The Pedal Finishing Thread - Painting, Coating, Drilling, Envirotex, etc

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  • SteveFSteveF Frets: 74
    Nice, what's the little metal can things?  Transistors? And what do the switchable caps do? (so many questions! :)
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    edited June 13
    2N222A transistors. It's a DPDT on/off/on switch that switches in an extra cap for more bass.


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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    Another pedal build!

    It's a Zendrive clone.

    Do you get the reference and motto?

    k1

     k2
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  • SteveFSteveF Frets: 74
    I didn't but a quick google solved it.  :) Very clever!  Looks great too.  Is that one a clear decal or did you just match the enclosure colour really well? 
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    It was sheer luck that the decal colour I chose matched almost exactly the pedal's colour.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    Tell you what Steve, the Zendrive is a really great overdrive, sounds the best I've heard. Try one - http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.com/2012/01/hermida-zendrive.html You can get an OPA2604 from Bitsbox.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    New Pedal Build!

    The Giant Hogweed. A fuzz with octaver.

    1970s Genesis album cover "Nursery Cryme"...

    gh1


     gh2
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  • SteveFSteveF Frets: 74
    Ill have a go of the zen drive. You prolific at the mo mate. I’m away on a course for work so won’t be doing much for a while. :(
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  • aord43aord43 Frets: 285
    @Philtre ;
     you must do nothing but make pedals!  I do one or two a year :)  My Keeley 4-knob compressor was completed a couple of months ago and I still haven't labelled the outside!  Ordered some Envirotex though, and I was playing around with graphics based on the Monty Python foot.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    edited July 5
    @aord43 Well, I've made about 23 since January, so there is time to eat and sleep at the weekends. ;-)

    How does the Keeley sound? I keep meaning to do one of those. The foot is a good idea, must steal that!
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    Put together a RAT clone. Pretty obvious why I called it BEN, right? ;)

    ben

     rat_guts
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 9206
    Philtre said:
    Put together a RAT clone. Pretty obvious why I called it BEN, right? ;)

    Because your name is Phil? 
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    edited July 5
    Philtre said:
    Put together a RAT clone. Pretty obvious why I called it BEN, right?

    Because your name is Phil? 
    Not really.




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  • bbill335bbill335 Frets: 625
    I've skimmed the thread for an answer to this but it seems you guys are mostly starting with a painted/powder coated enclosure. Coz I've not got drilling gear, I use fuzzdog's pre-drilled enclosures, and I want to get a decent solid colour on one or two enclosures in a short a timeframe as possible (like a single afternoon of spraying). I'm thinking

    • sand off oxide from the bare aluminium
    • one or two coats of primer  - what's the best/fastest drying spray can brand/type for this?
    • few coats of colour
    • Then, I'm gonna go for a zvex style hand-painted look. I'm guessing model paint is fine for this but happy to be corrected.
    • clear coat (again, not sure what sort to buy)
    We have a cass art shop in brum where I can ask advice from the staff but i'm not confident they'd definitely have everything in stock.
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2823
    Can you not buy powder coated enclosures from fuzzdog as part of the kit if you pay extra?  
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 2733
    Adam_MD said:
    Can you not buy powder coated enclosures from fuzzdog as part of the kit if you pay extra?  
    They had no stock the last times I looked.
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  • lasermonkeylasermonkey Frets: 1011
    edited July 5
    I've been using the Halfords etch primer for aluminium enclosures. A pedal I built for a friend which was sprayed has done several world tours and still looks surprisingly good.

    Just give it a decent rub down with wet'n'dry and degrease thoroughly.
    My wife asked me to stop singing Wonderwall.
    I said maybe.....
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2823
    Adam_MD said:
    Can you not buy powder coated enclosures from fuzzdog as part of the kit if you pay extra?  
    They had no stock the last times I looked.
    Ah I’ve seen them listed on the site but have only ever bought pcbs so didn’t know they’d been out of stock.  
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    I had bad experience using Rustoleum paint, it was like treacle and took ages to dry. If I were to use paint again I think I would use Halfords car paint and primer.
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  • lasermonkeylasermonkey Frets: 1011
    My experiences with Rustoleum have not been good either.
    My wife asked me to stop singing Wonderwall.
    I said maybe.....
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  • bbill335bbill335 Frets: 625
    I was unsure whether car stuff would be right coz I had to to paint a nissan micra bumper bought unpainted... it took forever, looked rubbish (we basically gave up), it picked up EVERY thumbprint. I'll give the halford's primer a look. Thanks guys.
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  • AlvinAlvin Frets: 70
    bbill335 said:
    I was unsure whether car stuff would be right coz I had to to paint a nissan micra bumper bought unpainted... it took forever, looked rubbish (we basically gave up), it picked up EVERY thumbprint. I'll give the halford's primer a look. Thanks guys.
       If you want to finish your boxes quick (an afternoon) i would forget paint , clear can take forever to harden enough .
       Easiest , way for great results is in the header of this post - Envirotex , Rustins Plastic coating may also work , not tried it on enclosures though and it takes about a week to cure but it would be tougher than spray clear lacquer.

     I don't use either though ,  i just go to Poundland , buy a tube of there clear epoxy resin a pack of coloured chalk and a pack of glitter (think metallic- not fairy dust) .  
        You have to do this very quick as it hardens even quicker with the chalk in the mix .
      
        Scrape the chalk into a fine powder , mix chalk into your epoxy to give it some colour , spread on the enclosure . Sprinkle on some glitter (same colour as the chalk works well) . Let it harden give it a rub down . I then use a label maker (£20.00 ish and well worth it)  to give it a more professional look , then add another clear layer of epoxy on top to cover the labels .  You can rub down again to level it and polish off with T-Cut .  And one tube of epoxy will easily do one enclosure .
       Works on either powder coated or plain alluminium enclosures but i always colour with the chalk on plain and only cover the tops.
       I have tried painting and even swirling and both are to much trouble and not tough enough for stomp boxes if you want a finish that will last epoxy is the way .

       @juansolo 's guide at the beginning of this thread is well worth looking at .      ( i may have also mentioned all this earlier in the thread , apologies if i am repeating myself) .
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  • thermionicthermionic Frets: 4710

    Last time I looked at Fuzzdog they'd stopped stocking powder coated enclosures completely with no plans of stocking them again.

    I picked up a can of clear enamel lacquer in Halfords the other day and smelt the cap - it had that acetone smell I associate with nitro. Last time I used Halfords metallic with clear lacquer it took an absolute age to harden - 2-3 months later and it was sticking to surfaces and leaving noticeable fingerprint indentations just from handling. Is there some generally available clear lacquer that doesn't do this? I don't want to go the Envirotex route.

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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    I found another possible way to seal the artwork decal on a pedal - http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=28100.msg272964#msg272964

    He says further down - "...inkjet clear sticker film with an extra sheet stuck over the printing for protection."

    Anyone tried this? I'm going to try a test of this soon.

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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2823
    Philtre said:
    I found another possible way to seal the artwork decal on a pedal - http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=28100.msg272964#msg272964

    He says further down - "...inkjet clear sticker film with an extra sheet stuck over the printing for protection."

    Anyone tried this? I'm going to try a test of this soon.

    I’d like to see one or at least a high res image.  I’m not sure how durable this would be in the long run.  The brass faceplate will be fine (im probably going to have a go at that myself) but I’m not sure about the unprotected stickers over time.  
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    @Adam_MD I'm going to try it with a bare metal enclosure I have. Just for an experiment. I won't bother putting any pots, switches or knobs on it, then I'll put the hurts on it and kick it around it a bit, rough it up and see how it copes.  =)
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  • OctafishOctafish Frets: 955
    Philtre said:
    I found another possible way to seal the artwork decal on a pedal - http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=28100.msg272964#msg272964

    He says further down - "...inkjet clear sticker film with an extra sheet stuck over the printing for protection."

    Anyone tried this? I'm going to try a test of this soon.

    I thought about doing that, two concerns....
    • Two layers of clear vinyl might be a bit thick and look rough around the edges.
    • The clear inkjet vinyl seems to have a slightly tacky surface that picks up fingerprints even when not printed on.
    If I was to try the madbean method I would want to use the sticky vinyl film Libraries use to protect books like this
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  • OctafishOctafish Frets: 955
    Adam_MD said:
    Adam_MD said:
    Can you not buy powder coated enclosures from fuzzdog as part of the kit if you pay extra?  
    They had no stock the last times I looked.
    Ah I’ve seen them listed on the site but have only ever bought pcbs so didn’t know they’d been out of stock.  
    They've been out of stock for the last year. As great as Fuzzdog stuff is, they always seem to have stuff out of stock for a very long time. Not sure why they still list stuff they don't appear to sell anymore?
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 706
    Octafish said:

    I thought about doing that, two concerns....
    • Two layers of clear vinyl might be a bit thick and look rough around the edges.
    • The clear inkjet vinyl seems to have a slightly tacky surface that picks up fingerprints even when not printed on.
    If I was to try the madbean method I would want to use the sticky vinyl film Libraries use to protect books like this
    Yeah, I was thinking the same. I'll still try though as proof of concept.
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2823
    Let me know how you get on.  
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