So... what about Jet City?

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  • McTootMcToot Frets: 1083
    As a bit of an update on my utterly ludicrous worthy quest for a 20HV, I've been in touch with the UK JC store and they have apologised but they're not expecting any more new amps in until November at best due to some production snafu. It's a shame: I'd prefer to buy from them rather than Thomann, but I'm an impatient bugger. 

    Do I need one? Nope (A Blues Deluxe and a 22 Custom are already complete overkill for a front room warrior like me). 
    Am I likely to get one: hell yes. 

    GAS strikes me with the same predictability of one of those Icelandic geysers. My attacks may not be every 9 minutes like the famous one there, but about every 4 months I feel compelled to lust after some bit of kit or another...

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  • bobblehatbobblehat Frets: 198
    Recently bought the JCA20HV from Thomann. The UK site is out of stock until November!
    Went for the HV as I was concerned the standard 20 and 22 might be a bit too high gain . The HV does fantastic classic rock and great driven clean sounds. Also which cleans up nicely using the guitars volume.Something I wasn't expecting given its only 20w . I have also found it can stay pretty clean if needed even in a band setting.
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  • How big is the head? Is it narrower than, say, an Orange PPC 1X12. I heard it's a big head? Hmmm, this or the Pro Junior............ GAS
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  • not_the_djnot_the_dj Frets: 5928
    How big is the head? Is it narrower than, say, an Orange PPC 1X12. I heard it's a big head? Hmmm, this or the Pro Junior............ GAS
    Nah they're not big, 64 x 31 x 32 cm (after a google search).

    All the JC 20 watt heads are the same size. I have the HV and Custom 22.
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  • Can't justify having this and a pro junior down the line. Or can I....
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  • McTootMcToot Frets: 1083
    Can't justify having this and a pro junior down the line. Or can I....
    If I can justify having a 40w Blues Deluxe, a Custom 22 and a 20HV (and given enough time I can come up with some very convincing reasons why I must have all three), then yes you can. Just put your mind to it.

     ;) 

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  • newi123newi123 Frets: 360
    edited September 12
    Can't justify having this and a pro junior down the line. Or can I....
    I have a JCA20HV and 1x12, 2x12 or 4x12 cab for rock gigs and a princeton for pop gigs and jam nights. Love both setups
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  • McTootMcToot Frets: 1083
    newi123 said:
    Can't justify having this and a pro junior down the line. Or can I....
    I have a JCA20HV and 1x12, 2x12 or 4x12 cab for rock gigs and a princeton for pop gigs and jam nights. Love both setups
    I wish you were a bit closer to me than North Wilts. I'm really keen to have a play about on a 20HV to confirm that I need one in my life...

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  • Jetsam1Jetsam1 Frets: 16
    Necrothread.

    What is the experience with the Jet City own brand cabs and factory fit speakers? The Thomann bundles with the 20 Watt heads and 1x12 and 2x12 speaker cabs do seem rather appealing as the amps themselves seem well liked. I have always missed my old Marshall JCM900.......
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  • Jetsam1 said:
    Necrothread.

    What is the experience with the Jet City own brand cabs and factory fit speakers? The Thomann bundles with the 20 Watt heads and 1x12 and 2x12 speaker cabs do seem rather appealing as the amps themselves seem well liked. I have always missed my old Marshall JCM900.......
    I really like the own-brand speakers, although they're quite modern-sounding which isn't to everyone's taste. I don't think they work as well in a 1x12" as they do in the bigger cabs, though.
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  • Jetsam1Jetsam1 Frets: 16
    Jetsam1 said:
    Necrothread.

    What is the experience with the Jet City own brand cabs and factory fit speakers? The Thomann bundles with the 20 Watt heads and 1x12 and 2x12 speaker cabs do seem rather appealing as the amps themselves seem well liked. I have always missed my old Marshall JCM900.......
    I really like the own-brand speakers, although they're quite modern-sounding which isn't to everyone's taste. I don't think they work as well in a 1x12" as they do in the bigger cabs, though.
    If I can get away with it the 20 HV (the more vintage voiced one?) looks right up my alley. Pair it with a Fender Super X2 and that should cover everything I would think of to play. If I want gain I have a Tubescreamer! And that is the only pedal I ever really use. They do vertical 2x12s!!!! Ooh.......
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  • There's a second hand 22H in my local music shop for almost nothing and I've been looking for a lower wattage amp for home use (have a Mesa Boogie Solo 50 head which is crazy loud) and I am so tempted!

    I realise 20 watt is still loud, but should be a "bit" more reasonable.

    Any thoughts on the 22H from owners?

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  • There's a second hand 22H in my local music shop for almost nothing and I've been looking for a lower wattage amp for home use (have a Mesa Boogie Solo 50 head which is crazy loud) and I am so tempted!

    I realise 20 watt is still loud, but should be a "bit" more reasonable.

    Any thoughts on the 22H from owners?

    I don't have one now (having moved to the Helix), but if I'm honest I think the 50H is actually better for home use - the volume control is much less of a hair-trigger at the low end. The 22H is much harder to get down to home volumes, which seems odd but is totally true (I've had three of them).

    As a gigging amp, though, I much prefer the 22H. Easily enough headroom even for metal, with more gain on tap and a better effects loop.
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  • There's a second hand 22H in my local music shop for almost nothing and I've been looking for a lower wattage amp for home use (have a Mesa Boogie Solo 50 head which is crazy loud) and I am so tempted!

    I realise 20 watt is still loud, but should be a "bit" more reasonable.

    Any thoughts on the 22H from owners?

    I don't have one now (having moved to the Helix), but if I'm honest I think the 50H is actually better for home use - the volume control is much less of a hair-trigger at the low end. The 22H is much harder to get down to home volumes, which seems odd but is totally true (I've had three of them).

    As a gigging amp, though, I much prefer the 22H. Easily enough headroom even for metal, with more gain on tap and a better effects loop.
    Ok thanks. Good to know. May have to try it and see.
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  • jonnyburgojonnyburgo Frets: 6296
    I’ve got one of the older combos, the single channel 20 watter with reverb. It’s great, the only thing I wish was that the bottom end was a bit fatter. I’ve got an Eminence Private jack in mine although the stock speaker was fine to begin with.
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  • I’ve got one of the older combos, the single channel 20 watter with reverb. It’s great, the only thing I wish was that the bottom end was a bit fatter. I’ve got an Eminence Private jack in mine although the stock speaker was fine to begin with.
    Yeah...I'm convinced that these amps need a minimum of 2x12" to sound "right". It's not that they sound bad with a single speaker, they just have more when more air is being pushed.
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  • McTootMcToot Frets: 1083
    In the end, a combination of Jet City UK being out of stock and opportunistic GAS meant that my 20HV plans have (almost, maybe, probably) been permanently iced. 

    I got the Marshall Origin 20H wot was on the classy frieds recently  B)

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  • riffpowersriffpowers Frets: 120
    Anyone know the difference between the new and older 22h ??
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12556
    Anyone know the difference between the new and older 22h ??
    Cosmetic only, as far as I know....?
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  • Well, I picked up the one from my local music shop. Turn out it was the Custom 22H, so I'm even more pleased with the value for money. It really does sound great - a huge sound (which suits me as I play distorted in the main).

    Looking forward to trying it in the band environment now.
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  • Does the Custom 22H have the ability to toggle anything other than channel remotely?
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  • McTootMcToot Frets: 1083
    Does the Custom 22H have the ability to toggle anything other than channel remotely?
    Nope - single button footswitch, though I'm sure there's a mod for that. There seems to be a mod for everything on the JCA amps

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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12556
    Well, goddammit.

    Tried the old JCA50H (which has been sitting in the corner for two or three years now) in 4CM with the Helix tonight. Once I got a dodgy cable sorted out...ohhhhh lordy, did it sound fiiiiiine. I've found that the Helix can convincingly emulate all the sounds I get from other amps, but it just can't replicate the combined growl and zing that my trusty ol' Jet City pushes out.

    Looks like I'm back in the JCA world again. Wow.
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  • EvoEvo Frets: 104
    We must be drinking the same water digitalscream, I’ve been doing exactly the same! 

    I was was running a Mesa rig which got shelved when I went helix for the function stuff. I picked up a custom 22 and that was it, it’s three weeks later I’ve picked up an Amelia and I’m after a combo to replace my mark v 35!

    on a side note, the Amelia is well worth a look. I know it’s pricey for a jet city (I.e. costs more than a drive pedal) but for 400 squids they’re worth every penny
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4339
    Well, goddammit.

    Tried the old JCA50H (which has been sitting in the corner for two or three years now) in 4CM with the Helix tonight. Once I got a dodgy cable sorted out...ohhhhh lordy, did it sound fiiiiiine. I've found that the Helix can convincingly emulate all the sounds I get from other amps, but it just can't replicate the combined growl and zing that my trusty ol' Jet City pushes out.

    Looks like I'm back in the JCA world again. Wow.
    The dirt channel on that amp is soo ridiculous for the money! Even though Im not using mine and its totally been made obsolete by the VH4 I dont want to sell it :)
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  • First rehearsal with my newly acquired Custom 22 tonight...can’t wait! I’ve been so impressed with it so far.
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12556
    Well, goddammit.

    Tried the old JCA50H (which has been sitting in the corner for two or three years now) in 4CM with the Helix tonight. Once I got a dodgy cable sorted out...ohhhhh lordy, did it sound fiiiiiine. I've found that the Helix can convincingly emulate all the sounds I get from other amps, but it just can't replicate the combined growl and zing that my trusty ol' Jet City pushes out.

    Looks like I'm back in the JCA world again. Wow.
    The dirt channel on that amp is soo ridiculous for the money! Even though Im not using mine and its totally been made obsolete by the VH4 I dont want to sell it :)
    Aye...the crunch channel boosted is also awesome, slightly less compressed than the drive channel. I've lost count of the number of (vastly more expensive) amps I've ditched because they didn't match up to my trusty JCA50H.
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  • clarkefanclarkefan Frets: 474
    I don't get the difference between 20 and 22, is the 22 just a 20w amp with 2 channels?  Or is it running at 22w? 
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  • Dave_McDave_Mc Frets: 1056
    ^ I think the 22 has 2 channels (i.e. it's more like the bigger heads, except lower in wattage) whereas I think the 20 only has one channel which has less gain.
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12556
    edited October 20
    clarkefan said:
    I don't get the difference between 20 and 22, is the 22 just a 20w amp with 2 channels?  Or is it running at 22w? 
    JCA20H: Single channel 20W head

    JCA22H: Dual-channel 20W head, with an effects loop (line-level, post-master-volume)
    EDIT: The crunch channel is the one from the JCA20H, and the drive channel has even more gain.

    JCA20HV: Single-channel 20W head, with the JCA22H's effects loop, and a more vintage-voiced feel.

    Custom 22: Dual-channel 20W head, completely re-voiced to have a real clean channel and even more gain on the drive channel. Sensible post-MV effects loop, possibly instrument-level (I can't quite remember).

    JCA50H: Dual-channel 50W head, with a slightly batty pre-tone-stack line-level effects loop. Slightly less gain than the JCA22H.

    JCA100H: Same as the JCA50H, but with twice the power output.

    JCA100HDM: Same as the JCA100H, but with a depth control and a 50W switch.

    I'd go into the combos, but you can't get most of them any more.

    EDIT: The JCA22H, JCA50H, JCA100H and JCA100HDM are effectively 20W/50W/100W versions of the Soldano Hot Rod+, made in China. That means they don't have a clean channel per se - it's crunch and drive, although rolling off the guitar volume does get you clean-ish (as will low output pickups).
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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