Police run away

Fretwired

Not sure what to make of this video ... apparently police responded to an incident. A couple of local youths threw bricks at a police car. More police arrived .. not much seems to happen. There are not many youths but the police are chased away. The police car is torched (not on the video) and the streets are taken over by the yobs ... maybe the met should recruit ex-Paras. What a load of wimps ... reports say there were about 20 youths max. Apparently local people and the youths were shocked and surprised.

PC_Dave

You’re being sarcastic, right?

guitarfishbay

So are police officers brick proof these days?

I’m not sure I fancy trying to bat away projectiles in the dark with a truncheon and no helmet when outnumbered.

Fretwired

PC_Dave said:

You’re being sarcastic, right?

No .. it's from last year but apparently there were about five of six youths throwing things and 15 hanging round and filming .. why do you think I'm being sarcastic? It's currently doing the rounds on social media. Unless I'm missing something they were hardly under attack from a mob throwing bricks or petrol bombs .. a couple of plastic bins whizzed  by that's it .. four cops run and jumped in a car being chased by five guys. No fire arms involved. Bizarre.

There are  videos of a small number of cops facing a mob down .. I've never seen police run away like that jump in car and drive away.

guitarfishbay

We can’t see what they see though in that video.

PC_Dave

Fretwired said:

PC_Dave said:

You’re being sarcastic, right?

No .. it's from last year but apparently there were about five of six youths throwing things and 15 hanging round and filming .. why do you think I'm being sarcastic? It's currently doing the rounds on social media. Unless I'm missing something they were hardly under attack from a mob throwing bricks or petrol bombs .. a couple of plastic bins whizzed  by that's it .. four cops run and jumped in a car being chased by five guys. No fire arms involved. Bizarre.

There are  videos of a small number of cops facing a mob down .. I've never seen police run away like that jump in car and drive away.

Ah, so you’re obviously the expert, and you would stay and bring law and order if you were in that position, would you?

Bellycaster

PC_Dave said:

Fretwired said:

PC_Dave said:

You’re being sarcastic, right?

No .. it's from last year but apparently there were about five of six youths throwing things and 15 hanging round and filming .. why do you think I'm being sarcastic? It's currently doing the rounds on social media. Unless I'm missing something they were hardly under attack from a mob throwing bricks or petrol bombs .. a couple of plastic bins whizzed  by that's it .. four cops run and jumped in a car being chased by five guys. No fire arms involved. Bizarre.

There are  videos of a small number of cops facing a mob down .. I've never seen police run away like that jump in car and drive away.

Ah, so you’re obviously the expert, and you would stay and bring law and order if you were in that position, would you?

Yes, that is what they are paid to do.

jonnyburgo

The Fretboards very own Steven Seagull has spoken

munckee

These are a few random officers facing a potential angry mob. Tactic would be to send in riot police to restore order. That situation to me does not look like they could restore order

Emp_Fab

I’d just get the tear gas, rubber bullets and water-cannon out.  Or the live ammo - depending on the time of the month.

BRISTOL86

I’d have gone in there

Kilgore

This kind of scenario is precisely the reason this country needs more guns. Guns for the cops, guns for the bad guys. Let them shoot it out.

Go ahead, make my day.

PC_Dave

Bellycaster said:

PC_Dave said:

Fretwired said:

PC_Dave said:

You’re being sarcastic, right?

No .. it's from last year but apparently there were about five of six youths throwing things and 15 hanging round and filming .. why do you think I'm being sarcastic? It's currently doing the rounds on social media. Unless I'm missing something they were hardly under attack from a mob throwing bricks or petrol bombs .. a couple of plastic bins whizzed  by that's it .. four cops run and jumped in a car being chased by five guys. No fire arms involved. Bizarre.

There are  videos of a small number of cops facing a mob down .. I've never seen police run away like that jump in car and drive away.

Ah, so you’re obviously the expert, and you would stay and bring law and order if you were in that position, would you?

Yes, that is what they are paid to do.

So you would risk your own safety? They are not paid to be abused, or have things thrown at them, or risk worse. They are employed to uphold the law. They have to decide whether they can do that, and not risk the safety of themselves, their colleagues, and those around them. Once again a video does not show the full story. 

jonnyburgo

Only pussies back down. FFS nobody wants to go home to their kids with a head that looks like a loaf bread thats  been in the same bag as the milk. Still if you get paid for it though you should run towards the flying bricks. It’s great when people give it the biggun online.

fandango

Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

BloodEagle

Similar attitude to those criticising the security guard who didn’t run through a hail of bullets into a recent US school shooting and exterminate the heavily armed and mental shooter - yeah what a pussy. 

musteatbrain

I’d enjoy seeing a rerun of that video if they had their riot gear on and could give them a damn good clubbing 

Bellycaster

PC_Dave said:

Bellycaster said:

PC_Dave said:

Fretwired said:

PC_Dave said:

You’re being sarcastic, right?

No .. it's from last year but apparently there were about five of six youths throwing things and 15 hanging round and filming .. why do you think I'm being sarcastic? It's currently doing the rounds on social media. Unless I'm missing something they were hardly under attack from a mob throwing bricks or petrol bombs .. a couple of plastic bins whizzed  by that's it .. four cops run and jumped in a car being chased by five guys. No fire arms involved. Bizarre.

There are  videos of a small number of cops facing a mob down .. I've never seen police run away like that jump in car and drive away.

Ah, so you’re obviously the expert, and you would stay and bring law and order if you were in that position, would you?

Yes, that is what they are paid to do.

So you would risk your own safety? They are not paid to be abused, or have things thrown at them, or risk worse. They are employed to uphold the law. They have to decide whether they can do that, and not risk the safety of themselves, their colleagues, and those around them. Once again a video does not show the full story. 

They were up for a Scrap at Orgreave, weren't they?

bodhi

You cannot possibly make a judgement based on that video footage alone.

I see police officers withdrawing for their own safety, and perhaps even to calm the situation down, probably following orders to that effect from someone higher up.

There's nothing wrong with that.  It's only in the movies where the good guys win while outnumbered and outgunned.

Make a tactical withdrawal, reassess, regroup, assemble a force which overwhelmingly stacks the odds against your opponent and in your own favour, then re-engage.

Heartfeltdawn

Bellycaster said:

They were up for a Scrap at Orgreave, weren't they?

How on earth is Orgreave even relevant to this situation? It's like seeing a bunch of anti-war Germans protesting and going "Yeah, but look how they treated Poland". 

Fretwired

bodhi said:

You cannot possibly make a judgement based on that video footage alone.

No you can't. As I said above there were comments on FB by people who were there ....

According to the FB post from where I got the vid there was not a mob; no bricks, petrol bombs or knives were used. Youths threw plastic bottles, maybe a glass bottle and some bins. Listen to the soundtrack and you can hear that it's not some large baying mob. The cops run and are chased by a handful of youths - that's clearly on the video. Again no weapons .. the person posting the vid was there (presumably they took the vid). Never made the press and apparently no arrests made.

I just find it odd that's all. The comments on FB were less than complimentary.

Contrast that to the cop who took on a team of tooled up jewel thieves single handedly in London - he had balls of steel. They were armed with hammers and baseball bats.