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I'm after something that will give me usable strings, brass & piano (plus a bit of rhodes, hammond, farfisa type stuff would be great) the sounds don't have to pristine - just serviceable in a full mix. Acceptable-in-the-nineties is the quality level I'd be aiming for.

I'm no pianist and it needs to be cheap as it will be rarely used and I prefer spending money on guitars.

Ideally it will be:
- £100ish
- second hand
- off-the-boil, out-of-date, unfashionable or bulky is fine.

I have a midi keyboard and I don't mind if the solution is software, hardware, rackmount or an actual keyboard.

(I already have an EMU rackmount synth for atmospheric and syn-wavey stuff)

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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  • goldtopgoldtop Frets: 893
    Korg Taktile Triton (25/49 key versions)?

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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 778
    That looks alright, thanks #goldtop !

    I'm guessing if I got the 25 key version, I could plug my midi controller keyboard in to it if I was feeling the need for more than a couple of octaves performance range?
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  • revsorgrevsorg Frets: 384
    How are you planning to record your music?  I ask because I'm currently tinkering with Reason and Ableton Live and both have synths included in the bundle, with their primary purpose being to record music.  People talk about Reaper which is well within budget, but I don't know if it includes synths.

    If you're going for a software solution you'd want an appropriately powerful computer and an audio interface.  The advantage of a software approach would be that the sky's the limit.  Downside is it's kind of endless, and maybe requires some learning.
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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 778
    @revsorg ;Basically, I bought a Carillion computer and Cubase SL from Turnkey about 15 yrs ago - always kept the whole thing offline and solely devoted to recording, and I still use that. 

    Woefully out of date, but it serves my needs. My demands have never exceeded it's capabilities, so I've never bothered upgrading.
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  • revsorgrevsorg Frets: 384
    So the risk is that the moment you start installing new software solutions everything needs to be upgraded...
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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 778
    Yes, I'm stubbornly off-grid at the moment. I record in dungarees with a shotgun across my lap.
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  • goldtopgoldtop Frets: 893
    DannyP said:
    That looks alright, thanks #goldtop !

    I'm guessing if I got the 25 key version, I could plug my midi controller keyboard in to it if I was feeling the need for more than a couple of octaves performance range?
    Ah ... a careful read of the PDF is needed, as I think it's only got one MIDI port, and that's probably an Out.

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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3322
    I've got a Yamaha MX49 which is pretty good and also has DAW inputting capabilities I believe (I'm too thick to attempt that yet)

    Water, come drown me, I'm done

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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 778
    I've got a Yamaha MX49 which is pretty good and also has DAW inputting capabilities I believe (I'm too thick to attempt that yet)
    Looks good, but they're still going for quite a bit of money...
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3408
    edited March 14
    DannyP said:
    I already have an EMU rackmount synth for atmospheric and syn-wavey stuff. Any ideas?
    Yes. Which model, which firmware revision and which sound ROM(s) are inside it? 

    DannyP said:
    something that will give me usable strings, brass & piano (plus a bit of rhodes, hammond, farfisa type stuff would be great) the sounds don't have to pristine - just serviceable in a full mix. Acceptable-in-the-nineties is the quality level I'd be aiming for.
    You just described the E-Mu Composer, Protozoa123 and Ensoniq Halo (AKA Sounds Of The ZR76) ROM expansions. These can often be found on eBay for £100ish.
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 778
    It's an Audity 2000.
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3322
    DannyP said:
    I've got a Yamaha MX49 which is pretty good and also has DAW inputting capabilities I believe (I'm too thick to attempt that yet)
    Looks good, but they're still going for quite a bit of money...
    Blimey I just Google and eBay searched it and can see what you mean! I got mine for about £100 from Cash Converter so seems I was wire lucky there then...

    Water, come drown me, I'm done

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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3408
    DannyP said:
    It's an Audity 2000.
    Uh-oh. Those run their ROM slots on a higher voltage than the Proteus 2000 family. There were just two ROM expansion boards issued.
    1. The stock sound set that you already have.
    2. a smaller collection of additional synthetic waveforms and patch presets.
    The entire Audity 2000 sound set became the basis of the Xtreme Lead sound collection.


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  • impmannimpmann Frets: 7460
    Akai Miniak - cheap as chips and some good sounds on board
    Never Ever Bloody Anything Ever.

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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 778
    DannyP said:
    It's an Audity 2000.
    Uh-oh. Those run their ROM slots on a higher voltage than the Proteus 2000 family. There were just two ROM expansion boards issued.
    1. The stock sound set that you already have.
    2. a smaller collection of additional synthetic waveforms and patch presets.
    The entire Audity 2000 sound set became the basis of the Xtreme Lead sound collection.


    Disappointing - but great information, thanks! @funkfingers
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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 778
    impmann said:
    Akai Miniak - cheap as chips and some good sounds on board
    Another contender thanks. Looks like it's mainly keyboards then.
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  • goldtopgoldtop Frets: 893
    You might scare up a Roland JV-1010 module at that price, but I don't know how many of the bread-and-butter sounds you're looking for would be included.

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  • LuminousLuminous Frets: 207
    agree with the emu module...proteus 2000 etc.

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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3408
    By the most amazing coincidence, I own one too many E-Mu Proteus MIDI modules. 
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 778
    By the most amazing coincidence, I own one too many E-Mu Proteus MIDI modules. 
    Well, fancy that!

    With expansion pack? How much you looking for @Funkfingers ;?
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3408
    With one exception, all of my E-Mu ROM sound library expansion sticks are the Proteus 2000 family type. They will not operate in your Audity 2000. 

    If I reorganise my E-Mu ROM collection between two P2K family modules, it would free up the third module plus one Composer ROM.

    DannyP said:
    How much?
    Depends whether;
    1. you would prefer a Proteus 2000 (with manual) or the simpler 1000 (without manual).
    2. you want the rack mounting bracket "ears".
    3. you will eventually wish to house additional E-Mu ROM expansion sticks.

    The market for pre-owned E-Mu Proteus family gear is weird. Some vendors ask over one hundred quid per individual ROM expansion. Others sell a MIDI synth module with the exact same ROM expansion inside it for the same money.

    Many of the sounds that you currently produce from the Audity 2000 can be recreated in a Proteus 2000 using the Xtreme Lead ROM expansion. What cannot easily be recreated is the the behaviour of the four rotary encoders on the front panel. The Audity 2000 defaults to suit arpeggiation. Most of the P2K family are organised for more general synthesis. 


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  • Flink_PoydFlink_Poyd Frets: 2355
    Curious as to what you went for @DannyP ;
     im looking for something along these lines myself. My space is limited so would ideally be 25 or 32 key
    Nobody is guaranteed tomorrow.....


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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3408
    His forum Activity page says last visit 23rd March. I can tell you for a fact what DannyP has not bought. ;)
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • DannyP said:
     Acceptable-in-the-nineties is the quality level I'd be aiming for.


    Interestingly thats how I live my entire life. 
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  • JMP220478JMP220478 Frets: 152
    edited April 25
    if you have an ipad or an android tablet - apps galore to cover your needs 

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  • JamesOB1JamesOB1 Frets: 13
    @DannyP and @Flink_Poyd if you still looking for 90s vibe instruments you do worse than the Korg M1 plug-in. All the instruments including expansion packs for $49 usd. If you need a house piano, you need look no further.  https://korg.shop/software/korg-collection-series/korg-collection-m1.html
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  • Flink_PoydFlink_Poyd Frets: 2355
    JamesOB1 said:
    @DannyP and @Flink_Poyd if you still looking for 90s vibe instruments you do worse than the Korg M1 plug-in. All the instruments including expansion packs for $49 usd. If you need a house piano, you need look no further.  https://korg.shop/software/korg-collection-series/korg-collection-m1.html
    Cheers. I bought a Monologue last week 
    Nobody is guaranteed tomorrow.....


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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 18870
    Interested in a Roland JV1080 at £150?
    I am the juice of four limes.
    Trading Feedback

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  • valevale Frets: 1039
    edited June 5
    i appreciate that your budget is £100, & many solutions above look neat (triton i didn't know about but curious & interested), but if you can find-create the extra pennies (maybe £150) then the original microkorg is crazy fun & will easily do all & more you are asking for. & build-wise they last forever. don't worry if it's missing the vocoder mic. more useful as a price haggle thing than a vocoder.
    https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/korg-microkorg
    hofner hussie & hayman harpie. what she said...
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3416
    Get a copy of Reason on yer 'puter if you have a midi keyboard, the synths and samples are superb !
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

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