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This new series by Rick Beato is so good that I thought it deserved a thread all of it's own !

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    edited February 26
    INDEX

    1. Blink -182
    2. The Police
    3. Steely Dan
    4. Nirvana
    The Beatles Secrets Revealed
    Q&A and Suggestions
    5. Pearl Jam
    The Recipe Of A Hit Song
    6. Linkin Park
    Why is ‘’Uptown Funk’’ so Catchy?
    7. Tom Petty
    Q&A on episodes 1-7
    8. A Perfect Circle
    T.E. My Life As A One-Man Band
    9. Toto
    10. Soundgarden

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    Blink -182

    One of the biggest hits of the late 90's by Blink 182.


    Duration 8:28
    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU--X0pC12o

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    The Police

    One of the biggest hits of the early 80's by The Police.


    Duration 18:33
    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZavJLr5Otq4

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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 2477
    The Police

    One of the biggest hits of the early 80's by The Police.


    Duration 18:33
    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZavJLr5Otq4
    that was interesting 
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  • Thanks Chris, I'm teaching someone the Blink 182 song at the moment and had no idea about the octave synth part until now. My ears really are shite 
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  • pmbombpmbomb Frets: 140
    His videos are great but the one on Won't Back Down was really "what makes the arrangement and production great". It's not about song writing.
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  • mixolydmixolyd Frets: 330
    pmbomb said:
    His videos are great but the one on Won't Back Down was really "what makes the arrangement and production great". It's not about song writing.
    Yes I really like these videos for entertainment value but they are much less educational in theory terms than Ricks usual output which is truly stellar.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2531
    Thanks Chris, I'm teaching someone the Blink 182 song at the moment and had no idea about the octave synth part until now. My ears really are shite 
    If you listened to it on you in-ear buds, you will miss a lot of the low frequency detail like synths. Even if played through a decent hi-fi system, a lowish bitrate looses a lot of this information. Which is why I find that I need to listen to the CD or a FLAC rip to fully hear and understand what the band were up to in the studio. YMMV of course.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • If I'm honest Rocker it's via spotify on my phone out of the inbuilt speakers - it's not ideal but I'm a bit limited as its work related in a hospital with very limited equipment. It's a good point though,  I'll give it a proper listen at home 
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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    edited February 18
    Cheers guys, I am pleased the series is going down well.  I think they are more accessible to more people than his in depth theory ones, which as @mixolyd so rightly says, are truly stellar.  Hopefully it will encourage people who are less theory oriented to find a path to greater knowledge by exploring more of Rick's "stellar" video output.

    Don't worry about your ears being shite @DrCornelius , sounds to me more like equipment limitation
    Glad the Blink 182 one was useful and appropriate right now, good timing is not usually one of my strong suites !

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  • spark240spark240 Frets: 841
    The Toto one is great !


    Mac Mini i7, 2.3Ghz.
    Presonus Studio One Pro.
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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    Cheers @spark240 , I haven't got that far yet.  It keeps popping up on my YT feed, so I am looking forward to checking it out, thanks for your recommendation, massive Lukather and Toto fan here.  I will post it on here later too, along with all the others...  :)

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  • I love this stuff. All the Small Things is one of the all time classics of its era. So simple and completely brilliant (while also actually quite complex if you get into the theory). 

    Though it adds to my argument that people shouldn't worry about theory and worry about what sounds good. You can bet they weren't in the studio saying "let's add a flat 9 octave part and create dissonance against the guitar chords". They just came up with it as meat to beef up the choruses and it sounded good and that's the important thing.
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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    edited February 19
    Steely Dan

    One of the biggest hits of the 1970's by Steely Dan.

    This episode on Kid Charlemagne also has it's own thread linked below, there is a post with the YT video of the making of Aja (Classic Albums documentary) in that thread, which is very interesting too, and well worth watching.


    Duration 17:48
    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKIC9zbSJoE


    http://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/124395/steely-dan-kid-charlemagne#latest

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    Oops, the Steely Dan video is now working, sorry about the https: //blah/blah/blah stuff...

    Trade secret...
    That's why I post the video link below the video itself, with a space after the https: so that it doesn't register as a link properly to the forum software.  That allows anyone to access the video via the address bar, and for me to easily fix this sort of (self inflicted) problem.  Copy, paste, delete the space, and the universal balance returns to normal, SNAFU  


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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    Trade secret part II...

    When you just see the picture instead of the video, which usually happens after someone has edited a post, and also happens if you save a draft of your own post, as I did with the Steely Dan video, then you can use copy and paste in the address bar to reconstruct the proper YT address:

    Copy image address for the pic, use the 11 character ‘file identifier’ (xKIC9zbSJoE in the case of the Steely Dan video above) from the image address and paste in after after the = sign using the YT video address below.

    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=

    (without the space obviously (as in the post above))

    Hope that makes sense ?!?


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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    Nirvana


    Duration 35:08
    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYdz55Oh1H8

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    edited February 20
    The Beatles Secrets Revealed ~ How to Play Songs of the Beatles
    "Norwegian Wood", "Here comes the Sun", "Strawberry Fields Forever" 

     not part of the current series, but worth posting it here I think, also see the linked thread below...


    Duration 15:15
    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMdvjbjzfDs


    And a very good program analysing the Beatles in the thread here >>>

    "how the beatles rescued western music"
    http://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/100565/how-the-beatles-rescued-western-music#latest

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    edited February 20
    ^^^ F**k me, so I did   o

    How did that happen !
    I am prone to the odd typo or  too  two.  I even copy and pasted the web address and then deleted the - symbols, so no actual typing.
    Probably  autoerrect  autocorrect.  (corrected now, anyhoo)
    It's a dog eat dog world  ;)
    Bloody amusing though, made me laugh, cheers  D 

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    edited February 21
    ^^^ I'm not sure that they actually rescued western music, but there is an Essex band, and another in Eastbourne, called...
    The Beagles,
    "Professional four piece band playing songs from the The Eagles and Beatles".

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    What Makes This Song Great?  ~  Q&A and Suggestions
    Rick's 400th Video!!


    Duration 36:43
    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=bayP_dQxPnk

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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    Pearl Jam

    One of the biggest songs of the Grunge Era.


    Duration 17:35
    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=usRmxyGruWI

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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 17754
    Love the analysis of ‘Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic’. Loved that song the first time I heard it and bought the single immediately. Amazing something that’s quite ‘difficult’ harmonically can sound so accessible. Sting may have become irritating later in his career - but his pop sensibility on that song is genius.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 667
    edited February 24
    There is a lot of good "educational" stuff on the internet if you look for it.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 667
    edited February 25
    Another resource for deconstructing the theory being songs is the HookTheory website.

    https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab
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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 2281
    Wonderful thread, I went straight to the Steely Dan breakdown, but will look at all these. A fountain of knowledge here.

    Oi! @Kebabkid you will definitely appreciate this :)
    I am the Funk of 40000 years
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 667
    edited February 25
    Blink -182

    One of the biggest hits of the late 90's by Blink 182.
    Found the stems to this online, and I've mapped them all out into the various song sections in my DAW. There are some good ideas in here, some of which I've never noticed before.
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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    Thanks for your posts @Freebird , and the Hook Theory link.

    Any chance you could post a link to the stems ?

    That is something I have yet to explore, good call, and an exciting next step for me to explore the whole recording process again (I used to be a dab hand with 2" tape and a razor blade!).  I am sure a few others on here would benefit from that too.  Glad you're enjoying the content in this thread  :)


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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1114
    Can't go wrong with a bit of Steely Dan @Bellycaster :)

    @richardhomer makes a good point about harmonically difficult music having the ability to be accessible, and interesting.  Oh, and Sting being irritating too  ;)

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