Dating a Stripped Telecaster Body

guitars4you

newi123 said:

designerseye88 said:

Took a quick glimpse of this headline and came here for dating advice on strippers. I was a little disappointed ...

Me too! 

In my own personal experience, strippers are way more fun that telecasters.............

depends if the stripper looks as old and worn as this Tele - Would much prefer to see a stripper with a D.O.B from the last few years of the nineties

peteri

And so it starts

ESBlonde

The edge looks a little sharp here compared to the other edges. Was it sanded hard?
https://imgur.com/Mxzu2Ab
I know Teles have a sharp edge around the plate but can't remember if it stretches all around the cutaway at that time and I'm away from my reference books just now.

Hattigol

I just read the headline of this discussion and thought, wow, there are some weird people around....

guitars4you

ESBlonde said:

The edge looks a little sharp here compared to the other edges. Was it sanded hard?

possibly and always hard to fully clarify - that period would have had a fullerplast base coat, so to take it down to natural, then chances are it would have had some serious rubbing down anyway

IvisonGuitars

Dealers Description:

Fender Telecaster 1966, all original aside from stripped finish, replaced nut and high E tuner replaced. Electronics were wired as 50's spec, has been rewired professional back to the original spec with the original parts. Possible re-wind on the bridge pickup. Neck dates to April 1966.

peteri

well found sir!

guitars4you

miserneil said:

Dealers Description:

Fender Telecaster 1966, all original aside from stripped finish, replaced nut and high E tuner replaced. Electronics were wired as 50's spec, has been rewired professional back to the original spec with the original parts. Possible re-wind on the bridge pickup. Neck dates to April 1966.

great two words  'aside from' - I'm sure he is not offering any misleading info as it appears as though he is upfront about many features etc - But I do struggle with 'all original aside from' followed by an extensive list of non-original and that is only based on what is stated and not what we have additional gathered

Additional pics still required as we  have all mentioned earlier/above

WezV

I don’t think you can say anything for definite from those pics. There is nothing to rule out an original body just yet

  I had similar thoughts about the sharpness of edges and the ferrules.... but those could easily be a symptom of the Refin.

ICBM

miserneil said:

Dealers Description:

Fender Telecaster 1966, all original aside from stripped finish, replaced nut and high E tuner replaced. Electronics were wired as 50's spec, has been rewired professional back to the original spec with the original parts. Possible re-wind on the bridge pickup. Neck dates to April 1966.

Original spec *is* the 50s circuit, for a '66 Tele. It didn't change to the 'modern' circuit until late 1967.

That said, all bar a tiny minority of players will want the 'modern' circuit.

streethawk

It's pretty ugly in parts, multi piece body and whatnot. If you were going to fake the body you'd probably choose a more enticing lump of wood.   

I vote... Maybe. 

IvisonGuitars

Any more juicy gut shots to share @peteri ??

peteri

Want a funny story?

I emailed the shop over night and they emailed me at 10:10 this morning saying it sold first thing this morning.

Given that the shop only opened at 10, I'm slightly dubious in that - wondering if it ever existed!

Strat54

My wife just asked why I was reading an article about Dating A Stripper.....perish the thought 

JerkMoans

peteri said:

Want a funny story?

I emailed the shop over night and they emailed me at 10:10 this morning saying it sold first thing this morning.

Given that the shop only opened at 10, I'm slightly dubious in that - wondering if it ever existed!

Sounds slightly rum.  The market for such artefacts must be reasonably limited.  One might imagine the seller could be a member or keen reader of this very forum...

peteri

Indeed!

This is actually the second time this has happened with the same shop now I come to think of it

Voxman

The body shape might tell you it's not 'vintage' (i.e. confirm a negative) but without a paint finish I can't see there's any way you can be sure that it is positively from the year described.

Voxman

ICBM said:

miserneil said:

Dealers Description:

Fender Telecaster 1966, all original aside from stripped finish, replaced nut and high E tuner replaced. Electronics were wired as 50's spec, has been rewired professional back to the original spec with the original parts. Possible re-wind on the bridge pickup. Neck dates to April 1966.

Original spec *is* the 50s circuit, for a '66 Tele. It didn't change to the 'modern' circuit until late 1967.

That said, all bar a tiny minority of players will want the 'modern' circuit.

@ICBM what's the difference between 50's and modern wiring on a Telecaster and Stratocaster?

ICBM

On a Tele, until 1967 the front position of the switch gave a muted ‘bass’ tone and the middle position gave the neck pickup. After that it was changed to the modern neck/both/bridge circuit.

The Strat stayed the same until the early 1980s, and didn’t even get a 5-way switch - which is electrically identical to a 3-way, just with two extra mechanical stops - until 1977.

guitars4you

ICBM said:

On a Tele, until 1967 the front position of the switch gave a muted ‘bass’ tone and the middle position gave the neck pickup. After that it was changed to the modern neck/both/bridge circuit.

Plus it meant you could not get both pick-ups on at the same time - which is the format most of us know today