Ivison Guitars - SC & DC Juniors

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miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4689
edited March 16 in Made in the UK
Hi fellow 'boarders!

As some of you already know, I've been a vintage Junior 'nut' for a LONG time and 18 months ago, I set about building my own vintage correct Junior for myself and, after loaning it out to a few playing pals of mine, ended up making a few more! This project has had a few false starts, mainly due to time available: I was a touring guitar tech for 15 years as well as a gigging musician myself so free time was at a premium. However, having stopped touring extensively, I now find myself with the time to pursue the project with the effort and attention to detail I expect from myself.

I have been lucky enough to own some superb vintage '50's Juniors:

a 1955 Single Cut Junior
a 1956 Single Cut TV Special
a 1957 Single Cut Junior
a 1959 Double Cut Junior &
a 1959 Double Cut TV Model

Each of these guitars has been meticulously measured and documented and I now feel I am at a point were I can build a vintage spec Single or Double Cut Junior getting as close as possible with the modern materials available that looks, sounds & feels like a vintage Junior but a player is not afraid to take out and gig.

The basic spec is: 

1 Piece African Mahogany Body
1 Piece African Mahogany Neck - Profile replicated from an original 1959 DC.
17 degree headstock angle as per the originals
Single action truss rod with maple filler strip
Indian Rosewood fingerboard
Vintage Correct 50's Celluloid dot inlays
Faber Wraparound Bridge - EXACT weight and construction as the original bridges
Faber Studs & Anchors
Either Mojo or Oil City Handwound P90
CTS Pots
Bumblebee cap
Switchcraft Jack Socket
Aged Kluson Tuners
Bone Nut
Aged Knobs
Aged Pointer Washers
Aged Strap Buttons
All plastics are cut from accurate 50's templates.
100% Nitrocellulose Finish
Aniline Dyes used where applicable.

If desired, I can add a personal serial number in the proper 50's font FOC.

If you are interested in commissioning a guitar, please don't hesitate to drop me a PM on here or at ivisonguitars@gmail.com. 

Here's a very kind review from a fellow fretboarder who purchased a guitar off me a while ago: 
http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/80611/miserneil-luthier-dc-junior

Here are a few pictures of completed guitars, I will start a thread in Making and Modding in the coming few days documenting the build process:

Here's a Single Cut TV Model (replica) I built for myself:



Incidentally, that's the tape machine that recorded Bohemian Rhapsody.... ;-)

A Double Cut TV Model:





All Gold Double Cut:



Weather Checking Detail on SC TV Model:



Weather Checking on a Cherry DC Junior (Aniline Dye which will fade just like the originals):









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  • TeyeplayerTeyeplayer Frets: 606
    That tv yellow Sc is stunning, probably couldn’t stretch to it right now (much to my regret) but wish you all the best with this next stage dude -hope I can come knocking for one of these before long.
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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4689
    Thanks very much @Teyeplayer, really appreciate that! :-) 
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  • HoodyyHoodyy Frets: 4
    Stunning work!
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  • fretfinderfretfinder Frets: 1936
    edited March 13
    Neil, now that’s just showing off! 

    Stunning work. Seriously.  B
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 4232
    Ooh, these do look very impressive.  I love the closeups of the weather checking.
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  • sawyersawyer Frets: 156
    Cool! Any more shots of the cherry one
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  • skaguitarskaguitar Frets: 342
    They look superb... the SC TV yellow has me gassing...!!

    “To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.”

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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4689
    edited March 14
    Wow! Thanks for the kind comments guys, really appreciate your support!

    sawyer said:
    Cool! Any more shots of the cherry one
    Sure! The guitar is a GSP DC Junior husk that I used to refine the cherry process (which i'll post up on the build thread). It's 100% Aniline dyes so it'll fade out just like the originals do/did and now resides with a fellow forum member:








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  • webrthomsonwebrthomson Frets: 356
    That is some very nice work - what sort of ball park are these in terms of cost?
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  • That is some very nice work - what sort of ball park are these in terms of cost?
    Me too Neil..
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  • merlinmerlin Frets: 1158
    edited March 14
    Quite brilliant Neil. The temptation is making me sore in places I didn't even know I had places....
    Only which? DC cherry? DC TV? Jeez....are you going to make SC sunbursts....?
    Whatever, I will surely die. And be skint. But happy.....


    Mine of choice would be DC cherry or sunburst SC....either way... 
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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4689
    Once again guys, thanks SO much for the kind words, I am genuinely bowled over by the nice comments and messages of support!

    And yes @merlin, I can make anything you desire....as long as it's Junior shaped! ;D

    Regarding price, I'm hoping to bring these in at £1699 with a hard case.

    Cheer, Neil
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  • Jez6345789Jez6345789 Frets: 853
    Lovely work Neil and glad to see someone championing junior repro's in the UK.
    I have to ask out of interest why African rather than Honduras I imagine price obviously or do you think its not worth the difference.  Not a criticism just a question from a junior lover LOL. 


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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4689
    edited March 15
    Lovely work Neil and glad to see someone championing junior repro's in the UK.
    I have to ask out of interest why African rather than Honduras I imagine price obviously or do you think its not worth the difference.  Not a criticism just a question from a junior lover LOL. 


    Hey @Jez6345789, not a problem to ask at all!

    Certainly availability of African Mahogany and price are a factor and I can source Honduran/Brazilian Rosewood (as an uncharge) but mainly I don't think it has that much bearing on the overall tone to be honest. To test this was lucky enough to have a 1959 DC Junior here along with a DC I make out of African Mahogany and another that was made out of Spanish Cedar. Weight as resonance wise, they were all very similar, the MAIN factor I found was down to the P90 and Bridge combination. I spent a good while trying various options including a Gibson replacement, Mojoaxe and a generic Mojoaxe copy until I found the Faber wraparound that @streethawk recommended to me. It it EXACTLY the same construction and weight as the originals and really adds to the 'ring' of a junior. 

    Exhibit A:

    1956 Gibson Wraparound Bridge



    Exhibt B:

    Faber Aluminium wraparound tailpiece



    The other main factor in the tone in quite obviously the P90. Now the very best sounding Junior I owned had a P90 that was beautiful and airy and open sounding, it was gorgeous! But it was so microphonic, it was just like having a microphone taped to the guitar! Which was great in isolation but as a gigging guitar, it was a nightmare. So after a LOT of tests and trial and error, I found 2 P90's that I REALLY rate and, low and behold, they are both from forum stalwarts, @Mojopickups and Oil City. Both exceptional pickups, great build quality, consistent tone, have a great 'bite' and clean up beautifully over others I tried. I would recommend these first unless a customer had a particular preference.

    So, hopefully this will show that i've not just chucked a load of parts together and hoped for the best, there has been a lot of thought gone into it as well as (expensive) R&D....as well as exposing my freakish Junior obsessions!!

    Hope this helps!  



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  • Jez6345789Jez6345789 Frets: 853
    No that's great info Neil and interesting to us with a weakness for the Junior World. 
    I have a Faber I am putting on a new build from GSP so be interesting to see how it sounds in comparison to a similar GSP with Gibson lightning.  Here what you say about pickups they make a lot of difference. 

    thanks for the insight something else I have to save for now LOL
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  • PlukkyPlukky Frets: 268
    Are the headstocks Gibson shaped with no logo per your cherry DC, or do you have your own shape and logo for production guitars?
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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4689
    edited March 16
    Plukky said:
    Are the headstocks Gibson shaped with no logo per your cherry DC, or do you have your own shape and logo for production guitars?
    The headstocks will be my own shape with my own logo on production guitars, yes.

    To be totally honest, it’s still such a new venture, i’m still working on a suitable logo, although I have a few ideas. I might post them up and get the assembled wisdom of the forum... 
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  • webrthomsonwebrthomson Frets: 356
    miserneil said:
    Plukky said:
    Are the headstocks Gibson shaped with no logo per your cherry DC, or do you have your own shape and logo for production guitars?
    The headstocks will be my own shape with my own logo on production guitars, yes.

    To be totally honest, it’s still such a new venture, i’m still working on a suitable logo, although I have a few ideas. I might post them up and get the assembled wisdom of the forum... 

    A great big stonking I in the middle of the headstock :)

    Love the level of detail, now that’s, err, devotion, obsession - not sure on that one either way impressive!

    The guitars look cracking too ;)

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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 4232
    miserneil said:
    Plukky said:
    Are the headstocks Gibson shaped with no logo per your cherry DC, or do you have your own shape and logo for production guitars?
    The headstocks will be my own shape with my own logo on production guitars, yes.

    To be totally honest, it’s still such a new venture, i’m still working on a suitable logo, although I have a few ideas. I might post them up and get the assembled wisdom of the forum... 
    Didn't you do one with an Ivison logo in the style of the Gibson logo, or am I imagining things?
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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4689
    Philly_Q said:
    miserneil said:
    Plukky said:
    Are the headstocks Gibson shaped with no logo per your cherry DC, or do you have your own shape and logo for production guitars?
    The headstocks will be my own shape with my own logo on production guitars, yes.

    To be totally honest, it’s still such a new venture, i’m still working on a suitable logo, although I have a few ideas. I might post them up and get the assembled wisdom of the forum... 
    Didn't you do one with an Ivison logo in the style of the Gibson logo, or am I imagining things?
    Not imagining things at all @Philly_Q ;, I certainly did, I quite like it too, thoughts from the floor?



    It was on this all gold Junior I made:



    Another option which I think would look great in theory, but which I need to try, is an inlayed coin, a nickel or a dime perhaps?
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 8875
    I like the logo on the gold one...
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  • KickTheHabitKickTheHabit Frets: 78
    edited March 16
    miserneil said:
    Philly_Q said:
    miserneil said:
    Plukky said:
    Are the headstocks Gibson shaped with no logo per your cherry DC, or do you have your own shape and logo for production guitars?
    The headstocks will be my own shape with my own logo on production guitars, yes.

    To be totally honest, it’s still such a new venture, i’m still working on a suitable logo, although I have a few ideas. I might post them up and get the assembled wisdom of the forum... 
    Didn't you do one with an Ivison logo in the style of the Gibson logo, or am I imagining things?
    Not imagining things at all @Philly_Q ;;, I certainly did, I quite like it too, thoughts from the floor?



    It was on this all gold Junior I made:



    Another option which I think would look great in theory, but which I need to try, is an inlayed coin, a nickel or a dime perhaps?

    Personally a move away from the Gibson style logo would be a good thing... I like the coin idea or maybe a seal of some kind a bit like Matt at Monty's does?
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  • LebarqueLebarque Frets: 779
    edited March 16
    Great work, @miserneil. These look mighty tasty. I've always had a little niggle in the back of my mind about a sunburst single cut. Hmmmmmm. Another vote for Ivison in the Gibson font (as long as it doesn't infringe anything). Your name is perfect for it due to the 'on' at the end. Very clever.
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  • mikem8634mikem8634 Frets: 144
    As I understand it there is a very real probability that your guitars leave Gibson's choking in the dust, just in terms of attention to detail and quality control alone, not to mention a tonne of other factors. Therefore, in my opinion, you should depart from anything redolent of the Gibson logo just to disassociate yourself from them - they deserve their own distinct identity. Fantastic work.
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  • john_rjohn_r Frets: 62
    I like the ivison logo however a coin would also look pretty good, worth trying.
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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 4689
    mikem8634 said:
    As I understand it there is a very real probability that your guitars leave Gibson's choking in the dust, just in terms of attention to detail and quality control alone, not to mention a tonne of other factors. Therefore, in my opinion, you should depart from anything redolent of the Gibson logo just to disassociate yourself from them - they deserve their own distinct identity. Fantastic work.
    Many thanks for the kind words @mikem8634 ;

    Sooo, i've just done a VERY quick test/mock up....





    I think, against the black headstock and set under the lacquer this would look REALLY cool! :)

    ....and then the custom options would be Dime, Quarter, Penny, 10p or £1....! ;)

    I think i'm sold on this....anyone else??
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  • JerkMoansJerkMoans Frets: 1299
    You could do different political ranges.  Some with a Euro, some with a pound.  Just sayin' :)
    Self-confessed Blues Lawyer
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  • mikem8634mikem8634 Frets: 144
    edited March 16

    miserneil said:


    I think, against the black headstock and set under the lacquer this would look REALLY cool!

    ....and then the custom options would be Dime, Quarter, Penny, 10p or £1....!

    I think i'm sold on this....anyone else??

    Nice. Classy. Would Ivison be on there too? I think it deserves to be.
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 4232
    miserneil said:
    mikem8634 said:
    As I understand it there is a very real probability that your guitars leave Gibson's choking in the dust, just in terms of attention to detail and quality control alone, not to mention a tonne of other factors. Therefore, in my opinion, you should depart from anything redolent of the Gibson logo just to disassociate yourself from them - they deserve their own distinct identity. Fantastic work.
    Many thanks for the kind words @mikem8634 ;

    Sooo, i've just done a VERY quick test/mock up....

    I think, against the black headstock and set under the lacquer this would look REALLY cool! :)

    ....and then the custom options would be Dime, Quarter, Penny, 10p or £1....! ;)

    I think i'm sold on this....anyone else??

    Thrupenny Bit?

    Or people could maybe provide a coin from their own birth year?

    I like it, but I also like the Ivison logo I must say.

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  • miserneil said:
    mikem8634 said:
    As I understand it there is a very real probability that your guitars leave Gibson's choking in the dust, just in terms of attention to detail and quality control alone, not to mention a tonne of other factors. Therefore, in my opinion, you should depart from anything redolent of the Gibson logo just to disassociate yourself from them - they deserve their own distinct identity. Fantastic work.
    Many thanks for the kind words @mikem8634 ;

    Sooo, i've just done a VERY quick test/mock up....





    I think, against the black headstock and set under the lacquer this would look REALLY cool! :)

    ....and then the custom options would be Dime, Quarter, Penny, 10p or £1....! ;)

    I think i'm sold on this....anyone else??
    Deffo!  
    Love this idea... what about vintage pennies or sixpences etc British craftsmanship with the US heritage..? 
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