The Pedal Finishing Thread - Painting, Coating, Drilling, Envirotex, etc

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  • OctafishOctafish Frets: 983
    edited July 8
    Philtre said:
    Octafish said:

    I thought about doing that, two concerns....
    • Two layers of clear vinyl might be a bit thick and look rough around the edges.
    • The clear inkjet vinyl seems to have a slightly tacky surface that picks up fingerprints even when not printed on.
    If I was to try the madbean method I would want to use the sticky vinyl film Libraries use to protect books like this
    Yeah, I was thinking the same. I'll still try though as proof of concept.
    I've got some of that non-printable clear sticky vinyl somewhere. Will have a go with that at some point. Probably best to stick the clear protective layer over the printed layer before cutting out.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    I've done my proof of concept. :-)

    I printed out the colour label and then, as @Octafish rightly points out, stuck the clear layer over that and then cut the whole thing out and stuck it to the enclosure. It's fine and I quite like it.

    I scratched it up a bit with my fingernail and, as expected, it left marks, but not too bad. Did the same with an Envirotexed pedal and that also left marks.

    Now I'll leave it a few days and kick it around a bit and see if the edges curl up or any issues arise.
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  • juansolojuansolo Frets: 1674
    Philtre said:
    To start the ball rolling here's a link to a great guide on finishing a pedal by Cleggy and JuanSolo:

    http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/finishing.html

    This is the de facto guide to finishing a pedal - so props to them!
    Cheers! Though the link no longer works as my hosting expired, it's now here:


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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    juansolo said:
    Philtre said:
    To start the ball rolling here's a link to a great guide on finishing a pedal by Cleggy and JuanSolo:

    http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/finishing.html

    This is the de facto guide to finishing a pedal - so props to them!
    Cheers! Though the link no longer works as my hosting expired, it's now here:


    Thanks! I updated the link in the original post.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    edited July 8
    Philtre said:
    I've done my proof of concept. :-)

    I printed out the colour label and then, as @Octafish rightly points out, stuck the clear layer over that and then cut the whole thing out and stuck it to the enclosure. It's fine and I quite like it.

    I scratched it up a bit with my fingernail and, as expected, it left marks, but not too bad. Did the same with an Envirotexed pedal and that also left marks.

    Now I'll leave it a few days and kick it around a bit and see if the edges curl up or any issues arise.
    I used this transparent sticker film as the top layer because that's all I have right now - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0725Z8CVB/

    Then I did an experiment - I ran the whole lot under the hot tap. Then a gooey layer of the transparent film started to come off in small lumps. After a bit of rinsing and a final rub down with meths it came up really shiny and smooth. And the fingernail grooves I put in (deliberately) disappeared. It looks great! My next pedal will be done this way...


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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    Further to my experiment of transparent sticker over inkjet sticker, here's one I put together today. It's a Zendrive clone, I've tried to show where the transfer meets the edge of the enclosure. I'm happy with this approach.

    I'm going to miss the smell of Envirotex... ;)


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  • SteveFSteveF Frets: 184
    Angon, I go away for 5 minutes and you're off the 'Tex??? Outrageous! :lol: 

    It looks good, although it doesn't seem (certainly in the photo at any rate) to have quite the same sheen as the ET pedals.  I can appreciate it must be miles quicker and easier though. 
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    It's shiny enough for me. And the beauty is it's easy enough to peel it off and put on another one if you change your mind. =)
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  • SteveFSteveF Frets: 184
    That is very true. Have you given it a good kicking yet? :) 
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    SteveF said:
    That is very true. Have you given it a good kicking yet? :) 
    Oh yes, I duffed it up real good. B)
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  • OctafishOctafish Frets: 983
    Philtre said:
    It's shiny enough for me. And the beauty is it's easy enough to peel it off and put on another one if you change your mind. =)
    That looks good, will have to try one myself. Was it any harder applying the doubled up sticker to the enclosure?
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    Octafish said:
    Philtre said:
    It's shiny enough for me. And the beauty is it's easy enough to peel it off and put on another one if you change your mind. =)
    That looks good, will have to try one myself. Was it any harder applying the doubled up sticker to the enclosure?
    I messed up the first time when I put the clear sticker over the inked one because I puckered it. But apart from that, it was fine. So far it's looking good. Besides, what's the worst that could happen? I peel it off and out another sticker on.
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2887
    Let me know how it looks as it gets use and knocked about.  I’m a bit dubious about how good it’ll look in a few years vs a ‘tex finish.  
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    Adam_MD said:
    Let me know how it looks as it gets use and knocked about.  I’m a bit dubious about how good it’ll look in a few years vs a ‘tex finish.  
    OK, I'll report back in a few years. =)
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  • BigMonkaBigMonka Frets: 1510
    Philtre said:
    Further to my experiment of transparent sticker over inkjet sticker, here's one I put together today. It's a Zendrive clone, I've tried to show where the transfer meets the edge of the enclosure. I'm happy with this approach.

    I'm going to miss the smell of Envirotex... ;)


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    @Philtre that sticker approach looks great, I can't even tell where the sticker ends - is it right at the black outline?
    Always be yourself! Unless you can be Batman, in which case always be Batman.
    My boss told me "dress for the job you want, not the job you have"... now I'm sat in a disciplinary meeting dressed as Batman.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    @BigMonka Yes, it is. You can, in real life, actually see the sticker raised slightly on the actual pedal, but no more than like those Electro Harmonix pedals, and certainly not even an issue when the pedal is on the floor.

    The pedal is still looking good to me. There may be a "gotcha" after some time has passed - maybe the sticker will peel at the edges or contract or pucker up, or something. I'll wait and see. Worst case scenario is to simply peel it off, put on another one and Envirotex over the top if this plan fails. :-)
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  • BigMonkaBigMonka Frets: 1510
    Cool, thanks ;
    The sticker approach might be suitable for those of us who only want to make a couple of pedals so buying a vat of envirotex works out quite expensive per pedal.

    Always be yourself! Unless you can be Batman, in which case always be Batman.
    My boss told me "dress for the job you want, not the job you have"... now I'm sat in a disciplinary meeting dressed as Batman.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    edited July 26
    Here's another pedal done with the same double-sticker approach. The decal is solid.

    rc
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  • munckeemunckee Frets: 1399
    Don't know whether this should be a seperate thread or not.  While looking at my pedal board my daughter laughed at my joyo vintage overdrive and said it looked rubbish.  To be fair it does but sounds great.  I thought about removing the finish and giving her a summer holiday project of decorating it for me as she is quite a manga style artist.

    Can I get all the finish off just with sandpaper firstly, then is their any kind of pens she could use to draw on it.  Doesn't need to be the best finish ever would sharpies work or do you need something else for metal?

    Any thoughts from clever people who know this stuff, or anyone else of course.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    Posca pens is what folks use.

    See:


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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2887
    munckee said:
    Don't know whether this should be a seperate thread or not.  While looking at my pedal board my daughter laughed at my joyo vintage overdrive and said it looked rubbish.  To be fair it does but sounds great.  I thought about removing the finish and giving her a summer holiday project of decorating it for me as she is quite a manga style artist.

    Can I get all the finish off just with sandpaper firstly, then is their any kind of pens she could use to draw on it.  Doesn't need to be the best finish ever would sharpies work or do you need something else for metal?

    Any thoughts from clever people who know this stuff, or anyone else of course.
    Like Phil said poska pens will work.  

    A bit more labour intensive but this used to be a joyo vintage overdrive.  I reused the enclosure to build a Landgraff clone.  120 grit Sandpaper took the finish off really quickly.  


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  • munckeemunckee Frets: 1399
    Cheers have ordered some posca pens for her. That pedal looks great!  
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  • munckeemunckee Frets: 1399
    Posca pens have arrived, want to sand the original finish off to get back to bare metal for her to have a blank canvas.  I assume take the casing off rather than just take the knobs off and tape up the holes?, are there likely to be any problems putting it back together?
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2887
    You should be able to drop the whole thing out of the enclosure once you take off the nuts for the pots and jacks.  I’m pretty sure everything is board mounted so can come out in 1 piece.  Then when you’re done you can put it back in.  

    I wet sanded mine and ran it under water at the end to get rid of debris.  
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  • munckeemunckee Frets: 1399
    Adam_MD said:
    You should be able to drop the whole thing out of the enclosure once you take off the nuts for the pots and jacks.  I’m pretty sure everything is board mounted so can come out in 1 piece.  Then when you’re done you can put it back in.  

    I wet sanded mine and ran it under water at the end to get rid of debris.  
    Thanks @Adam_MD  it was east to go apart and went back together easily. Sanded off the finish with 150. My daughter lost interest in painting it pretty quick but did some funky doodles on it. Am going to sand off my American sound too as my wife wants a go with the pens!
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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2887
    Make sure you show us some pics when you’re done.  
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  • munckeemunckee Frets: 1399

    This is the picture of my daughter's half hearted effort, she does amazing manga pictures but decided I wanted a surf board due to my love of kayaking (to be fair I do love surf music!)

    https://i.imgur.com/zgDGPRc.jpg?1

    My wife's go at the American sound to follow.

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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 2887
    Looks a lot better than the regular joyo pedal  =)
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 727
    Adam_MD said:
    Looks a lot better than the regular joyo pedal  =)
    Yes!
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  • munckeemunckee Frets: 1399
    It definitely does look better, I just know what she is capable of, for some reason I'm drawn to having a tattoo of the picture as she drew it for me.
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