Line 6 Helix HX effects unit leaked....

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  • WazmeisterWazmeister Frets: 3911
    Dominic said:
    I think the Reverbs in all Line 6 are the weakest link ......but I like the Trem especially the Harmonic Trem
    I agreed with this for so long; the FX8 verbs were much better than the Helix, and none came close to the Big Sky....

    But the new updated verbs on the Helix really are much much better. Indeed, Ive just sold my beloved Big Sky and Talisman, as a result of the HX purchase.
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    Nice. Those plastic strips are removable ;-)
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    A nice vid from what I presume to be 'our own' @rossyamaha showing him matching someone's £2K pedalboard with the HX.

    Nice one Ross (and Jack at Peach - I'm sure he used to work at Guitar Guitar, Epsom)



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  • rossyamaharossyamaha Frets: 1717
    @Kebabkid yep thats me. I was doing some training with the guys and John came and said can I do a quick video. Very off the cuff and felt the pressure for sure. Not sure how it's come out (not watched it) but it was fun. I'm also impressed with how well it looks like they "de-shined" me. It was really hot in the room and I didn't have my makeup with me. ;-)

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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    @Kebabkid yep thats me. I was doing some training with the guys and John came and said can I do a quick video. Very off the cuff and felt the pressure for sure. Not sure how it's come out (not watched it) but it was fun. I'm also impressed with how well it looks like they "de-shined" me. It was really hot in the room and I didn't have my makeup with me. ;-)
    Thanks Ross and it came out very well, for you and the HX!!! :) I believe you're a Helix user but are you using the HX at all?
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  • rossyamaharossyamaha Frets: 1717
    Kebabkid said:
    @Kebabkid yep thats me. I was doing some training with the guys and John came and said can I do a quick video. Very off the cuff and felt the pressure for sure. Not sure how it's come out (not watched it) but it was fun. I'm also impressed with how well it looks like they "de-shined" me. It was really hot in the room and I didn't have my makeup with me. ;-)
    Thanks Ross and it came out very well, for you and the HX!!! :) I believe you're a Helix user but are you using the HX at all?
    Thanks mate. Very kind of you. Yeah used Helix for a couple of years now and love it. Haven't got an HX yet but have one coming. I'll be using it a little different. More on that when it arrives and my new board is wired up! Long story short, it's going to be the ultimate utility pedal. 

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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    edited June 7
    Tried one today and did the same sort of thing as Ross did in the vid, but from memory and used my ears as my own board wasn't there, but quite a few of my pedals and variants are modelled in the HX. It was simple, intuitive and sounded good and I got in the same ball park as my board - 
    Keeley Comp/Keeley TS808/WY Pork Loin/Xotic EP Boost/OCD/Catalinbread Boost/Zoom MS-70CDR/TC Flashback

    What was fun were the routing and set-up options. Whilst I kept to the above pedal order, I do keep my compressor on all the time but with this, there isn't a need to assign it to a pedal (you can do this with anything like a noise gate, generic reverb etc) and so that's on in the background. That was handy but then I was also able to assign my most used on/off fx/pedals to other, more convenient switches nearer my feet.

    The Snapshots were also great where you can set-up different settings for the same pedal or possibly choose something like a different wah or Q for rhythm and lead or assign a boost, lead and delay to one switch for your lead sound and maybe a crunch and reverb for your rhythm sound. As I said, it's very intuitive.

    My only slight grumble was I noticed some noise from the unit, even with pedals off and so I'm not sure if this was one of the earlier batch where this was a recognised issue but bottom-line, I'll probably be getting one in the future, but still keeping my board. Oh, and there's bass effects, too, which is handy as I have that to deal with as well.

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  • hubobuloushubobulous Frets: 2062
    I thought the Peach video was excellent and a refreshing change to the standard reviews. Really well handled under the pressure @rossyamaha and some of those sounds will be making their way to my Helix as starting points. Thanks for doing it
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 5567
    @Kebabkid yep thats me. I was doing some training with the guys and John came and said can I do a quick video. Very off the cuff and felt the pressure for sure. Not sure how it's come out (not watched it) but it was fun. I'm also impressed with how well it looks like they "de-shined" me. It was really hot in the room and I didn't have my makeup with me. ;-)

    I loved Jack's "Don't touch me..." comment when you touched his knee...very funny
    "...I can hear you breathing down the hall"
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 11896
    @Kebabkid yep thats me. I was doing some training with the guys and John came and said can I do a quick video. Very off the cuff and felt the pressure for sure. Not sure how it's come out (not watched it) but it was fun. I'm also impressed with how well it looks like they "de-shined" me. It was really hot in the room and I didn't have my makeup with me. ;-)

    I loved Jack's "Don't touch me..." comment when you touched his knee...very funny
    Heh...by the sounds of it, the other guys at Peach thought that was hilarious :D
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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 533
    Good video! I want a HX effects but I’m worried about getting a noisy unit!
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  • rossyamaharossyamaha Frets: 1717
    Good video! I want a HX effects but I’m worried about getting a noisy unit!
    Pretty sure that’s sorted now. 

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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 1540
    Caved in and bought one :)
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    John_A  let us know how you get on

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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 1540
    Kebabkid said:
    John_A  let us know how you get on

    Pretty much know how I'll get on as already have a Helix, mainly use the Helix live, but when/if I do take an amp out it'll be a nice compact alternative.  Really didn't need it, but thought I might as well ;). The difference between the Helix and my analogue board (what's left of it) is negligible to nothing in terms of quality, but it's light years ahead in flexibility and getting rid of Velcro and patch leads is heaven!
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  • sweepysweepy Frets: 1857
     Even though I have an FX8 I’ll probably still buy one ! It’s a disease I tell ya ;)
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    Does anyone know if the HX can drop the tuning e.g. to Eb? I believe the Helix can via its pitchshifters/pitch wham (that's in the HX), but wondered if it can do it on this?
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 11896
    Kebabkid said:
    Does anyone know if the HX can drop the tuning e.g. to Eb? I believe the Helix can via its pitchshifters/pitch wham (that's in the HX), but wondered if it can do it on this?
    It could, but you wouldn't want to use it that way - the tracking isn't very good. I was hoping they'd address that in 2.6, but apparently not...it will definitely be coming in a later update though.
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    edited June 15
    Thanks Lee @digitalscream - it will be a handy one if it can do it as well as some of the other brand Drop Tune products out there but promising if it is on the horizon
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  • hubobuloushubobulous Frets: 2062
    Variable can help too though I realise that’s an extreme solution!!
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    Variable can help too though I realise that’s an extreme solution!!
    Do you mean 'Variax' @hubobulous? If so, I can see on forums that is what some people have done.
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    @rossyamaha - any idea on the tuning down point. Also, if you own a Helix, can you import/copy some of those sounds to the HX? Yep, I know there aren't amps, simulators etc in the HX and there might not be the same level of parameters, buttons etc but in principle, and for some core sounds, could you do it? I believe you can from Helix Native to Helix.

    Cheers
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  • rossyamaharossyamaha Frets: 1717
    Kebabkid said:
    @rossyamaha - any idea on the tuning down point. Also, if you own a Helix, can you import/copy some of those sounds to the HX? Yep, I know there aren't amps, simulators etc in the HX and there might not be the same level of parameters, buttons etc but in principle, and for some core sounds, could you do it? I believe you can from Helix Native to Helix.

    Cheers
    For tuning down (at least for now) I would say get hold of a Digitech Drop. It's going to give you better results. I'm out of the loop as far as whats happening with new models/ pitch stuff so couldn't say for certain but as has been confirmed, it;'s being worked on. 

    As far as copying sounds from Helix to HX, unfortunately no you can't. Hopefully there will be an easy way to copy and paste when HX Edit supports HXFX. Again, don't know yet but I would hazard a guess at no. 

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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    Thanks @rossyamaha for clarifying and the prompt response :)
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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 533
    Probably going to cave when Andertons get their next batch in (new batch so hopefully working well).
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  • vasselmeyervasselmeyer Frets: 2334
    Damn it. If just watched the video where @rossyamaha recreates a high end pedalboard. I've got a carefully curated board of pedals based around a BOSS ES-8 that I have settled on over the years. I'm now scared to even count the total value of that board. I'm also convinced that the new Line 6 unit could easily replace that board. It would also weigh about a tenth of what the flightcased board comes in at.
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  • hubobuloushubobulous Frets: 2062
    Yeah, that Peach video was excellent. I have a Helix which I love and since buying it, I've only settled on keeping a few pedals, (Arpanoid, Happiness, Meris stuff, H9), that offer something different. The Line6 units really are high quality in terms of effects and the Peach video is a proper review that I think will resonate with a lot of pedal fans.
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  • Digital_IglooDigital_Igloo Frets: 234
    rossyamaha said: As far as copying sounds from Helix to HX, unfortunately no you can't. Hopefully there will be an easy way to copy and paste when HX Edit supports HXFX. Again, don't know yet but I would hazard a guess at no. 
    Not with 2.60, but eventually, yes.
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  • redrighthandredrighthand Frets: 676
    edited June 23
    Have got myself one of these and am enjoying trying out the various different pedals into my AC15.  Still working my way through the drives. The fact you can edit parameters which the switches while playing rather than having to lean town and fiddle with the knobs makes it super easy to audition the various different models. Loads of fun.

    Interesting to compare the legacy and new models of the same pedal. The Valve Driver which is the HX model of a Chandler sounds pretty rubbish to my ears, and did on the Helix Floor I used to have. Yet the Tube Drive which is the legacy model of the same pedal sounds totally different and really great.

    Struggling to get as good a noise from the OCD model as I’ve heard on demos.
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  • mattismetalmattismetal Frets: 46

    I've been watching this thread after getting one of these early on, being really impressed and then exasperated with noise and returning it.

    Does anyone know what the issue was with the noise and has it really been solved?

    I really liked this unit and am thinking of getting another if the issues are dealt with

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