New Fender Player Jaguar Tidepool leaked

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stonevibestonevibe Frets: 2860
Thought some of you may be interested in this leaked new Fender Jaguar, no official details just yet so just photo and a US price.


https://www.gearnews.com/leak-fender-player-jaguar-pf-tidepool-spotted-in-the-wild-in-the-usa/
How much does it weigh? & Does it play like butter?

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  • JD50JD50 Frets: 240
    Like the colour.....   but the bridge!
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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 377
    Nice colour. 
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  • stonevibestonevibe Frets: 2860
    I agree the colour is very nice, not sure about the rest of it though.
    How much does it weigh? & Does it play like butter?

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  • DrBobDrBob Frets: 1588
    Quite like that. USD 674 ? So about £800 by the time it lands here then ?
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  • stonevibestonevibe Frets: 2860
    DrBob said:
    Quite like that. USD 674 ? So about £800 by the time it lands here then ?
    Sounds about right unfortunately
    How much does it weigh? & Does it play like butter?

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  • mar10mar10 Frets: 12
    Quite like it, would be decent if it was the equivalent of 674usd ... but yeah
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  • Gerz6558Gerz6558 Frets: 63
    Telecasters and strats have been seen too. The rumours are that this line will replace the Mexican standard series, so there is a chance they could be priced cheaper than £800.

    Not sure why they would want to replace the standard series with them though.
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  • It's a continuation of the rebranding/refresh Fender has been doing the last few years.
    American Standard/Deluxe - American Professional/Elite
    AVRI - American Original.
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  • BranshenBranshen Frets: 788
    Gerz6558 said:
    Telecasters and strats have been seen too. The rumours are that this line will replace the Mexican standard series, so there is a chance they could be priced cheaper than £800.

    Not sure why they would want to replace the standard series with them though.
    Where is this rumour from? 
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  • gavin_axecastergavin_axecaster Frets: 159
    edited June 13
    It's been discussed on TGP and TDPRI the last month - apparently Fender reps/dealers have confirmed it. Mexican "Standard"  range is being replaced with a "Players" range. Official announcement/launch is supposed to be NAMM.
    Apparently Fender have already removed the Standard range from their US website in preparation. They were dropping colours from the site as they sold out (the US site sells direct to the public) which is what tipped some sleuth types off.
    I can't remember where I read it but the logo is changing to spaghetti-style, Strats go to 2 point trem, possibly 22 fret necks across the board (the war on vintage spec marches on) and some finish/colour changes too.
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  • BebopperBebopper Frets: 10



    Fender on Twitter: "We'll tell you more about this June 19th"

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    LJGS on Twitter: www.twitter.com/LDNJazzGuitar
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  • BabonesBabones Frets: 864
    edited June 13
    I'm probably alone, but I hate blade switches so much. I can only tolerate them on Teles.
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  • JD50JD50 Frets: 240
    Babones said:
    I'm probably alone, but I hate blade switches so much. I can only tolerate them on Teles.


    It would look better if it was mounted on a chrome plate like Marr Jag, otherwise id have gone for the Gibson type.


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  • impmannimpmann Frets: 7017
    It's been discussed on TGP and TDPRI the last month - apparently Fender reps/dealers have confirmed it. Mexican "Standard"  range is being replaced with a "Players" range. Official announcement/launch is supposed to be NAMM.
    Apparently Fender have already removed the Standard range from their US website in preparation. They were dropping colours from the site as they sold out (the US site sells direct to the public) which is what tipped some sleuth types off.
    I can't remember where I read it but the logo is changing to spaghetti-style, Strats go to 2 point trem, possibly 22 fret necks across the board (the war on vintage spec marches on) and some finish/colour changes too.
    Strats go to 2 point trem... yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk. VILE. Horrible. Fender, WTF are you doing? Not *all* players (note the word 'players' - ironic based on the new name) like the feel or tone of two post trems and for those of us that don't gently stroke the strings with a touch more gentle than a fart carressing a feather, they CHIRP.

    A proper players upgrade would be to stop farting about with soppy springs (that don't work) and fit nylon collars in the trems to stop arm slop. A proper player's upgrade would be locking machine heads with staggered heights and no string trees (with a PROPERLY CUT graphite or low friction nut). And to ensure the base-plates of your trems are properly machined to the correct angle so that they return to pitch... something lacking in some recent Mexican Strats I've worked on...

    As for the guitar pictured... meh, looks like a home-built partcaster. I like the colour (and the fact there's no flippin corned beef), but I don't like the humbucker... but then I don't play grunge.
    Never Ever Bloody Anything Ever.

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  • BabonesBabones Frets: 864
    JD50 said:
    Babones said:
    I'm probably alone, but I hate blade switches so much. I can only tolerate them on Teles.


    It would look better if it was mounted on a chrome plate like Marr Jag, otherwise id have gone for the Gibson type.


    Even that looks clunky to me.

    impmann said:
    As for the guitar pictured... meh, looks like a home-built partcaster. 
    Agreed. Poor design choices.

    I'm also bemused by Fender changing all their series names.
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3358

    So basically, the new Standard Series Mexican Tele.
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  • Yes -they are dropping the Standard series name and replacing it with this Player series.
    22 frets, bent steel saddles, spaghetti logo - these actually look very similar to the old American Standard range (replaced by the American Professional).
    It';s funny that these still have vintage spec bridge spacing/hole locations but modern bridges that a lot of players swap out for a vintage style bridge and the new American Professional has modern spec bridge spacing/hole locations but a vintage style bridge (which imo doesn't work very well due to the closer string through holes). They dropped their most vintage accurate range for a modern/vintage hybrid and are mixing vintage spec and modern parts on their base models (US and Mexican).
    Fender seems to have a bit of an identity problem at the moment.
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  • lamf68lamf68 Frets: 675
    As soon as I saw the truss rod access at the headstock I gave up looking! I'm probably the only person that can't stomach that. I like a headstock to be as clean as possible no matter how difficult it makes adjusting it, it worked okay for 50 odd years the hole there just looks cheap.
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  • stonevibestonevibe Frets: 2860
    edited June 14
    Nothing worse than a cheap looking hole
    How much does it weigh? & Does it play like butter?

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  • lamf68lamf68 Frets: 675
    stonevibe said:
    Nothing worse than a cheap looking hole
    I've had my share of cheap holes
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 5194
    I love Strats of all shapes and sizes but it makes me laugh how prescious precious people are about vintage Strat spec. There’s enough of them out there not to worry. Go buy a Jeff Beck Strat (2-point trem, urethane finish, headstock truss adjustment, 22 frets, roller nut, ceramic pickups) and get over it.
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  • adam1990adam1990 Frets: 2
    It would be good to see a hardtail option for the strat in a baseline fender in my opinion. 

    I can only imagine that the strats have been changed to this spec to possibly use some of the rejected Pro series parts they probably have in a bin some where. 
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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 3807
    The ‘leaked’ Telecaster specs seem to imply that the pickups are being upgraded - any guesses if that means Alnico? Or still ceramics?

    And, more importantly, will the shops be blowing out their old MIM Stds at silly prices?
    It might look like I'm listening to you, but in my head I'm playing my guitar.
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  • I've seen the dealer spec sheet for the Tele and they are alnico 5 pickups.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 30909
    Babones said:

    I'm also bemused by Fender changing all their series names.
    Once again demonstrating that Gibson doesn’t have a monopoly on stupidity.

    What’s the point in confusing customers like this?
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • NeilNeil Frets: 2169
    ICBM said:
    Babones said:

    I'm also bemused by Fender changing all their series names.
    Once again demonstrating that Gibson doesn’t have a monopoly on stupidity.

    What’s the point in confusing customers like this?
    Yep, Fender actually seem to be treading the old Gibson path and we all know where that leads..........
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  • Well to be fair the Mexican Standard series has been called that since 1992(?).
    The American went through a few name changes over the years - from Standard to Series back to Standard and now to Professional.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 30909
    Well to be fair the Mexican Standard series has been called that since 1992(?).
    The American went through a few name changes over the years - from Standard to Series back to Standard and now to Professional.
    Again, why? Everyone knew what an American Standard was.

    'Professional' tends to be short for "real professionals wouldn't touch this with a bargepole" too.

    Neil said:

    Yep, Fender actually seem to be treading the old Gibson path and we all know where that leads..........
    "This one goes to 11..."

    :)

    The whole thing just reeks of marketing-committee bullshit.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • BabonesBabones Frets: 864
    ICBM said:

    'Professional' tends to be short for "real professionals wouldn't touch this with a bargepole" too.

    100% - it's lame when companies name something 'pro' or 'professional'. Pros generally use 'industry standards' in their field, that standard being dictated by the industry itself. Having Mexican/American Standard, you know exactly where you are. Names like Player, Professional, Elite is just blurring the lines and simply naff.
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