Dirt cheap rack fx

jonnyscaramangajonnyscaramanga Frets: 138
edited April 3 in FX
I was going to buy a delay pedal but I've got a spare rack slot and I've realised I can probably get more for my money with some used old rack multi-fx. Sadly it seems like rack gear isn't quite as unwanted as it was a few years back, but there still seem to be some bargains about.

It would mostly be for messing around with 80s rock silliness, so I'd normally only use delay and reverb. However, if it comes with a preamp, that would mean I could use it as a backup in case of catastrophic amp failure, which might be useful (although I do have other backup plans already).

What should I be on the hunt for? Are the Behringers clones of something better?

On my shopping list:

Boss GX700
DigiTech GSP1101 (probably more than I want to spend)
Roland GP-100
Rocktron Intellifex
Alesis Quadraverb

Any others to look at?
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 11916
    First-gen TC G-Majors are usually pretty cheap, I think (sub-£100). Effects-only, but very good.
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • First-gen TC G-Majors are usually pretty cheap, I think (sub-£100). Effects-only, but very good.
    Thanks, that's a good shout. I'd only seen them going for a lot more, but having searched eBay completed listings it seems they do sometimes sell cheap.

    Does anyone know about Lexicon units? The MPX100 seems to sell very cheap. As it's so much newer it's theoretically 'better', but I wonder if I actually want 'better' when I'm after an 80s rock tone. I don't actually know what delays and reverbs hair metal guitarists used. When I google rackmount gear, the discussion is usually about shoegaze artists.
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  • english_bobenglish_bob Frets: 2319

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • Flanging_FredFlanging_Fred Frets: 1658
    I used to have a GX700. 

    The effects were pretty decent but by today's standards, the COSM amp models were, let's be charitable here,. errr 'out-of-date', shall we say.
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 11916
    jonnyscaramanga said:

    but I wonder if I actually want 'better' when I'm after an 80s rock tone. I don't actually know what delays and reverbs hair metal guitarists used. When I google rackmount gear, the discussion is usually about shoegaze artists.
    To be honest, if you want 80s rock tones, get yourself an ADA MP-1 and a Quadraverb, and sack off the rest of your rig :D

    For what it's worth, I found that the best 80s lead tone delays I ever heard came from an old ART SGE Mach II unit. They're notorious for overheating (you need to drill holes in the casing to let them breathe), they've only got 16-bit A/D converters, and they're from a time when "shitty bypass" was the norm, but by the gods...it sounded glorious.
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • I used to have a GX700. 

    The effects were pretty decent but by today's standards, the COSM amp models were, let's be charitable here,. errr 'out-of-date', shall we say.
    I used to have a GT-5 and I didn't think the amp sims were good back then! Still, a GX700 might get me to the end of a gig in an emergency. I wouldn't ask for more than that.
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 11493
    @english_bob started writing before you put me in! Got distracted by the Post Office, children, and hot dog tacos... I LOVE TEH EASTER HOLIDAYZ!

    Sadly a lot of the rack stuff isn't dirt cheap now. Most of the ones you mention are closer to or above three figures in good condition. The best cheap rack in my view is the Yamaha SPX50D as the studio muffins don't go for them as there's guitar bits on them and it's got most of the classic Yamaha effects that people pay more for on the SPX90. The big win on this unit: Symphonic chorus (bloody awesome) and the reverse reverb. 

    So the stuff I'd look out for is Digitech. Stuff like the Studio Quad and the GSP racks. Zoom as well, look at the RFX and Zoomstudio stuff. 
    Clarity over quantity.  
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  • Flanging_FredFlanging_Fred Frets: 1658
    I used to have a GX700. 

    The effects were pretty decent but by today's standards, the COSM amp models were, let's be charitable here,. errr 'out-of-date', shall we say.
    I used to have a GT-5 and I didn't think the amp sims were good back then! Still, a GX700 might get me to the end of a gig in an emergency. I wouldn't ask for more than that.
    Well Im sure it could manage that with some judicious editing.  I seem to remember using the eq and noise gate blocks were required to get anything sounding half decent.

    The ability to switch the order of the effects blocks around was one of its strengths if I recall correctly and could yield some 'interesting' results.
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  • english_bobenglish_bob Frets: 2319
    The best cheap rack in my view is the Yamaha SPX50D as the studio muffins don't go for them as there's guitar bits on them and it's got most of the classic Yamaha effects that people pay more for on the SPX90. 

       I still wish I'd known about this about six weeks before I first read your mention of it on here. Could have had an SPX50D from my local Cash Generator for about £30.

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 11493
    @english_bob Even these have started to climb in price. Even four years ago, Ebay's completed listings would always have a few for around £30. Now the cheapest is £50, £75 to £90 seems to be in the bag, and there are fewer about as people get rid of them. 

    And as I'm browsing through racks, let's mention the Lexicon MPX1. It's a fiendish bastard of a device if you're not confident with dials and rack programming. Once you crack it, then it's a bloody awesome box of tricks. These are £100 to £150 on t'bay. 
    Clarity over quantity.  
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  • hubobuloushubobulous Frets: 2075
    I may have a Digitech Studio Quad for sale. Excellent piece of kit, but redundant now I have the Helix.
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 11493
    Hmmm. I'm really intrigued by the Zoom RFX-1000. Stereo ins and outs. The reverbs are supposed to be quite good and there's an inverse reverb. Other effects are average according to most reviews, being no better than the 505. Ebay says you can get this for under £30. 

    But wait... there's a vocoder? A proper mic input for this? And a ring modulator?  
    Clarity over quantity.  
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