I think I may be getting in to country.

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After seeing this on Levi Clay's YouTube channel, I think I want to know more about country stylings when it comes to guitar technique.  



@koneguitarist is this what country music is all about?
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  • AlexCAlexC Frets: 1316
    I’m in admiration of a lot of country style technique but for me, like shredding, I just don’t want to listen to it. But as a skill set then it’s damn useful.
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  • KeefyKeefy Frets: 79
    Try these for a taster:




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  • There are a ton of great videos on how to play it on YouTube (obviously!), but I think the best thing to do is go and do some listening and find how cool some of the playing is!

    I made a video on 6 albums I recommend, but certain members suggested I only post here to promote myself... so don't post my own stuff anymore ;)

    If you want to do the rock-influenced thing though, check out Johnny Hiland's first album.

    Brent Mason is my hero, he's played on a TON of records (I'm really fond of his work with Alan Jackson) but his Hot Wired solo record is awesome.

    Also - if you like all that bending - check out Jerry Donohue (with the Hellecasters) 

    As always, tag me if you need any more advice!



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  • Flink_PoydFlink_Poyd Frets: 2353
    Nobody is guaranteed tomorrow.....


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  • DottoreDottore Frets: 53
    Danny Gatton is a master. Sad that he suffered from depression and killed himself. Very Country.

    You need an idea of what you are going to do, but it should be a vague idea.

    My feedback page: http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/91654/
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 17841
    Dottore said:
    Danny Gatton is a master. Sad that he suffered from depression and killed himself. Very Country.
    I would say he was more of Western swing meets Rockabilly meets Les Paul-style jazz, but whatever.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2653

    The dog!  You left out the dog from your picture compilation.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 5798
    I'm working on a proper old school country project at the moment, in the middle of recording demo 12 tracks to take into the studio in 2019. It's huge amounts of fun. Really makes you approach guitar in different ways, major keys, major pentatonics, hybrid picking. Even managed to break out the banjo on 3 tracks. i've also come to love the snare drum, double bass, electric, banjo, acoustic formation. so much you can do with it.
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 3075
    Jim Lil is a great channel,

    I like country music I think, the guitar playing/musicianship always strikes me as very good.  Not sure I would go and watch a solo singer, but I would definitely go and watch a band
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  • munckeemunckee Frets: 1224
    A good way to see a load for little money is to get the basic entry to country to country at the 02.  Main tickets are a bit more but you can see some great quality country bands in the side bars.  My wife is a big country fan and we've been a few times.  Only issue is I have watched a lot of these bands live, then bought their albums and they have been produced to death and all the grit is removed.

    Would love a an 8 litre pickup though!!
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  • richcolrichcol Frets: 10
    Not too well up on this style but Guthrie Trapp's latest album, Life After Dark, is really good.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2653
    A lot of ‘name’ guitar players release albums that are impressive technically but drivel musically. Best listen to the better known country singers, they usually employ the best session players, players who deliver. 
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • koneguitaristkoneguitarist Frets: 2600
    Country music out of Nashville is the biggest load of garbage ever. 
    For modern Country look up Sam Hunt, Walker Hayes, Florida Georgia line with Bebe Rexha. 
    Just to see how bad it has become. 
    For those of us who remember R n B as Yardbirds, spencer Davis Group etc and not Beyoncé will see what I am getting at. If you want to hear real modern country music that is actually Country you need to listen to my show on Tuesday nights. And give up on Bob (I've sold out Harris. 
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  • KeefyKeefy Frets: 79
    edited May 7
    Country music out of Nashville is the biggest load of garbage ever. 
    For modern Country look up Sam Hunt, Walker Hayes, Florida Georgia line with Bebe Rexha. 
    Just to see how bad it has become. 
    For those of us who remember R n B as Yardbirds, spencer Davis Group etc and not Beyoncé will see what I am getting at. If you want to hear real modern country music that is actually Country you need to listen to my show on Tuesday nights. And give up on Bob (I've sold out Harris. 
    Country is a broad church, and encompasses a wide range of sub-genres. Like R'n'B, it is still evolving.

    I have bookmarked the Abbey 104 online radio page and will tune in tomorrow night.
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  • Handsome_ChrisHandsome_Chris Frets: 3404
    Taff, is your show available on some sort of catch-up service?
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  • mudslide73mudslide73 Frets: 1649
    You'll have to face up to your Telehatred if you continue on this path. :)
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  • Handsome_ChrisHandsome_Chris Frets: 3404
    @mudslide73 , I have realised that I'll have to make peace with this .:D
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  • jpfampsjpfamps Frets: 1364

    I would advise getting into to country music because you like country music, not because you are impressed with a load of choppy guitar playing.

    There is a rich legacy of great song writing in country music (as well as great guitar playing).

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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 6982
    I can’t remember the quote word for word but I remember Adrian Legg saying that he used to play guitar in country bands until one day he looked up and realised there was a guy at the front of the stage in a big hat singing about trucks. 

    I think there is a bit of disconnect between guitar oriented country and what is actually popular ( be it from Nashville or elsewhere). It's like judging all rock music by Yngwie Malmsteen and Racer X albums. 

    For me I prefer an even smaller listening pool of people like Jim Campilongo and Greg Koch and Jerry Donahue who use a lot of classic country technique ( hybrid and chicken picking, faux steel bends,etc) but rarely play straight country.

    I was going to say I can't really relate to a lot of country music, although I'm not similarly impeded with songs from Chicago in the 1950s or Jamaica in the 1970s so why I draw the line at white people in the present I'm not sure. 


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  • DLMDLM Frets: 1781
     It's like judging all rock music by Yngwie Malmsteen and Racer X albums. 

    @EricTheWeary

    Excerpt from DLM's Christmas card list:

    EricTheWeary

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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2653
    jpfamps said:

    I would advise getting into to country music because you like country music, not because you are impressed with a load of choppy guitar playing.

    There is a rich legacy of great song writing in country music (as well as great guitar playing).

    Very good point you make @jpfamps.  Play the music you like OP rather than the music you think is hip or cool now. 
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • lovestrat74lovestrat74 Frets: 308
    When I read this I thought you were a refugee writing in broken english  =)
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  • Handsome_ChrisHandsome_Chris Frets: 3404
    But @jpfamps and @Rocker , I got into playing what I do now because of Glenn Tipton and Tony Iommi.  The way they make a guitar work turned my musical direction.  I'm not sure I can even remember listening to anything before that , except Adam and The Ants. 

    If there is a form of music that I've been ingnoring based on ignorance I'm willing to give it a try.  I'm sure that I can learn something from it.  

    @koneguitarist , I'm already looking forward to tonight's show.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2653
    Country is a very broad church - rootsy country has little or no twangy guitars for example. Ditto for rootsy blues. The modern country styles feature virtuoso guitar playing, I was trying to make you aware that there is more to country than Albert Lee for example. 

    But it if you enjoy it, keep on doing it. Don’t get hung up on the genre name. Country with a rock flavor? Why not?
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 2988
    Loretta Lynn - Van Lear Rose album

    You're welcome

    And if there's anything good about me, I'm the only one who knows

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  • KeefyKeefy Frets: 79
    jpfamps said:

    I would advise getting into to country music because you like country music, not because you are impressed with a load of choppy guitar playing.

    There is a rich legacy of great song writing in country music (as well as great guitar playing).

    +1 to this. I came to country for the guitar playing, but stayed for the great songs. And even more guitar playing.
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  • Handsome_ChrisHandsome_Chris Frets: 3404
    edited May 9
    Did anyone else on here catch @koneguitarist ''s show last night?  I can safely say that not all country music is for me, but some of it has me hooked in a way that modern blues-rock doesn't.

    TL:DR

    I'm in and I want to know more.
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  • KeefyKeefy Frets: 79
    I tuned in about 7.20 and listened to 3 songs, all of which I liked. I then stopped to do other stuff. I tend not to sit and listen to the radio unless I'm in the car, and only then to specific shows - this one has joined the list!
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  • KeefyKeefy Frets: 79
    Be aware that if you want your country live, you will have to exercise some caution. I play bass in a band on the country covers circuit, but the majority of acts on that circuit are solo artists or duos with backing tracks. Many will strum an acoustic guitar, a few will play a bit of lead guitar, mandolin, or fiddle, but for the most part the only hot pickin' you will hear will be on said backing tracks.
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  • koneguitaristkoneguitarist Frets: 2600
    First of all thank you to @Handsome_Chris and @Keefy for tuning in.
    But about Country guitar, there is a misconception that it's all speedy chicken picking like Brad Paisley, Brent Mason the style made popular by believe it or not English guitarists Albert Lee and Ray Flacke, who stole from Jimmy Bryant and the Bakersfield guys James Burton, Roy Nicholls and Don Rich.
    Country guitar solos in early days were more bluesy and  jazzy than specifically Country, players from Hank Williams  and Bob Will's bands generally played Gibson and Gretsch arch tops. Joe Maphis used Mosrite twin necks for example. 
    Merle Travis came out with his own style which Chet Atkins refined, again much more complex than most would think. But the most important aspect was solo must fit the song and not be a vehicle to show off, hence quite often solo would be shared between sometimes 2-3 players on different instruments, which made a short snappy solo lead into something else quite cool but as country bands slimmed down from 7-8 PC bands down to about 5 solos for the individual got longer. 
    Then you had the guys like Roy Clark tearing it up. He was a monster player. 
    But I digress nowadays on what we think of as real country not the shit that comes out of Nashville pop machine, the guitarists use Les Pauls, PRS, strats whatever they feel like as its not about the guitar it's about the feel again. Listen to Chris Knights first album, the guitarist is David Grissom on a PRS and a Marshall, as country as it gets but listen to the guitar playing, it's nothing like Albert Lee and co.
    Harmony solos are back in style as they were in the 50's. Anyway here's a couple of vids for you. 




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