Think Fuzz tones stink ?........feast your ears on this

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TelejesterTelejester Frets: 642
https://youtu.be/fU6oBFEix8E


Big loose, wallowy, flubby, farty, spitty and soggy undefined bloated mess, thats is how ive always viewed fuzz pedals. Then there is the fuzz unit in the clip, costs a bloody fortune but what a sound !! Anyone own one of these ?
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 540
    I always find expensive fuzz pedals an odd one that I'm conflicted on. Sometimes it's such a cool sound but I'd feel weird spending that much money on something that sounds so nasty... but in a good way. 
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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 5727
    IS there anything special in that sound? Not really. Will stick to my FZ2
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 2808
    I think it's the player rather than the stomp that sounds so good
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 10319
    As a general rule I don't like fuzz, but the video sounded good!
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  • Modulus_AmpsModulus_Amps Frets: 457
    sounds great, really clear, would like to hear it in the room, I love fuzz pedals and own a good number, but often once playing them I get annoyed that they are not tighter
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  • John_PJohn_P Frets: 1547
    edited January 6
    I’m not a big fan of fuzz pedals generally but that was pretty good.    By coincidence it was the same pedal that I thought sounded the best on this weeks episode of that pedal show.  
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  • TelejesterTelejester Frets: 642
    sounds great, really clear, would like to hear it in the room, I love fuzz pedals and own a good number, but often once playing them I get annoyed that they are not tighter
    I think most fuzz pedals have a big fat saggy arse that skims the carpet like vanessa feltz's rear end, that mkiv just seems to yank on the corset strings and tighten everything up......i think it sounds awesome in the clip
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  • The problem I always, always have with Fuzz demos is that its nearly impossible to tell whats the pedal and whats the amp. A slightly crunchy valve amp (which is what that sounds like) reacts so differently to a clean amp that its really hard to judge. 
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  • TelejesterTelejester Frets: 642
    https://youtu.be/cUlFakvc4p8

    @Modulus_Amps here is a 2nd clip of the mkiv vintage fuzz, still sounding pretty good
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  • JMP220478JMP220478 Frets: 128
    This is an awesome  crossover dist / fuzz demo .. 



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  • siraxemansiraxeman Frets: 1924
    I still are not like teh fuzz buzz.
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  • siraxemansiraxeman Frets: 1924
    I still are not like teh fuzz buzz.
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 540
    edited January 7
    sounds great, really clear, would like to hear it in the room, I love fuzz pedals and own a good number, but often once playing them I get annoyed that they are not tighter
    This is my problem with a lot of fuzzes as well. I love the sound for leads and bluesy single string riffing but if I want to do anything with palm mutes it goes mushy. Apparently the Buzzaround circuit is good for a tighter low end but I've never tried one. For me a Rat is the best compromise but I just wish it was a bit fuzzier sounding earlier on the dial and there was one with a slightly different voicing as theres something in the tone/voicing that grates on me after a while playing mine.
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  • hotpickupshotpickups Frets: 862
    Wasn't that pedal featured on the latest TPS fuzz episode ?
    Link to my trading feedback:  http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/59452/
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  • TelejesterTelejester Frets: 642
    hotpickups said: 
    Wasn't that pedal featured on the latest TPS fuzz episode ?
    yes it was and it blew the others away
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  • ash96ash96 Frets: 52
    I was never a fan of fuzz, always thought it was a big of a grungey flubby undefined mess... 
    They I went on that guitar breaks trips and Pete Honore (from the andertons channel etc) had a Thorpy on his board (I cant remember which it was maybe @ThorpyFX can help, it was the one that had the clean boost built in? dual pedal)
    And that sounded awesome! Fuzz without the brutal flubbiness (if you didnt want it). seemed halfway between and OD/Dist and a Fuzz.

    That Velevet Fuzz by Wampler sounds great. I'm looking at a high gain OD for solo's for my small board, and was thinking of a fuzz but thought it wouldnt be versatile enough, but that sounds like it covers most with the tight / big switch.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 12376
    I only use 2 fuzz pedals, a silicon Fuzz Face for spiky, aggressive sounds and a Fuzz Factory for everything else.
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  • hotpickupshotpickups Frets: 862
    Is this fuzz buffer friendly does anyone know?
    Link to my trading feedback:  http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/59452/
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  • ThorpyFXThorpyFX Frets: 4009
    ash96 said:
    I was never a fan of fuzz, always thought it was a big of a grungey flubby undefined mess... 
    They I went on that guitar breaks trips and Pete Honore (from the andertons channel etc) had a Thorpy on his board (I cant remember which it was maybe @ThorpyFX can help, it was the one that had the clean boost built in? dual pedal)
    And that sounded awesome! Fuzz without the brutal flubbiness (if you didnt want it). seemed halfway between and OD/Dist and a Fuzz.

    That Velevet Fuzz by Wampler sounds great. I'm looking at a high gain OD for solo's for my small board, and was thinking of a fuzz but thought it wouldnt be versatile enough, but that sounds like it covers most with the tight / big switch.
    Pete has the silicon Veteran and plays the s*** out of it, that man is a tour de force.
    Adrian Thorpe MBE | Owner of ThorpyFx Ltd | Email: thorpy@thorpyfx.com | Twitter: @ThorpyFx | Facebook: ThorpyFx Ltd | Website: www.thorpyfx.com
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  • ThorpyFXThorpyFX Frets: 4009
    Is this fuzz buffer friendly does anyone know?
    Ask scotty I’m sure he’ll know.

    That being said I know the buffer friendly thing is vital/important to some people but the whole tone of a germanium fuzz comes from the fact that fuzzes like the fuzzface and Mk1.5 TB are virtual earth current drive inputs, like shoving your pickup straight into the - terminal in an op amp, so there’s tons of gain-  and possible instability. Backing off the guitar vol is like adding the missing series resistor, which reduces gain and cleans it up making it less noisy and more stable.

    That’s why it’s so important in those circuits that the pedal “sees” the pickups, that being said the benefits of loopers makes it possible to have your cake and eat it. 
    Adrian Thorpe MBE | Owner of ThorpyFx Ltd | Email: thorpy@thorpyfx.com | Twitter: @ThorpyFx | Facebook: ThorpyFx Ltd | Website: www.thorpyfx.com
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  • hotpickupshotpickups Frets: 862
    ThorpyFX said:
    Is this fuzz buffer friendly does anyone know?
    Ask scotty I’m sure he’ll know.

    That being said I know the buffer friendly thing is vital/important to some people but the whole tone of a germanium fuzz comes from the fact that fuzzes like the fuzzface and Mk1.5 TB are virtual earth current drive inputs, like shoving your pickup straight into the - terminal in an op amp, so there’s tons of gain-  and possible instability. Backing off the guitar vol is like adding the missing series resistor, which reduces gain and cleans it up making it less noisy and more stable.

    That’s why it’s so important in those circuits that the pedal “sees” the pickups, that being said the benefits of loopers makes it possible to have your cake and eat it. 
    I must admit I never found much of a difference with having a buffer in front of my veteran. Maybe a little though when I had two buffers in front of it. ;) I don't now though :)
    Link to my trading feedback:  http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/59452/
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  • ThorpyFXThorpyFX Frets: 4009
    ThorpyFX said:
    Is this fuzz buffer friendly does anyone know?
    Ask scotty I’m sure he’ll know.

    That being said I know the buffer friendly thing is vital/important to some people but the whole tone of a germanium fuzz comes from the fact that fuzzes like the fuzzface and Mk1.5 TB are virtual earth current drive inputs, like shoving your pickup straight into the - terminal in an op amp, so there’s tons of gain-  and possible instability. Backing off the guitar vol is like adding the missing series resistor, which reduces gain and cleans it up making it less noisy and more stable.

    That’s why it’s so important in those circuits that the pedal “sees” the pickups, that being said the benefits of loopers makes it possible to have your cake and eat it. 
    I must admit I never found much of a difference with having a buffer in front of my veteran. Maybe a little though when I had two buffers in front of it. ;) I don't now though :)
    It’s cos you now do it right! 
    Adrian Thorpe MBE | Owner of ThorpyFx Ltd | Email: thorpy@thorpyfx.com | Twitter: @ThorpyFx | Facebook: ThorpyFx Ltd | Website: www.thorpyfx.com
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  • Modulus_AmpsModulus_Amps Frets: 457
    @Telejester Ok this sounds pretty good, if you stick a treble booster in front of most fuzz pedals they sound great without the low end farts, this sounds like they have done something similar with the MKIV, probably with a tonebender circuit. would love to hear Scott Holiday rip out some riffs on this

    Where can you buy them, they don't come up in the product search on Google.
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 3403
    the Paul Trombetta Bone machine and mini Bone take some beating
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  • CarewCarew Frets: 8
    edited January 10
    Is ProAnanlog MkIV a Mk4 Tonebender clone?   I guessing my the name and the colour (Park Fuzz) that it is?
    pedal fiend
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  • Wasn't the guy that makes these called out for dodgy dealings a while back? I seem to remember a forum somewhere where he had a few unhappy customers, although maybe that's all been sorted now.
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  • CarewCarew Frets: 8
    Wasn't the guy that makes these called out for dodgy dealings a while back? I seem to remember a forum somewhere where he had a few unhappy customers, although maybe that's all been sorted now.
    sounds like a very casual slur on your part
    pedal fiend
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 2631
    Carew said:
    Wasn't the guy that makes these called out for dodgy dealings a while back? I seem to remember a forum somewhere where he had a few unhappy customers, although maybe that's all been sorted now.
    sounds like a very casual slur on your part
    I saw hints of that on a Gear Page thread, but no specific info.
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  • Carew said:
    Wasn't the guy that makes these called out for dodgy dealings a while back? I seem to remember a forum somewhere where he had a few unhappy customers, although maybe that's all been sorted now.
    sounds like a very casual slur on your part
    Here it is:

    https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/proanalog-pedals-appreciation-thread.1165437/page-8

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  • CarewCarew Frets: 8
    edited January 10
    ^ thanks for the elaboration
    pedal fiend
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