


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  • MoltisantiMoltisanti Frets: 882
    If you mean a volume boost for leads, hardly any amps have one (Friedman Phil X does), but anything with a proper FX loop (Metro) will work with an EQ (but we've all explained this to you 500 times and here we are... :) )

    My suggestion to you is this - Buy a Friedman Pink Taco or Dirty Shirley Mini from an online store, you then have 7 days to try it to your hearts content, and you can send it back for a full refund if you don;t like it.

    They sound fantastic, are very fun to play, have proper FX loops so will take a lead boost pedal no prob, and they clean up brilliantly with your guitar's volume knob.

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 29644
    If you mean a volume boost for leads, hardly any amps have one
    Actually most modern Mesa amps do, as well as the Marshall JCM900 SL-X and High Gain Master Volume.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • TwinfanTwinfan Frets: 285
    The Mini Jube has a lead boost too, if you use the rhythm clip on the clean channel.  That's how I run mine (dirty plus lead) and it's how Marshall designed it.  I run the master at around 5, lead boost around 8 and for pub gigs it's perfect.

    If you want Marshall gain tones at sensible volumes, plus a lead boost, it's absolutely perfect.  I can't praise it highly enough.
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 501
    My problem with using it like that is the amp just sounds grainy, weaker and less punchy with rhythm clip pulled. I can't seem to eq it to sound as good as when I'm just using the lead channel with rhythm clip off.
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  • TwinfanTwinfan Frets: 285
    It's a very sensitive EQ and everything affects everything else when you change something.  It's worth persevering with and finding a setting that works.

    I'm using the head and matching 2x12 and a real key for me is to always have the bass on 10 and the presence on at least 7 to get the amp opened up.  It's a bright amp, just as a Marshall should be  :)
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  • KristoKristo Frets: 24
    If you are near Suffolk you are welcome to come and try my Bluetone that's up for sale in the classifieds. Great sounding Marshall based solid state combo, with boost available by adding a footswitch.
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  • CollingsCollings Frets: 118
    TTBZ said:
    My problem with using it like that is the amp just sounds grainy, weaker and less punchy with rhythm clip pulled. I can't seem to eq it to sound as good as when I'm just using the lead channel with rhythm clip off.
    Yes thats what i found. I had the Jubilee Mini and currently an original Jubilee and i find the tone on the boost channel is far better when the clip is not engaged. Also to use the clip on the normal channel i have to eq it in such a way that the boost channel suffers. They are great amps but work best for me as a single channel amp. Which in effect they are really.
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  • paulphoenixpaulphoenix Frets: 46
    edited January 11
    My first real  valve amp was an ENGL gigmaster 30. it has a footswitchable gain boost, mid boost and master volume boost. The lead channel can get pretty gainy but it's not your typical ENGL high gain metal amp (the clean channel is pretty nice too).

    I still have it, but I don't really use it anymore, so I could be convinced to part ways with it. 


    A minor is ACE 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 29644
    Collings said:
    TTBZ said:
    My problem with using it like that is the amp just sounds grainy, weaker and less punchy with rhythm clip pulled. I can't seem to eq it to sound as good as when I'm just using the lead channel with rhythm clip off.
    Yes thats what i found. I had the Jubilee Mini and currently an original Jubilee and i find the tone on the boost channel is far better when the clip is not engaged. Also to use the clip on the normal channel i have to eq it in such a way that the boost channel suffers. They are great amps but work best for me as a single channel amp. Which in effect they are really.
    Yes, they are. From memory the two modes engage different clipping networks, but it’s all on the same single audio path - hence why they affect each other.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • CollingsCollings Frets: 118
    ICBM said:8
    Collings said:
    TTBZ said:
    My problem with using it like that is the amp just sounds grainy, weaker and less punchy with rhythm clip pulled. I can't seem to eq it to sound as good as when I'm just using the lead channel with rhythm clip off.
    Yes thats what i found. I had the Jubilee Mini and currently an original Jubilee and i find the tone on the boost channel is far better when the clip is not engaged. Also to use the clip on the normal channel i have to eq it in such a way that the boost channel suffers. They are great amps but work best for me as a single channel amp. Which in effect they are really.
    Yes, they are. From memory the two modes engage different clipping networks, but it’s all on the same single audio path - hence why they affect each other.
    Yes thats my understanding. The boost mode/channel always has its diode clipping engaged and in the clean mode the rhyhm cipping is switchable from the front panel but as its essentially the same signal path.
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  • fastonebazfastonebaz Frets: 109
    How about the Laney GH30R, sounds amazing here:


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