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kelpbedskelpbeds Frets: 3
Fancy something that does everything. (with a bias towards metal) Need it to do the heavy stuff, bluesy stuff and poppy stuff (largely for gigging in different bands)
Was considering a Charvel San Dimas as it has coil taps on it (I know they aren't as good as real single coils but better than no coil taps) to get that stratty sound. Or maybe a PRS with coil taps (believe they use a slightly different setup) Also would like some trem system on it but doesn't have to be a floyd (which I'm not massively keen on as they get in the way when you are damping)
The Guthrie Charvel looks fantastic and it has an original flat floyd on. But way too expensive. Must be below 1K. Any thoughts or recommendations?
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 17426
    HSS Strat.
    I am the juice of four limes.
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 3934
    I'd check out a PRS Custom 24 based on the above info but for under 1K you'd be looking at an S2 version, or hunt around for a USA CE24 model with bolt on maple neck - should get one for under 1 K via a private sale
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  • stimpsonslostsonstimpsonslostson Frets: 2997
    octatonic said:
    HSS Strat.
    End thread. 
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  • andy1839andy1839 Frets: 514
    Any of the PRS 513 models, especially the 513 Standard  
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  • kelpbedskelpbeds Frets: 3
    Got a couple of strats and not keen on the HSS ones (I like a strat to be a strat!) Will check out the PRSs. Are they pretty versatile?
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  • kelpbedskelpbeds Frets: 3
    513 looks perfect but well over my budget!

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  • Arktik83Arktik83 Frets: 261
    edited June 9
    Personally found PRS DGT's are the closest guitar to "ticking all boxes".  The coil taps are great.

    EDIT: Ah shit, sorry didn't realise you said under £1k.  PRS SE EG if you could source one?  Or a Tele custom?
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 6986
    Note choice defines the music not the guitar. If you play Metallica on an es330 or a flying v it will still sound like Metallica.

    Buy whatever you find the most comfortable to play
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • vincechu89vincechu89 Frets: 17
    Apologies, as i know you have strats, but this @guitars4you  has got to be a super versatile strat: https://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/5512-fender-2015-limited-edition-american-deluxe-mahogany-strat-hss-used/ 

    mahogany body HSS with S1 switching, and imo looks amazing...  too bad I’m broke or I might have it lol

    a little over your budget though.
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  • olafgartenolafgarten Frets: 1326
    Get a good HSS Superstrat with passive pickups. The Ibanez AX Series looks good and is around your budget. 
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  • maltingsaudiomaltingsaudio Frets: 876
    Patrick Eggle Berlin pro should be within budget
    www.maltingsaudio.co.uk
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 8447
    No such thing. Its why I keep lots of guitars. IMO the most versatile are ES-335, and SG2000, the latter probably scores because of its coil taps.
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • andy1839andy1839 Frets: 514
    kelpbeds said:
    513 looks perfect but well over my budget!

    Occasionally a 513 Standard comes up for sale, they're solid mahogany with no flash tops and are about £1k

    But they're quite rare.  
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 5195
    Ibanez AZ
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 30909
    Any guitar with a couple of different sounds and probably a trem can be used for any type of music. The rest is all down to the amp, effects, image and perception.

    If you really need the in-between Strat sound then you need either a middle pickup, or humbuckers which can be split to the inner coils if they're close enough together - every other sound on an electric guitar is some variation on a neck or bridge pickup tone really.

    Hollowbodies can have a problem with feedback at high gain/volume levels so might be best avoided for metal or hard rock.

    Apart from that just pick something you like the look and feel of...
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 1565

    Buy whatever you find the most comfortable to play
    Yes to this.  Things like body shape, scale, nut width, neck profile are all personal to the player.
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  • Matt_McGMatt_McG Frets: 47
    Yamaha Pacifica 612VFM or 611VFM, depending whether you want HSS or H + P90. You could pick one up second hand well under 400 quid.

    Or any kind of HSS Strat or Superstrat. My own preference would be a classic Strat with a PAF at the bridge, but that's as much because I don't like how superstrats (with possible exception of the Washburn N4 and some Charvels) look.

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  • kelpbedskelpbeds Frets: 3
    Lots to think about chaps, many thanks.
    I agree that the song defines the guitar and that Metallica on a 335 will sound like Metallica. But basically wanted something that sounds as close to my strats and les paul as possible to save lugging them both around and changing guitars mid gig.
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  • stevebrumstevebrum Frets: 3802
    kelpbeds said:
    Lots to think about chaps, many thanks.
    I agree that the song defines the guitar and that Metallica on a 335 will sound like Metallica. But basically wanted something that sounds as close to my strats and les paul as possible to save lugging them both around and changing guitars mid gig.
    That extra bit of info helps - maybe ask others if they’ve found one guitar (or modded an existing) to loosely cover the same ground as a Strat & Les Paul?
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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 1961
    edited June 9
    My PRS Cu24 is the most versatile of all my guitars and my all-round 'go to' because of it's ability to go from Les Paul-ish to Strat-ish tones.  Superb build quality and design, great trem system, excellent machine-heads with easy, fast string changing, great neck, and balances perfectly.  The PRS hard case is a bit big and overly heavy though but it doesn't feel 'right' to put it in another case so I live with that. I opted for the rotary p/up selector version instead of 3-way toggle plus push-pulls because the 5-way gives a great (for me) essential strat tone position that you can't get from the 3-way/push-pull. 
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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  • brooombrooom Frets: 143
    edited June 9
    ESP horizon?


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  • baldybaldy Frets: 48
    "Lots to think about chaps, many thanks.
    I agree that the song defines the guitar and that Metallica on a 335 will sound like Metallica. But basically wanted something that sounds as close to my strats and les paul as possible to save lugging them both around and changing guitars mid gig."

    Exactly what i was looking for.
    I have a Yamaha 611 which has a coil tap SD bucker in the bridge & a SD P90 in the neck, very versatile guitar & under £400 used or around £550-£600 new.
    I also have a Yamaha RGX HSH which I have just swapped the pick ups on & fitted Entwhistle HB"s bridge & neck & a middle single coil.
    Again very versatile sounding guitar & again well under budget.
    Both will do stratty & LP sounds.

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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 1961
    baldy said:
    "Lots to think about chaps, many thanks.
    I agree that the song defines the guitar and that Metallica on a 335 will sound like Metallica. But basically wanted something that sounds as close to my strats and les paul as possible to save lugging them both around and changing guitars mid gig."

    Exactly what i was looking for.
    I have a Yamaha 611 which has a coil tap SD bucker in the bridge & a SD P90 in the neck, very versatile guitar & under £400 used or around £550-£600 new.
    I also have a Yamaha RGX HSH which I have just swapped the pick ups on & fitted Entwhistle HB"s bridge & neck & a middle single coil.
    Again very versatile sounding guitar & again well under budget.
    Both will do stratty & LP sounds.

    I have a Yamaha Pacifica 611VFM too - and yes it's a lovely guitar and brilliant for versatility, and build quality is punching well above its weight. But I've got to create some space as I'm literally falling over stuff in my little den and I will have to let go of a few guitars and amps - because I have the Cu24 the 611 will sadly be on the list to go...once I can bring myself to make the painful choices.
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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  • DrCorneliusDrCornelius Frets: 820
    There's a Musicman Luke II on here that ticks all of your boxes - decent price too.  (No affiliiation honestly)
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  • kelpbedskelpbeds Frets: 3
    Leaning towards a PRS at the moment. Can't say I like the look of the Pacifica 611VFM - that big P90 up front just doesn't look right to me!
    I'm also prefer to buy a guitar from a shop where I can try lots of other guitars and find the one that is right. Personally would rather pay a bit more and do it like that. Really don't get how people buy guitars without playing them first.
    Cheers again all!
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  • AlegreeAlegree Frets: 335
    I'm working on preparing a video for just this at the moment in collaboration with a big-ish guitar youtuber.
    Alegree pickups & guitar supplies - www.alegree.co.uk
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 861
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 12800
    edited June 9
    Teuffel Birdfish. 
    Be your own evil twin. 
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  • SchnozzSchnozz Frets: 447
    *HSH Strat with Coil Splits - Jazz doesn't sound right with a Single sometimes.
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  • baldybaldy Frets: 48
    kelpbeds said:
    Leaning towards a PRS at the moment. Can't say I like the look of the Pacifica 611VFM - that big P90 up front just doesn't look right to me!
    I'm also prefer to buy a guitar from a shop where I can try lots of other guitars and find the one that is right. Personally would rather pay a bit more and do it like that. Really don't get how people buy guitars without playing them first.
    Cheers again all!
    If you don"t like the look of the Pacifica 611 there is the Pacifica 612 which is a HSS superstrat with wammy.
    Rock solid Yamaha build & versatile with the coil split Seymour Duncan HB, under £600 new or there is a used one on the classifieds for £325 iirc.
    You"ve probably guessed I am a Yamaha fan  =)
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