Getting Apple software on "disc"?

Jez6345789

Interesting that they dont offer it preinstalled I am sure back in the day they used to give you a whole lot of options on checkout like adding more memory and then stuff you wanted preinstalling.  Suppose in these days of faster internet less and less people bothered. 

RedRabbit

TTony said:

RandallFlagg said:

Get faster ADSL

When you've worked out "how", please let OpenReach know.

@TTony I'm in a different part of the country but am also in a remote rural area getting broadband of around 2mbps and had spent a lot of time looking for alternatives.  A few months ago I happened to mention it to a couple that lives in the next village and they told me about the microwave broadband they'd had fitted.  I signed up, had it installed and am now getting 30mbps.  The folk I'm with won't be much use to you as it's limited to Derbyshire/Cheshire but it could be worth looking for something similar in your area.

Not sure where abouts in Suffolk you are but a quick Google found these people - http://www.radesystems.com/solutions/internet-connectivity

Even if they don't cover your area they may know someone who does.

octatonic

There is no way I’d buy a Mac Mini now.
Completely the wrong time and it is massively underpowered.

oaf

This can be useful(ish!)

https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac

Agree that the Mini is a bit weedy!

Re download times be glad you don't buy big orchestral VSTs (over 100GB for Spitfire Symphonic Strings if I remember correctly, with their HZ Piano coming in at 200GB). I bought Sampletekk's Rain Piano II though recently which is a fraction of the size (and sounds good) so can't help but feel that some of the huge download sizes (especially for single instruments) may be marketing lead/unnecessary...

TTony

RedRabbit said:

Not sure where abouts in Suffolk you are but a quick Google found these people - http://www.radesystems.com/solutions/internet-connectivity

Thanks for the thoughts @RedRabbit.

My "fast" broadband solution is sorted via a 4G antenna - but that comes with a monthly data cap and is reserved mainly for work.  It's not an option for that amount of download unless I split it over 3-4 months.

My standard BT service is via a long thin piece of copper.  Unlimited data, but at 2.5mbps (on a good day), I'm not even going to try downloading 60Gb of content.



Logic made sense in that my journey has been Garageband on iPad to Garageband on (old) MBA.  Logic looks very similar to Garageband, and is well supported by instruments, samples, loops, etc.  In fact, nearly 60Gb of instruments, samples, loops, etc.

Apple's refurb store *had* an 8Gb/1Tb Mac Mini, which would have made sense.  Unfortunately - or luckily - that had sold after I'd thought about it overnight.  But I thought I'd spend the extra £120-ish for a new rather than refurb machine which meant that I could spend a little time just checking the practicalities of getting Logic ... which might have defeated the whole plan.

I'm now looking at PC DAW alternatives.

PC_Dave

@TTony The chap I bought my Mac from eBay offered to install logic for me.

Just a thought....

crunchman

TTony said:

RedRabbit said:

Not sure where abouts in Suffolk you are but a quick Google found these people - http://www.radesystems.com/solutions/internet-connectivity

Thanks for the thoughts @RedRabbit.

My "fast" broadband solution is sorted via a 4G antenna - but that comes with a monthly data cap and is reserved mainly for work.  It's not an option for that amount of download unless I split it over 3-4 months.

My standard BT service is via a long thin piece of copper.  Unlimited data, but at 2.5mbps (on a good day), I'm not even going to try downloading 60Gb of content.



Logic made sense in that my journey has been Garageband on iPad to Garageband on (old) MBA.  Logic looks very similar to Garageband, and is well supported by instruments, samples, loops, etc.  In fact, nearly 60Gb of instruments, samples, loops, etc.

Apple's refurb store *had* an 8Gb/1Tb Mac Mini, which would have made sense.  Unfortunately - or luckily - that had sold after I'd thought about it overnight.  But I thought I'd spend the extra £120-ish for a new rather than refurb machine which meant that I could spend a little time just checking the practicalities of getting Logic ... which might have defeated the whole plan.

I'm now looking at PC DAW alternatives.

Reaper

It doesn't come with all the samples and plugins that Logic does, but there are plenty of third party ones available.

Funkfingers

PC_Dave said:

The chap I bought my Mac from eBay offered to install logic for me.

In whose name would the user license be?

prowla

Generally storage is in GB (gigabytes), whereas network speeds are in Gb (gigabits).

4114Effects

Reaper and a decent PC would do what you need. I run it on a PC Specialist i7 laptop i picked up second hand, which I'm willing to bet cost a whole wodge less than a mac mini. :-) 

wibble

@TTony ;Reaper is available on OS X as well. http://reaper.fm/  ; You can run it in full evaluation mode for 60 days to see how you get on with it on your current Mac before deciding which way to go.

Flink_Poyd

There's a few free options for DAW but as mentioned Reaper has an ongoing "trial mode" which ends up being a nag screen. If familiarity is the reason for Logic I'd bet there's a theme for Reaper that's pretty close but might need the odd tweak. 

https://shop.presonus.com/products/studio-one-prods/Studio-One-3-Prime

https://www.reaper.fm/purchase.php

http://www.avid.com/pro-tools-first

bingefeller

Did you get a solution for this, TT?  Were Apple kind enough to install everything for you?

TTony

bingefeller said:

Did you get a solution for this, TT?  Were Apple kind enough to install everything for you?

No.

Apple support guy sounded a little embarrassed, but but ultimately unable to sort anything.  

If I was buying an iMac or a Macbook, then they could install for me.  But not on a Mac Mini.  



So I thanked him for saving me £1000.  I'll probably revitalise/upgrade an old PC and migrate from GarageBand to a Windows option instead.

bingefeller

TTony said:

bingefeller said:

Did you get a solution for this, TT?  Were Apple kind enough to install everything for you?

No.

Apple support guy sounded a little embarrassed, but but ultimately unable to sort anything.  

If I was buying an iMac or a Macbook, then they could install for me.  But not on a Mac Mini.  



So I thanked him for saving me £1000.  I'll probably revitalise/upgrade an old PC and migrate from GarageBand to a Windows option instead.

that's a shame.  I thought Apple would have went out of their way to keep a customer, now ex-customer, happy, but it looks like I'm wrong.    

beed84

I’m sure if you went to a licsensed Apple Premium Reseller, they’d sell you a Mac Mini and install Logic for you. Maybe try Stormfront or KRCS.

57Deluxe

TTony said:

Given the the download time for me is about 2.5 days,  I think I could travel quite a distance and still find that it's the faster option.

so, you didn't download the FREE Windows 10 then???!!

people are still stuck @ 99% 2 years later - - Google !!

digitalscream

Happy to help with a broadband connection if you want to pop round @TTony (fibre @ 76mbit/s), or a Reaper tutorial. Or both, if you want.

strumjoughlamps

TTony said:

bingefeller said:

Did you get a solution for this, TT?  Were Apple kind enough to install everything for you?

No.

Apple support guy sounded a little embarrassed, but but ultimately unable to sort anything.  

If I was buying an iMac or a Macbook, then they could install for me.  But not on a Mac Mini.  



So I thanked him for saving me £1000.  I'll probably revitalise/upgrade an old PC and migrate from GarageBand to a Windows option instead.

Might be worth a look for you then. http://us.openlabs.com/stagelight/

TTony

digitalscream said:

Happy to help with a broadband connection if you want to pop round @TTony (fibre @ 76mbit/s), or a Reaper tutorial. Or both, if you want.

Cheers Lee


A Reaper tutorial might be very helpful.  It's certainly one of the likely options. 

I'm pretty much ruling OSX / Logic out at this stage.  It's not just the initial download (a friend has 300mbps fibre to his house, and he's a bit closer than you), but all the inevitable updates, and the risk that Apple will  then do something else that'll cause more grief in future.  A PC platform looks a safer bet, and probably cheaper - assuming that I can update an old machine that's currently sat here.