Ebay 1959 Les Paul - Hmmm

designerseye88

I smell a rat....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gibson-Les-Paul-guitar-used-owned-played-by-John-Miles-Music-1957-59/323218254507?hash=item4b414f2aab:g:ossAAOSwPc9WxxyS

Moominpapa

The important thing is that the seller believes.

Strangefan

Aaaah that old chessnut, he will forever be the custodian of that guitar! And my god does he waffle. 

AlexC

Not THE John Miles.... er.... I remember some crap singing on a crap Jimmy Page solo album. That was him, was it? 

Dominic

Well, music was his first love 

Funkfingers

... and it will be his last - as in, cobblers.

Harry only knows how many times has that guitar been offered for sale on eBay and at auction houses? 

sawyer

So is it fake? If its not,why's it not selling?

IvisonGuitars

It's been on eBay for years. The most recent consensus on various forums was that it is a Dick Knight 'conversion' done sometime in the 70's.  

designerseye88

sawyer said:

So is it fake? If its not,why's it not selling?

In my opinion its a fake, I've seen it around. Theirs a number of things that don't look right about it, im sure the experts on here could go into detail. 

Funkfingers

designerseye88 said:

In my opinion, it's a fake.

In my opinion, the Miles LP is not so much a fake, more a fraud. It probably started out as a reasonable guitar. Dick Knight would have been commissioned to interfere with it. 

designerseye88 said:
a number of things that don't look right about it

Somebody in my area has a 1968 LP. Even compared to a present-day Korean Epiphone, the genuine American item from that period looks wonky. The neck pitch angle is shallow. The carve of the maple cap on the '68 looks flat and amateurish. I'm not convinced that its bridge and tailpiece inserts are at the correct angle. In spite of all this, the guitar that I have seen sounds wonderful. 

For owners who could not tolerate the way in which Gibson/Norlin had deviated from original Les Paul specifications, there were luthiers willing to rectify the situation ... for a nominal fee.

miserneil said:

a Dick Knight 'conversion' done sometime in the 70's.  

This was the first hit that Google vomited up. http://solodallas.com/gibson-19681958-les-paul-standard-the-husk-conversion-by-dick-knight-1973

midlifecrisis

seen this coming up on ebay for a few years.. my question is that even if its not fake, why 50k,  not like i would have thought paticularly collectable?