'Ere, what do you know about in-ear monitoring?

We're setting up a rehearsal space and what to be able to play with headphones. What's the most cost-effective way of bass, two guitars, vocals and an electronic drum kit to all be monitored by all players?


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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4075
    Do you each need your own mix and if so do you need mono or stereo?
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  • ijontyijonty Frets: 28
    I guess whatever is simplest. We don’t need it for anything precise. We just want the ability to rehearse without making a racket to our neighbours.


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  • LegionreturnsLegionreturns Frets: 4480
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    Just one transmitter and however many receivers you need then. If you don't need a different mix each that'll be fine. Most mixer desks will allow you to set a slightly different mix for monitoring compared to the broadcast sound so you can accentuate vocals and guitars, for that you'd need a stereo / twin input transmitter and two different aux channels on the desk. 

    Will the drums be mic'd or not? If not they won't be on the mix obviously.

    *Edit - electric drums. Missed that bit. Assuming they're through the PA no problem* 

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  • ijontyijonty Frets: 28
    We haven't got any set up yet. So we'd need a mixer desk, and then transmitters and receivers? I don't know much about this, so what kind of transmitters would we need?


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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4075
    Our setup is a behringer XR-16 which gives you 4 mono aux mixes. Each member can control their own mix via android / iphone app. The drummer uses a powered wedge but eveyone else then runs wired Behringer Powerplay P1 into IEMs (shure 315's in my case but other guitarist uses closed back headphones and singer has 215s).

    The band collectively own the mixer which was about £350 then each person bought their own stuff to connect, so for me that was around £140 for the IEMS plus £40 or so for the powerplay.

    I dont see the point in wireless until you can get a bi-directional system for snesible money (ie/ carrying monirot signal one way and guitar signal the other) so I could be completely untethered.
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  • smigeonsmigeon Frets: 74

    I dont see the point in wireless until you can get a bi-directional system for snesible money (ie/ carrying monirot signal one way and guitar signal the other) so I could be completely untethered.
    Good point. Why doesn't anyone produce such a thing??
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4075
    I looked and Shure make something but its about £800
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  • LegionreturnsLegionreturns Frets: 4480
    I use shure 215s, which are about the cheapest IEMs at around £85. Pretty decent

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  • ijontyijonty Frets: 28
    ijonty said:
    We haven't got any set up yet. So we'd need a mixer desk, and then transmitters and receivers? I don't know much about this, so what kind of transmitters would we need?
    Sorry if I'm being idiotic - still unsure of what my shopping list should be. If you can help, I'd really appreciate it! Pretend I know nothing about anything. Which is pretty much where I'm at with this stuff...


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  • ijontyijonty Frets: 28
    Our setup is a behringer XR-16 which gives you 4 mono aux mixes. Each member can control their own mix via android / iphone app. The drummer uses a powered wedge but eveyone else then runs wired Behringer Powerplay P1 into IEMs (shure 315's in my case but other guitarist uses closed back headphones and singer has 215s).

    The band collectively own the mixer which was about £350 then each person bought their own stuff to connect, so for me that was around £140 for the IEMS plus £40 or so for the powerplay.

    I dont see the point in wireless until you can get a bi-directional system for snesible money (ie/ carrying monirot signal one way and guitar signal the other) so I could be completely untethered.
    Cheers for this. So just because all this is new to me, basically you've got:
    • A digital mixer
    • each person has an In-Ear Monitor Amplifier
    • each has own headphones
    Is that right?

    I'm not sure what a powered wedge is though?

    And another daft question: do guitars and pedal boards plug straight into the mixer?


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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4075
    ijonty said:
    Our setup is a behringer XR-16 which gives you 4 mono aux mixes. Each member can control their own mix via android / iphone app. The drummer uses a powered wedge but eveyone else then runs wired Behringer Powerplay P1 into IEMs (shure 315's in my case but other guitarist uses closed back headphones and singer has 215s).

    The band collectively own the mixer which was about £350 then each person bought their own stuff to connect, so for me that was around £140 for the IEMS plus £40 or so for the powerplay.

    I dont see the point in wireless until you can get a bi-directional system for snesible money (ie/ carrying monirot signal one way and guitar signal the other) so I could be completely untethered.
    Cheers for this. So just because all this is new to me, basically you've got:
    • A digital mixer
    • each person has an In-Ear Monitor Amplifier
    • each has own headphones
    Is that right?

    I'm not sure what a powered wedge is though?

    And another daft question: do guitars and pedal boards plug straight into the mixer?
    Powered wedge is jsut a speaker with an amp in it, they usually triangular so that they point upwards. Theyre what you see at the front of the stage in concerts usually. Personally I prefer using the IEMs to the wedge but drummer is a traditionalist.

    We mic our guitar amps and put the mic signal into the mixer but if you have a pedal that has an amp sim or similar or a modelling pedal then you could get reasonable results going straight in im sure. Would be a waste of owning a diezel amplifier in my case though :D
    This is my rant thread, there are others like it, but this one is mine.
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  • ijontyijonty Frets: 28

    Powered wedge is jsut a speaker with an amp in it, they usually triangular so that they point upwards. Theyre what you see at the front of the stage in concerts usually. Personally I prefer using the IEMs to the wedge but drummer is a traditionalist.

    We mic our guitar amps and put the mic signal into the mixer but if you have a pedal that has an amp sim or similar or a modelling pedal then you could get reasonable results going straight in im sure. Would be a waste of owning a diezel amplifier in my case though :D
    Ah, I see. Perhaps I'm looking for a slightly different purpose to you then. The reason we want monitors is that we don't want noisy amps disturbing other people in the house.

    So we'd be listening with headphones instead of playing sound through amps, rather than both.

    We don't have modelling pedals though, just normal ones.

    So would we actually need to play through our amps at a volume that wouldn't disturb the rest of the house, then use monitors, and turn up the volume in those? Or does that not work doing it that way?


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