PSA: SVL 61 Reserve on ebay

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BBBluesBBBlues Frets: 305
Not sure what the general consensus is on SVL around here but one has just popped up on eBay... except it’s based in South Africa!

Big fan on Matt Schofield but they do seem like very expensive/high end parts-casters.

Any experiences?
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  • SidNewtonSidNewton Frets: 354
    Don't see them pop up very often but £3100 plus £150 delivery? Er........no.
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  • shaunmshaunm Frets: 899
    Apparently Simon Law is the man when it comes to all things Fender (even though he’s obviously not Fender). 

    I have always looked at his guitars and thought that theyd be wonderful. A friend bought one and it is wonderful. But it’s a big asking price isn’t it. 

    That said, is SVL the Fender equivalent of Gill Yaron?
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  • BBBluesBBBlues Frets: 305
    SidNewton said:
    Don't see them pop up very often but £3100 plus £150 delivery? Er........no.
    Yeah I know. That can't be far off what they paid for it.
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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 105
    its still for sale.

    aren't they cheaper if you did order new?
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  • JackobeanJackobean Frets: 189
    Indeed they are. What's the wait time now though? A year plus?
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  • downbytheriverdownbytheriver Frets: 214
    They aren’t partscasters - Simon builds them entirely himself. 

    Bear in mind his track record - Matt Schofield FOH engineer, Robben Ford’s Guitar tech, Pete Townshend’s amp tech - he knows a bit about tone. 

    A couple of mates of mine have SVLs and they love them. 
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  • SidNewtonSidNewton Frets: 354
    If you look at his facebook page he's recently offered a few for sale on there. They sell pretty quick.
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  • Simon is great at what he does but I am under the belief he buys the bodies in and necks in rather than makes them himself. Yaron makes everything himself in house.
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  • robinbowesrobinbowes Frets: 1814
    Simon is great at what he does but I am under the belief he buys the bodies in and necks in rather than makes them himself. Yaron makes everything himself in house.
    From his website, he appears to build everything himself. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

    R.
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  • Simon is great at what he does but I am under the belief he buys the bodies in and necks in rather than makes them himself. Yaron makes everything himself in house.
    From his website, he appears to build everything himself. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

    R.

    Just checked the website - no where does it say he builds the bodies and necks. But does it really matter if he builds them himself or not? As long as they are good quality which by all accounts they are very good quality.
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  • Reckless1Reckless1 Frets: 8
    Simon hand builds his own bodies and necks. His guitars are second to none - I've seen many that he's built over the years I've known him. ( he's also a brilliant amp tech )
    "You play an accordian, you go to prison - that’s the law…."  
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  • vincechu89vincechu89 Frets: 25
    These look amazing and people always have nothing but praise about them (excluding comments on the price)... 

    when things like this come up (premium price/top end guitars) it always makes me think if its worth just paying extra for a Fender Masterbuilt or ordering your exact spec and just waiting... 
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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 105
    Has anyone played one? I played one years ago and it was really nice! He has priced it hard so do you go for a fender name instead or SVL? They do look quality his facebook page. His strats look better than his teles

    But then there are builders like Danocaster too. This they work out quite a bit cheaper. 

    Anyone have prices for SVL guitars now? 
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  • soma1975soma1975 Frets: 334
    I played one this week, funnily enough. Very nice. Not mind blowingly better than my 2006 Classic Player 60s Strat tbh but that happens to be an amazing instrument and better than the custom shop Strat dlx I'd had previous to it. 

    Neck was a gorgeous bit of maple. Pickups had been changed out so not fair to comment on those but it played beautifully. 

    I thought it was about £1500. Would have been well worth it. For £3,000 I'd personally go for something else. 


    My Trade Feedback Thread is here

    Been uploading old tracks I recorded ages ago and hopefully some new noodles here.
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  • downbytheriverdownbytheriver Frets: 214
    I’ve played two and they were very good. Personally I prefer some of the Fender Custom Shop Guitars I have owned but I am in a minority locally! 
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  • mburekengemburekenge Frets: 585
    edited June 13
    Well I bet there can't be many in S.A. so that probably explains the cost

    I'd be interested to try one and compare to my bravewood.
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  • Reckless1 said:
    Simon hand builds his own bodies and necks. His guitars are second to none - I've seen many that he's built over the years I've known him. ( he's also a brilliant amp tech )
    In that case - I stand corrected
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  • stuagustuagu Frets: 307
    I got talking about guitars to the foh guy at a schofield gig in sevenoaks. Id never heard of the brand and i was asking what the guitars were ? not realizing i was talking  to the builder, he was a really friendly and imformative guy, even after my ignorance !:) 
    Never had a chance  to play one but iv heard nothing but good things. 

    But... 3000+ ? Wow
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  • BBBluesBBBlues Frets: 305
    A mate of mine who ordered one not that long ago was pretty sure he’s now outsourced the production of the bodies and necks. SVL then assembles, sets up and ships out. I guess he could be wrong though. 
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  • robinbowesrobinbowes Frets: 1814
    I asked him directly if he made his own bodies and necks. He replied "A lot of the time, yes".
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  • mburekengemburekenge Frets: 585
    If he's manufacturing his own bodies and necks then fair enough. If they are basically well put together partscasters however then that price is a bit scary.
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  • SidNewtonSidNewton Frets: 354
    Reckless1 said:
    Simon hand builds his own bodies and necks. His guitars are second to none - I've seen many that he's built over the years I've known him. ( he's also a brilliant amp tech )
    No he doesn't. He's just posted this comment on his Facebook page;

    'For over 12 years now I have had the majority of my necks machined to my exacting specifications by the worlds finest guitar neck machine shop based in the Pacific North West of the USA, I then of course finish hand shaping the neck and fingerboard edges, I then finish the neck in 100% nitro to whatever style of finish the customer requires, this is the only way I can get absolute consistency from one neck to the next, hand carving each neck from scratch is just not economic or accurate enough.. the results are in my opinion stunning ever time...'


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  • mburekengemburekenge Frets: 585
    SidNewton said:
    Reckless1 said:
    Simon hand builds his own bodies and necks. His guitars are second to none - I've seen many that he's built over the years I've known him. ( he's also a brilliant amp tech )
    No he doesn't. He's just posted this comment on his Facebook page;

    'For over 12 years now I have had the majority of my necks machined to my exacting specifications by the worlds finest guitar neck machine shop based in the Pacific North West of the USA, I then of course finish hand shaping the neck and fingerboard edges, I then finish the neck in 100% nitro to whatever style of finish the customer requires, this is the only way I can get absolute consistency from one neck to the next, hand carving each neck from scratch is just not economic or accurate enough.. the results are in my opinion stunning ever time...'


    Fair play. 
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 4548
    SidNewton said:
    Reckless1 said:
    Simon hand builds his own bodies and necks. His guitars are second to none - I've seen many that he's built over the years I've known him. ( he's also a brilliant amp tech )
    No he doesn't. He's just posted this comment on his Facebook page;

    'For over 12 years now I have had the majority of my necks machined to my exacting specifications by the worlds finest guitar neck machine shop based in the Pacific North West of the USA, I then of course finish hand shaping the neck and fingerboard edges, I then finish the neck in 100% nitro to whatever style of finish the customer requires, this is the only way I can get absolute consistency from one neck to the next, hand carving each neck from scratch is just not economic or accurate enough.. the results are in my opinion stunning ever time...'


    I have always being led to believe this was the case - I know a customer who ordered an SVL and went to collect it just as a delivery of wood work had arrived - He was a bit cut up about it believing he built from the 'ground up'

    If the spec and features and quality is good enough then no issue with the final result, but the perception does not come across like this and the above comment in this OP support that
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  • tsj93tsj93 Frets: 3
    I thought i could tell judging by the build pics on fb never showing the wood blanks
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  • customkitscustomkits Frets: 742
    This is why i show build progress pics, i think people aren't getting what they think they are and it's wrong imo,  i don't care how good it is he didn't make it and forgot to tell the customers somehow, he must have much more freetime now

    How comes they're so expensive must be all the outsourcing 
    www.danielsguitars.co.uk
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  • tsj93tsj93 Frets: 3
    This is why i show build progress pics, i think people aren't getting what they think they are and it's wrong imo,  i don't care how good it is he didn't make it and forgot to tell the customers somehow, he must have much more freetime now

    How comes they're so expensive must be all the outsourcing 
    Agreed mate
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  • BBBluesBBBlues Frets: 305
    'For over 12 years now I have had the majority of my necks machined to my exacting specifications by the worlds finest guitar neck machine shop based in the Pacific North West of the USA, I then of course finish hand shaping the neck and fingerboard edges, I then finish the neck in 100% nitro to whatever style of finish the customer requires, this is the only way I can get absolute consistency from one neck to the next, hand carving each neck from scratch is just not economic or accurate enough.. the results are in my opinion stunning ever time...'
    Thanks for sharing. Was there anything mentioned on the bodies and/or finishes? (I’m not on fb)
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  • miserneilmiserneil Frets: 5119
    edited June 16
    SidNewton said:
    Reckless1 said:
    Simon hand builds his own bodies and necks. His guitars are second to none - I've seen many that he's built over the years I've known him. ( he's also a brilliant amp tech )
    No he doesn't. He's just posted this comment on his Facebook page;

    'For over 12 years now I have had the majority of my necks machined to my exacting specifications by the worlds finest guitar neck machine shop based in the Pacific North West of the USA, I then of course finish hand shaping the neck and fingerboard edges, I then finish the neck in 100% nitro to whatever style of finish the customer requires, this is the only way I can get absolute consistency from one neck to the next, hand carving each neck from scratch is just not economic or accurate enough.. the results are in my opinion stunning ever time...'


    I have always being led to believe this was the case - I know a customer who ordered an SVL and went to collect it just as a delivery of wood work had arrived - He was a bit cut up about it believing he built from the 'ground up'

    If the spec and features and quality is good enough then no issue with the final result, but the perception does not come across like this and the above comment in this OP support that
    Yes, I always understood that they were CNC’d necks & bodies and Simon then does the final finishing/bolting together/set up. I’ve seen him post pictures staining the necks but not seen any pics to suggest he sprays the bodies too. Can anyone elaborate? 
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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 911
    edited June 17
    I'm pretty certain he doesn't spray them either, never seen a raw body or a pic of him in the spray booth...ever. Mind you in his defence his build involvement is no less than a Fender Masterbuilder, you won't see a pic these days of John Cruz in the booth either. Follow this guy on Insta and you will see him spraying ALL the masterbuilders necks and bodies...

    https://www.instagram.com/jncolor/
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