Waves prs plugin. 49usd introduction price

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New one from waves. Downloaded the demo. Early days. Some decent crunch sounds, but not inspiring. Will have a proper go over the weekend.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 17232
    I'm not that impressed with it.
    Helix Native is better and it is miles behind the Axe FX/Kemper.
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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 5602
    octatonic said:
    I'm not that impressed with it.
    Helix Native is better and it is miles behind the Axe FX/Kemper.
    At the moment would agree. Sgear still my go to plugin.

    Am yet to be impressed by any of waves' output.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 17232
    octatonic said:
    I'm not that impressed with it.
    Helix Native is better and it is miles behind the Axe FX/Kemper.
    At the moment would agree. Sgear still my go to plugin.

    Am yet to be impressed by any of waves' output.
    There are a few gems in the Mercury bundle, which I've had for a long time now.
    It used to be that Waves were the only game in town but there are usually better options.
    Abbey Rd Plates & Vinyl, REDD, L2 and Vocal Rider are the ones I use most.
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 6699
    edited May 4
    So I haven't demoed this yet, but since I have Horizon + some singles I'm not far off a decent upgrade price to Mercury which will be much cheaper overall.  So my plan is to wait for a reasonable sale price and then I'll end up with it anyway.

    Am yet to be impressed by any of waves' output.

    It depends what you're looking for and what you already have.

    I agree with @octatonic that there are individual plugins that beat individual Waves plugins in a lot of areas these days but to me that's only part of the picture.  The primary reason I like Waves is they're stable, and that's been the case for me for years now.  That and pretty much all of their plugins are super low latency which suits me for tracking workflow.

    My own philosophy is it's usually easier to screw up by a larger percentage than the difference between 2 plugins, so I might as well use the ones I find most convenient as part of my workflow.  Within reason of course.
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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 5602
    For sure I haven't sampled everything that waves do, but of the ones I have I'm yet to really find anything that either reaper or logic's bundled plugs don't match.

    However, when they knock things out for 29usd it can make a lot of sense to buy. 
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 6699
    edited May 4
    Yeah several of the plugins in Logic are pretty good.  I'm not familiar with Reaper.

    One of the other reasons is I like to be as DAW agnostic as I can.  There's no one DAW that has my ideal workflow for everything, though I have mostly moved to Studio One these days from Logic for audio.  Waves seem stable everywhere and also it's a pretty big company that have been around for a long time, they're probably going to be around for a long time too (touch wood).

    Being able to just stick to known plugins that work in multiple DAWs removes another (IMO unnecessary) learning curve.  There are a million ways to achieve the same thing in audio but having a few known workable options regardless of scenario is IMO a better way to do it, at least for me, than trying to reinvent the wheel every time.
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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 5602
    That's a very valid comment. I switched from cubase to reaper to logic. Would have been nice if plugins had been a constant
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 6699
    So for the same price you can currently get the entire Thermionik Suite + Recabinet.  If you already have Recabinet/some singles you can get another 20% off with code FRCWNK7D




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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 6699
    I do feel like Waves has kind of forced a price war over the past year or more.  I think they probably have the market size to ride it out, I do worry for some smaller plugin makers though that might not be able to sustain a business model at $29/49 a plugin.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 13813
    @guitarfishbay - if you've a Thermionik user, what do you think of it?  $50 seems an attractive price - if it's decent.
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 6699
    I haven't tried their amp models yet, I think there's a demo.  At the price there only needs to be a few bits in it to be good for it to be worth it though.

    I am a Recabinet user, I find that pretty handy for using speaker impulses as you can blend between two pretty quickly.  I also have been using their KClip plugin for ages.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 17232
    I do feel like Waves has kind of forced a price war over the past year or more.  I think they probably have the market size to ride it out, I do worry for some smaller plugin makers though that might not be able to sustain a business model at $29/49 a plugin.
    IMHO it was Slate that triggered it with the subscription model.

    Waves fought back by dropping a lot of their plugins down and, again imho, re-skinning some of their older products as new plugins.
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