McMafia

57Deluxe

in an interview with he author Misha Glenny, he did state that the 'Mc' is a reference to McDonalds  - ie that you now get the same  franchised setups running the same way with same delivery in every country you go...

rsvmark

Saw a headline today that it's ruffled a few feathers in the Russian Embassy....

Fretwired

57Deluxe said:

in an interview with he author Misha Glenny, he did state that the 'Mc' is a reference to McDonalds  - ie that you now get the same  franchised setups running the same way with same delivery in every country you go...

That was explained in EP2 ... franchising the movement of drugs etc along the same lines as McDonalds.

Garthy

rsvmark said:

Saw a headline today that it's ruffled a few feathers in the Russian Embassy....

It also fucked off the Israelis because they’ve done their whole chip on shoulder thing. 

Zoolooter

Danny1969 said:

Fretwired said:

bingefeller said:

Zoolooter said:

The lead actor has zero charisma. Totally unbelievable, in fact so is his dad. but definitely see that he has a place in something from Jane Austen, or the like. Just miscast in this particular role. Terrible racial stereotypes as well. Pretty awful stuff.

I think that's the point - he's meant to appear clinical and cold.  You're meant to question his character and ask yourself if there is something more going on with him.  

It is the point. He's supposed to be a fish out of water - his family are gangsters whereas he's just a banker leading a normal upper middle class life with his girlfriend. Watch what happens next ....

This is essentially  the same beginnings as The Godfather 

Yes, I understand the whole fish out of water, he's just a fund manager, etc. Someone earlier succinctly described him as wooden. Not seeing much of the Godfather in this one, maybe because it starred Pacino, de Niro and Brando oozing charisma in every frame.

gusman2x

57Deluxe said:

Is OK is a bit 'Eastern Promises'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Promises

That's giving it too much praise imo. Pretty weak writing and characterisation. I was disappointed, as I really enjoyed the first episode, but it went on the slide after uncle Boris died.

rsvmark

Garthy said:

rsvmark said:

Saw a headline today that it's ruffled a few feathers in the Russian Embassy....

It also fucked off the Israelis because they’ve done their whole chip on shoulder thing. 

Outstanding work. 2 squeaky clean regimes

munckee

I agree with the godfather similarities.  His wooden demeanour has been explained so far that even close family can't read him. Even though he is essentially a fish out of water the fact he is related to his dad and Boris and is learning martial arts suggests he has a bit of metal about him.  He does look physically like a royal though, he has the horsey faced upper class incest look about him.

57Deluxe

gusman2x said:

 but it went on the slide after uncle Boris died.

anyone recognise Boris?? - - He was the dodgy geeze (Puss) in Top of The Lake 2 China Girl

https://www.foxtel.com.au/content/dam/foxtel/watch/shows/top-of-the-lake/david-dencik.png

bingefeller

I wonder what the craic is with the kidnapped Russian girl and your man who drives the cars for Semiyon?  I bet he'll feel sorry for her and try to rescue her and kill Semiyon.  

munckee

bingefeller said:

I wonder what the craic is with the kidnapped Russian girl and your man who drives the cars for Semiyon?  I bet he'll feel sorry for her and try to rescue her and kill Semiyon.  

I thought Semiyon would find out they have been talking and kill him in front of the banker and he will realise what he's like and he will kill Semiyon.

mellowsun

57Deluxe said:

gusman2x said:

 but it went on the slide after uncle Boris died.

anyone recognise Boris?? - - He was the dodgy geeze (Puss) in Top of The Lake 2 China Girl

https://www.foxtel.com.au/content/dam/foxtel/watch/shows/top-of-the-lake/david-dencik.png

Yeah, he definitely seems to have cornered the market in playing whiney sleazebags.

Neil

Zoolooter said:

Danny1969 said:

Fretwired said:

bingefeller said:

Zoolooter said:

The lead actor has zero charisma. Totally unbelievable, in fact so is his dad. but definitely see that he has a place in something from Jane Austen, or the like. Just miscast in this particular role. Terrible racial stereotypes as well. Pretty awful stuff.

I think that's the point - he's meant to appear clinical and cold.  You're meant to question his character and ask yourself if there is something more going on with him.  

It is the point. He's supposed to be a fish out of water - his family are gangsters whereas he's just a banker leading a normal upper middle class life with his girlfriend. Watch what happens next ....

This is essentially  the same beginnings as The Godfather 

Yes, I understand the whole fish out of water, he's just a fund manager, etc. Someone earlier succinctly described him as wooden. Not seeing much of the Godfather in this one, maybe because it starred Pacino, de Niro and Brando oozing charisma in every frame.

The similarity with The Godfather is that Al Pacino came back to his family squeaky clean and idealistic after his war service and gradually assimilated into the mafia. 

We can see Godman in a similar position. 

MagicPigDetective

So it's not about the Scottish branch of the Mafia?