Vintage amps - too much hassle?

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  • randersonranderson Frets: 5
    brooom said:
    Definitely not digital... But if you're going to go the new route, I'd probably look at a @RiftAmps to build you a nice Deluxe Reverb, with the bonus of being a UK based company.

    If you really must go US, then the best replicas of blackface deluxe you can get in my not so humble opinion is going to be a Magic Amps.
    Not wishing to derail the thread but I'm Interested in this re. Magic Amps. I have heard great things about their Vox replicas (I know you have one for sale which is I'm gutted about as I've just bought my dream 335 so have zero funds at present) but the Fenders are just as good? I was all in for a Lazy J..

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  • LebarqueLebarque Frets: 764
    Maybe it's just me, but I always feel like I'm waiting for something to go wrong on a vintage amp, whereas I have more confidence in a well-built, recently-made amp.
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  • randersonranderson Frets: 5
    Lebarque said:
    Maybe it's just me, but I always feel like I'm waiting for something to go wrong on a vintage amp, whereas I have more confidence in a well-built, recently-made amp.
    So I just had my 60's AC30 serviced by a reputable amp guy just last week. Used it for a first rehearsal with a new band on the Sunday fine, fired it up today and some god awful squealing occurs immediately. Turn it off and on a few times and it eventually goes away.

    My point is, as good an amp as it is, it would be pretty embarrassing having this happen to you in a pro band with players you'd never met before. It doesn't really reflect well on you if you know I mean. Got me thinking whether it is worth the hassle as you rightly say.
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  • brooombrooom Frets: 140
    randerson said:
    brooom said:
    Definitely not digital... But if you're going to go the new route, I'd probably look at a @RiftAmps to build you a nice Deluxe Reverb, with the bonus of being a UK based company.

    If you really must go US, then the best replicas of blackface deluxe you can get in my not so humble opinion is going to be a Magic Amps.
    Not wishing to derail the thread but I'm Interested in this re. Magic Amps. I have heard great things about their Vox replicas (I know you have one for sale which is I'm gutted about as I've just bought my dream 335 so have zero funds at present) but the Fenders are just as good? I was all in for a Lazy J..

    Hi,

    I also have a vibro prince and a tweed deluxe. And yes they are just as good as the vox version. Although I'm selling at the moment I might just end up keeping it.

    Mike Moody from Magic, puts a lot of effort into recreating small details from these circuits, that go by unnoticed to a lot of builders. I can go into details about what some of these efforts if you want. But basically I can tell you his amps are a really good representation of real old amps. Is service support is phenomenal. I've owned and still do own old amps and his are the closest match I've been able to find.
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  • brooombrooom Frets: 140
    ICBM said:
    brooom said:
    exactly, marketing bullshit about not being able to ship amps with the roach optocoupler. For better or worse, not only is that a deviation from the original circuit, it also leaves you without the normal (no effects) channel. Which some people do like, as it isn't fed into the reverb circuit and therefore sounds and responds different.
    They could easily have done bias trem on one of the Vibrato channel preamp valves, like a Vibro Champ. Pretty stupid to change the overall functionality - they haven't changed the panel graphics to reflect it either.

    It would probably be relatively easy to modify it to that, given that it's one of the major advantages of a hard-wired circuit.
    I completely agree. If they're going to offer an amp that is not true to the old specs, don't call it a 64 deluxe reverb. The vibro champ tremolo idea, would be extremely cool as it is one of the best sounding tremolos ever in my opinion.
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  • brooom said:
    Ok, so that's what I'm trying to say. You're assumption is incorrect. Some amps sit for a long time, for no particular reason. The demand just isn't there.

    I've had this particular one for sale, for a some good months now, with not a lot of interest. It is fully original, including speaker, and blue molded coupling caps. The only work done on it has been the electrolytic caps, which should be changed on most old amps.

    It's priced below the 1969 model you just mentioned. But yeah what I wanted to emphasize is that just because something has been for sale for some time, doesn't necessarily mean it's a shit deal.

    From my experience of both collectable amps and cars I'd say @strat84 assumption is absolutely correct. When I've over priced them they sit and don't sell. When I price them reasonably they sell...go figure? 
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  • teradaterada Frets: 495
    A quick update:

    Today I ABC'd a 65 ddri, a 65 prri and a 64 handwired custom deluxe, which was interesting.

    The 64 completely outshone the 65 deluxe, sounding much more articulate and with more complexed harmonics. It was much brighter too, but that could have been the new speaker that needed a bit of use.

    The 64 was much noisier at idle though, which was surprising. It had a fair bit of both hiss with nothing plugged in, and hum on the reverb. Nothing that would be heard at rehearsal/gig volume, but would be noticeable at home volumes.

    The 65 sounded great, but more muffled than the 64, was heavier to lift, but was near silent apart from the trem which was quite ticky.

    The Princeton however was splendid, it had the brighter and more articular nature of the 64, but could have done with a bit more bass in my opinion. Was completely silent too and had much more usable volumes for home use.

    All great amps, I couldn't make a decision at the time so have a lot of thinking to do. At the moment though I'm leaning towards saving heaps of cash and just going for the Princeton!
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