Tap Tempo Tremolo

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kswilson89kswilson89 Frets: 70
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Any suggestions for a tremolo pedal with tap tempo? The Dawner Prince and Diamond offerings seem pretty good. Any others I should be aware of? Is there any drawbacks of using a trem pedal in comparison to tube trem on an amp?
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  • djspecialistdjspecialist Frets: 386
    I really like my Rolo Twin Peaks.
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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2258
    Any suggestions for a tremolo pedal with tap tempo? The Dawner Prince and Diamond offerings seem pretty good. Any others I should be aware of? Is there any drawbacks of using a trem pedal in comparison to tube trem on an amp?
    Not really, I suppose with a bias trem the amp is almost stalling on the trough's of the wave, so the low part of the cycle may be quieter than that of a pedal, which would retain the amp's noise, being that only the input signal is changing amplitude.
    But I doubt this matters much in a live environment.

    I have trem on my Princeton but often use the trems from the Helix so I can vary between fast and slow and also I can hit the footswitch easier (I hate the little Fender vintage style footswitches)


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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 5932
    Empress tremolo 1 or 2.
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  • simonksimonk Frets: 1133
    Suhr Jack Rabbit
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  • BeexterBeexter Frets: 302
    simonk said:
    Suhr Jack Rabbit
    +1
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  • Stone Deaf Tremotron. Not cheap but with a load of features if you want them and i think it won quite a few accolades
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  • rossyamaharossyamaha Frets: 1681
    Wampler Latitude is supposed to be awesome.

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  • VJIvesVJIves Frets: 209
    I love my Zvex Sonar very much, but there's also the Johnny Rock Wave Rider which is great.
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  • noisepolluternoisepolluter Frets: 175
    edited March 5
    Empress tremolo 1 or 2.
    +1.
    The Empress uses a light dependent resistor to generate the effect, similar to the trem circuit in a Deluxe Reverb. I use one of these amps and spent some time comparing the Empress (on ‘tube’ mode) with the amp trem, and found the pedal sounded much better. It does that throbby sound perfectly, with no background noise/ticking, far more range of speed and depth, and is vastly more versatile as it’s also got triangle and square waveforms, various tap subdivisions, rhythm patterns, speed ‘ramping’, memory presets (V2 only I think, correct me if I’m wrong)... pretty much everything is tweakable including choice of true bypass or buffer and amount of preset boost. 

    I think the Diamond has a very similar feature set and is similarly powered by an opto ‘bug’ - I just went for the Empress because it was in a January sale but I’m sure would have been equally happy with the diamond.
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  • GulliverGulliver Frets: 441
    I would 100% recommend the Empress Tremolo.  When I was searching for a tremolo I was torn between the Empress and the Suhr Jack Rabbit

    I went with the Empress because it can be tap-tempo'd while off, which I couldn't figure out how to do on the Suhr.   That said, I can't remember the last time I needed to tap-tempo the trem.  I do also like being about to use it as a boost with the gain all the way up and the depth all the way down.
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  • menamestommenamestom Frets: 2258


    What about a Strymon Flint and favourite switch?

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  • Pete24vPete24v Frets: 223
    I have a T Rex pedal with tap trem, it sounds great and works as it should.
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  • ragingbenragingben Frets: 44
    I really like my Rolo Twin Peaks.
    That looks awesome. I'm in the market for a trem myself but the jack placement is awful - you can't fit right angled jacks in next to the power supply unless it's going on a pedal train or similar. 
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  • Moe_ZambeekMoe_Zambeek Frets: 2311
    VJIves said:
    I love my Zvex Sonar very much, but there's also the Johnny Rock Wave Rider which is great.
    +1 on the Sonar, it’s an amazing pedal. I really love mine.
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  • kswilson89kswilson89 Frets: 70
    Empress tremolo 1 or 2.
    +1.
    The Empress uses a light dependent resistor to generate the effect, similar to the trem circuit in a Deluxe Reverb. I use one of these amps and spent some time comparing the Empress (on ‘tube’ mode) with the amp trem, and found the pedal sounded much better. It does that throbby sound perfectly, with no background noise/ticking, far more range of speed and depth, and is vastly more versatile as it’s also got triangle and square waveforms, various tap subdivisions, rhythm patterns, speed ‘ramping’, memory presets (V2 only I think, correct me if I’m wrong)... pretty much everything is tweakable including choice of true bypass or buffer and amount of preset boost. 

    I think the Diamond has a very similar feature set and is similarly powered by an opto ‘bug’ - I just went for the Empress because it was in a January sale but I’m sure would have been equally happy with the diamond.
    That's interesting, I always assumed that tube based trem would sound more 'organic' than any pedal based trem . maybe my assumption is way off!
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  • LebarqueLebarque Frets: 835
    Cusack Tap a whirl?
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  • noisepolluternoisepolluter Frets: 175
    edited March 5
    Empress tremolo 1 or 2.
    +1.
    The Empress uses a light dependent resistor to generate the effect, similar to the trem circuit in a Deluxe Reverb. I use one of these amps and spent some time comparing the Empress (on ‘tube’ mode) with the amp trem, and found the pedal sounded much better. It does that throbby sound perfectly, with no background noise/ticking, far more range of speed and depth, and is vastly more versatile as it’s also got triangle and square waveforms, various tap subdivisions, rhythm patterns, speed ‘ramping’, memory presets (V2 only I think, correct me if I’m wrong)... pretty much everything is tweakable including choice of true bypass or buffer and amount of preset boost. 

    I think the Diamond has a very similar feature set and is similarly powered by an opto ‘bug’ - I just went for the Empress because it was in a January sale but I’m sure would have been equally happy with the diamond.
    That's interesting, I always assumed that tube based trem would sound more 'organic' than any pedal based trem . maybe my assumption is way off!
    I also had an Electro Harmonix Wiggler pedal for a while, which had TWO tubes sticking out of it... there were some amazing sounds in there but literally everything about it was bloody awkward and infuriating. Huge, noisy, made other pedals switch noisily (and just seemed to hate other pedals generally), enormous non-substitutable power supply...

    I digress. I remember trying a Vox AC30 that had a switchable tremolo/vibrato circuit which sounded fantastic.

    The Deluxe Reverb trem does sound great once the amp’s turned up a bit (maybe with the power tubes fattening the sound a bit) though you still have to put up with background noise and perceived volume drop. 

    I think I’d heard so much about valve amp trems being the holy grail that when I finally got to try a few, most of them didn’t live up to it. Pedal based ones are just getting better and better.
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  • WazmeisterWazmeister Frets: 3874
    Ive tried many many trems...

    And Ive recently returned to the Diamond. Like all Diamond stuff, it is superbly made and is tuned by someone with ‘good ears’, as it seems perfect as a trem.

    Simple to use, with a great tap tempo. It just doesnt seem to get lost in the mix like some do. 

    Mine is a custom built model in black, and is lush. My recommendation...
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  • GadgetGadget Frets: 572
    I think, therefore.... I... ummmm........
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  • Col_DeckerCol_Decker Frets: 2186
    Another vote for the Diamond. Mine has been the only constant on my board for the last 8 years.

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  • cLepto-basscLepto-bass Frets: 6
    I ended up opting for the EHX Super Pulsar. It's the only tremolo pedal most people would ever need. Probably a bit overkill for my use but can't bring myself to sell it on. 
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  • kswilson89kswilson89 Frets: 70
    edited March 7
    Thanks for the replies everyone, some great suggestions. Has anyone tried the Surfy Industries SurfyTrem? Although its not tap tempo its all analog and sounds great to me from the couple of YouTube vids I've watched.
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 9374
    I don't suppose anyone here's tried them as they're not a big company, but the Westminster Luther Tap Tremolo sounds really good based on the couple of youtube videos that exist
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  • StuartMac290StuartMac290 Frets: 608
    Of all the ones I've tried the Fulltone Supatrem 2 is the most amp-like. I really love it. 
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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 5932
    If you want a nice basic tremolo then the j.rad josh smith one is great. Sounds lovely and is switchable between two settings, which is very useful.
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