Cheap bass from Thomann?

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John_PJohn_P Frets: 1527
Just thinking out loud but if anyone has any thoughts - I could do with a cheap back up bass for some dep gigs coming up and the band play half the set in Eb (don’t ask me why).  

I need to order some speaker covers from thomann this week so if I don’t see a used bass for sale I might as well spend a bit more and get free postage. 

HB precision?     Is a Squier noticeably better?     Sire?   
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    I tried one of the Affinity Precisions and it was far too good for the money. 
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2806
    • What bass guitar do you normally play? 
    • What sort of bass sounds does the dep gig demand? 
    • How inexpensive do you need the Eb instrument to be?
    • What version of the Hipshot D-Tuner device would your current bass guitar require?
    I fear the Geeks, even when they bear GIFs.
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  • WhitecatWhitecat Frets: 1566
    Really liked the Yamaha BB series for not much dosh. Very versatile sound, easy to play and very well-built. Difficult to go wrong with Yamaha on the "low end" (ba-dump-chssst)
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  • bingefellerbingefeller Frets: 5397
    What about a Digitech Drop Pedal instead?
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  • ash96ash96 Frets: 52
    The sire's are great great basses for the money. I've got the cheaper of the 2 models (but the 5 string version) which is Alder i beliver rather than Ash and it blows the mim fender I had before out the water.
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  • funkyfrazfunkyfraz Frets: 55
    edited March 5
    I had the hb jazz copy. Heavy as fuck but played very well!  Gigged it numerous times. Only got rid because I realised I didn't need so many basses! 
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  • John_PJohn_P Frets: 1527
    Thanks chaps,  some useful comments there.  
    I use a Geddy Lee jazz and it’s been a few years since I had a spare bass which has been on my list to sort.   
    To contrast with the jazz I was debating a precision or a stingray, a sire or one of the older bass collection models - maybe a 5 string.   

    I notice they are about to get a new cheaper v3 version of the sire basses so unless a bargain used bass appears over the next week that would be top of the list for now.  
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  • I had one of their 51 style P-basses. It was excellent for the money, a couple of rough frets and and pots that were "on or off" but perfectly playable. 
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 8886
    I got a *very* cheap bass for the 100 quid challenge a few years back. I was branded Harrier or something, but likely the same factory as what is now branded HB.

    It got better with a new bridge and wiring but it was great out of the box for sub-50 quid.
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  • jakzekjakzek Frets: 53
    John_P said:
    Thanks chaps,  some useful comments there.  
    I use a Geddy Lee jazz and it’s been a few years since I had a spare bass which has been on my list to sort.   
    To contrast with the jazz I was debating a precision or a stingray, a sire or one of the older bass collection models - maybe a 5 string.   

    I notice they are about to get a new cheaper v3 version of the sire basses so unless a bargain used bass appears over the next week that would be top of the list for now.  

    If you fancy a cheap stingray and are anywhere near the West Midlands, I’ve got one of the old OLP stingrays in black that I never use and would let it go for £100. In good nick for the age, just needs new strings and a bit of contact cleaner on the electrics. Been collecting dust for a while as I no longer play bass.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 729
    edited March 6
    Have a look on the Bass Chat forum, always loads of good used gear on offer at fair prices. I think bass players flip their gear more than we do! A great bunch of lads over there too, they helped me to find the perfect bass.

    https://www.basschat.co.uk/forum/19-basses-for-sale/
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  • John_PJohn_P Frets: 1527
    jakzek said:
    John_P said:
    Thanks chaps,  some useful comments there.  
    I use a Geddy Lee jazz and it’s been a few years since I had a spare bass which has been on my list to sort.   
    To contrast with the jazz I was debating a precision or a stingray, a sire or one of the older bass collection models - maybe a 5 string.   

    I notice they are about to get a new cheaper v3 version of the sire basses so unless a bargain used bass appears over the next week that would be top of the list for now.  

    If you fancy a cheap stingray and are anywhere near the West Midlands, I’ve got one of the old OLP stingrays in black that I never use and would let it go for £100. In good nick for the age, just needs new strings and a bit of contact cleaner on the electrics. Been collecting dust for a while as I no longer play bass.
    A shame you aren’t closer or I’d have been very tempted.   I always fancied the Tony levin 5 string version of the olp. 
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 5199
    Ibanez TMB100 is the correct answer but looks like Thomann are out of stock. 
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 540
    Get one of those Squier 70s jazz basses in natural (maple neck with blocks) that are aaaalways for sale on eBay. 
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  • Andyjr1515Andyjr1515 Frets: 1658
    Both Squier and HB are usually both pretty stunning value for money. 

    A Squier's pickups won't be the best, but it will be eminently upgradable (like the rest of the hardware, etc) if you wanted to do that in the future.  The Harley Bentons are generally unbelievable value for the money but can be quite (or very) heavy.


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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2806
    John_P said:
     I always fancied the Tony Levin 5 string version of the OLP. 
    Why? The only good things about that model were the retail price and the paint job. The Sterling-By-Musicman S.U.B. series is infinitely better.

    John_P said:
    I use a Geddy Lee jazz and it’s been a few years since I had a spare bass which has been on my list to sort.  
    It might be wiser to put the money that you propose to spend on a budget "spare" bass guitar towards upgrades for your Fender. Pickups, D-Tuner et cetera.
    I fear the Geeks, even when they bear GIFs.
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  • speshul91speshul91 Frets: 1297
    Have you looked at the cheaper ibanez stuff, I picked a gsr200sm up brand new for 180. Changed the strings on it and its been perfect. 
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 862
    John_P said:
     I always fancied the Tony Levin 5 string version of the OLP. 
    Why? The only good things about that model were the retail price and the paint job. The Sterling-By-Musicman S.U.B. series is infinitely better.
    I've got one of them (SUB 5) - it's got a good quality feel to it.
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2806
    The S-By-MM S.U.B. instruments are on a par with the Squier Vintage Modified series. This should comes as no surprise because they are built in the same factory, using many parts from the same bins. The week spots on the S.U.B.s are the cheap bridge, pickup and controls harness. These can easily be upgraded as funds allow.

    One overlooked instrument on the pre-owned market is the Squier VM Jaguar (full scale length version). These can sometimes be found cheaply. The version with a single *soapbar* humbucking pickup has active EQ - albeit cheap 'n' nasty. Again, upgrading would be easy.


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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 862
    This is the SUB 5 I have - it feels much more substantial than most basses...



    For under £200 it merits the phrase "no brainer".
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 862
    However, reading back to the OP, an alternative to dropping to Eb would be to invest in a set of Hipshot eXtenders (aka D-tuners).

    Normally you'd just put one on the bottom E to take it down to a D, but it'll do Eb just as easily.

    However, you could possibly (and depending upon fit) put one on each string - I think Michael Manrig has something like that to do all of his tuning variations.
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  • John_PJohn_P Frets: 1527
    Thanks for all the replies.   I’m now sorted with a cabronita I saw elsewhere - I was waiting for the new v3 model sires but the delivery date kept getting pushed back.   So I’ll probably grab a 5 when they arrive.   

    Intetesting discussion about using a detuner- I think it would mess with me head to have the low E dropped and have to find other positions to play notes on the other strings - it’s doable but when the gigs are deps where I have to learn tunes quickly and not let anyone down so I get asked back it’s a bit too risky for me.    
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2806
    John_P said:
    I think it would mess with me head to have the low E dropped and have to find other positions to play notes on the other strings.    
    It will to begin with. It does not take very long to get used to it. Then, you realise that one finger across the bottom three strings forms a chord. Wind on some overdrive, instant Sheehan-anigans. 
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  • TheGuitarWeaselTheGuitarWeasel Frets: 3037
    edited March 19
    I have a Thomann Jazz Bass copy ... bought for about sixty quid B stock a couple of years ago. Pickups were shite ... but I fixed that of course ... the instrument itself is really rather nice. Except for the headstock shape ... which looked like a horse's bell end.
    Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
    Oil City Pickups  ... The Guitar Weasel blog

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  • pintspillerpintspiller Frets: 462
    @TheGuitarWeasel you have much experience of horse bellends?
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  • TheGuitarWeaselTheGuitarWeasel Frets: 3037
    edited April 6
    @TheGuitarWeasel you have much experience of horse bellends?
    Will I have two male horses ... and they are never shy about dangling them about!
    (Their bell ends ... not Thomann Jazz basses ... hooves tend to preclude dexterity on the bass)
    Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
    Oil City Pickups  ... The Guitar Weasel blog

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  • pintspillerpintspiller Frets: 462
    I used to live in the country and a neighbour was big into horses. One of his boys had a tool as long as his legs!
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