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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33229
    DrBob said:

    Was that the one that got nicked ?
    Yes, and recovered. I wouldn’t count the moron who took it as “wanting” it though :).
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 7266
    JDavey guitars? He builds the teles for Andy Bown ( on stage guitarist with Status Quo) amongst others and does repair work for the likes of Robert Fripp. 
    Dum dum dum, dum dum de dum, dum dum dum, dum dummmm.
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  • FlametopFlametop Frets: 49
    edited June 15
    poopot said:
    Talk to @lonestar it’ll be better than anything you can get for the same money!...

    This. Or @rexter . Build your own. I put a high spec strat together for ~£700. Way happier than I would have been with anything I could have bought.
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  • lonestarlonestar Frets: 2011
    poopot said:
    Talk to @lonestar it’ll be better than anything you can get for the same money!...
    Thank you. I do wonder why, given the talent that posts business updates and progress here on the forum, that they don’t get mentioned more. 

    The Americans aren’t the only ones who can build a bolt on...
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  • rexterrexter Frets: 176
    lonestar said:
    poopot said:
    Talk to @lonestar it’ll be better than anything you can get for the same money!...
    Thank you. I do wonder why, given the talent that posts business updates and progress here on the forum, that they don’t get mentioned more. 

    The Americans aren’t the only ones who can build a bolt on...
    I agree Scott, I think things are slowly changing though. I've had MJT, Musikraft, Lentz & Custom Shop guitars and bodies through my hands in the last few years and - of course this will sound massively biased - I know that you, I or many of the other finishers and builders on here can easily equal or better the quality and feel of them.

    And save people £00s in import duty, long shipping waits and all the other stuff. We've also got a plethora of incredible pickup builders, luthiers and parts suppliers over here now. What I am seeing is more Americans interested in UK brands which is interesting, perhaps because the dollar is stronger than it was and the pound weaker, but more optimistically I think it's because a lot of good stuff is happening over here right now. And it's about brand recognition and challengers facing up to the established names who still dominate things.
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  • lonestarlonestar Frets: 2011
    rexter said:
    lonestar said:
    poopot said:
    Talk to @lonestar it’ll be better than anything you can get for the same money!...
    Thank you. I do wonder why, given the talent that posts business updates and progress here on the forum, that they don’t get mentioned more. 

    The Americans aren’t the only ones who can build a bolt on...
    I agree Scott, I think things are slowly changing though. I've had MJT, Musikraft, Lentz & Custom Shop guitars and bodies through my hands in the last few years and - of course this will sound massively biased - I know that you, I or many of the other finishers and builders on here can easily equal or better the quality and feel of them.

    And save people £00s in import duty, long shipping waits and all the other stuff. We've also got a plethora of incredible pickup builders, luthiers and parts suppliers over here now. What I am seeing is more Americans interested in UK brands which is interesting, perhaps because the dollar is stronger than it was and the pound weaker, but more optimistically I think it's because a lot of good stuff is happening over here right now. And it's about brand recognition and challengers facing up to the established names who still dominate things.
    Absolutely, I’m always surprised when I see eBay listings for American bodies. Do people REALLY pay £400+ for that stuff? Wow. 

    Yes, Pickups... the UK has lots of extremely good pickup makers. I could name 10 very easily as I’m sure you could too. 

    “Made in the UK” is something we should be proud of, but as a guitar playing bunch, we’re  not. Sure, with amps (I’d imagine because back In the day it was US Guitars and UK amps that produced the tones we were used to) and I know this will be hard to shift.

    But MJT didn’t exist back then, nor did fender custom shop. And everyone is right... £2500+ for an aged guitar? Really? The reason these guitars cost so much is due to overheads. I am one person, as you are @rexter and you’re probably taking your wage the same as any other joe bloggs out there. These larger companies have a lot of costs to cover. You can spec a UK built Strat or tele for under £1500 easily and you’ll probably get a lovely tweed case included not to mention top quality components.

    I think we should pat ourselves on the back more than we currently do.
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3863
    ICBM said:
    Strat54 said:
    Personally I'd give the non-Fender relics a miss (being tactful there!) and go for something like this Tom Anderson. You get one of the worlds finest built guitars for almost half the price when new.
    There was one of those on sale in the shop I work for, for about five years - that’s not an exaggeration. It was the most lifeless, insipid “Tele” I’ve ever played. No-one wanted it - eventually the owner took it back. 
    Is that because the bridge pickup isn't mounted properly?  For me, mounting it in the bridge is a vital part of the Tele sound.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2779
    OP, play an Anderson before you part with any cash. It is everything that an expensive Fender should be.....
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 953
    lonestar said:

    But MJT didn’t exist back then, nor did fender custom shop. And everyone is right... £2500+ for an aged guitar? Really? The reason these guitars cost so much is due to overheads. I am one person, as you are @rexter and you’re probably taking your wage the same as any other joe bloggs out there. These larger companies have a lot of costs to cover. You can spec a UK built Strat or tele for under £1500 easily and you’ll probably get a lovely tweed case included not to mention top quality components.

    I think we should pat ourselves on the back more than we currently do.
    I disagree. I think £1500 buys you a Nash type relic with little attention to detail where as £2500 plus buys you an absolute masterpiece like those done buy the likes of Carson Hess. You can't compare the two really, not if you the sort of buyer with an eye for detail. 
    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/52ceb442e4b08a92bb98be74/54be6f6de4b0e0f45dac8164/574e402086db431ed512718b/1525050937998/IMG_E5423%5B1%5D.JPG?format=1000w
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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 953
    ICBM said:
    Strat54 said:
    Personally I'd give the non-Fender relics a miss (being tactful there!) and go for something like this Tom Anderson. You get one of the worlds finest built guitars for almost half the price when new.
    There was one of those on sale in the shop I work for, for about five years - that’s not an exaggeration. It was the most lifeless, insipid “Tele” I’ve ever played. No-one wanted it - eventually the owner took it back. 
    That must have been the one at Strung Out guitars then. Wondered why it was there so long, I blamed it on the worlds worst website with no SEO. Very unusual to get an Anderson like that though. The guitar I have linked to has a video,  plus its a solid body where as most are hollow. I think that lends its self better to a Tele or rather what we perceive a Tele should sound like. Then again Hollow-T's are featured on hundreds of successful recordings and gigged by many artists at the top level, so who knows.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33229
    crunchman said:

    Is that because the bridge pickup isn't mounted properly?  For me, mounting it in the bridge is a vital part of the Tele sound.
    I certainly think it's an important factor.

    Strat54 said:

    That must have been the one at Strung Out guitars then. Wondered why it was there so long, I blamed it on the worlds worst website with no SEO.
    Their website (and especially photography) is shite, yes - I've moaned about it over and over but never got anywhere :). That's not the only reason though - loads of people looked at it in the shop over the years, but no-one liked it.

    Strat54 said:

    Very unusual to get an Anderson like that though.
    Every Anderson of any description I've played has been similar, although not as bad as that one. I just don't get them at all. Perfectly made, and perfectly dull.

    Having the most offensively bland headstock on any guitar probably doesn't help either.
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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 953
    edited June 15
  • TA22GTTA22GT Frets: 352
    Have a word with Dave Dearnaley. He specialises in Tele's and Strats and he actually makes them from raw wood himself.

     He also paints them and everything is done In-House. No farming out.

    Here is a Tele he made me to match my 83 Tokai Strat.


    And a Strat he made...


    Matching necks...



    He's just finished me another Tele.  Single bound in Seafoam Green with Braz fingerboard. I collect it next weekend.

    All within your budget.

    Of course I am biased!!!!!
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2779
    Keith playing a six string! What next?
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • lonestarlonestar Frets: 2011
    Strat54 said:
    lonestar said:

    But MJT didn’t exist back then, nor did fender custom shop. And everyone is right... £2500+ for an aged guitar? Really? The reason these guitars cost so much is due to overheads. I am one person, as you are @rexter and you’re probably taking your wage the same as any other joe bloggs out there. These larger companies have a lot of costs to cover. You can spec a UK built Strat or tele for under £1500 easily and you’ll probably get a lovely tweed case included not to mention top quality components.

    I think we should pat ourselves on the back more than we currently do.
    I disagree. I think £1500 buys you a Nash type relic with little attention to detail where as £2500 plus buys you an absolute masterpiece like those done buy the likes of Carson Hess. You can't compare the two really, not if you the sort of buyer with an eye for detail. 
    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/52ceb442e4b08a92bb98be74/54be6f6de4b0e0f45dac8164/574e402086db431ed512718b/1525050937998/IMG_E5423%5B1%5D.JPG?format=1000w
    I was meaning fender Relics at £2500+. The nash guitars I have seen in person aren’t great either tbh. And £1500 wouldn’t do it either... £2000 from what I saw. I don’t think I did too badly with this one tbf...

    https://i.imgur.com/PjI6tmN.jpg
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  • TA22GTTA22GT Frets: 352
    @lonestar ;  Very nice indeed!
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3863
    edited June 15

    The problem I have with most Teles is the control layout.  The pickup switch is too close to the volume control. Ideally the volume would be a bit closer as well.  Steve Cropper has it about right.

     Edit: Tried to post a link to picture of the Steve Cropper Sig Peavey and failed.  Would want traditional single coil pickups but a control layout like that.  I have thought about going to someone like Eternal and getting a custom build for that reason, as it's very hard to find a Tele with a traditional bridge and pickups that doesn't have the traditional control plate.

    The worst thing is when people like Anderson mess up the recipe (like the one above) they still keep the control plate.

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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2779
    On the Steve Croper sig guitar, what does the little toggle switch (at the end) do?
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 953
    crunchman said:

    The problem I have with most Teles is the control layout.  The pickup switch is too close to the volume control. Ideally the volume would be a bit closer as well.  Steve Cropper has it about right.

     Edit: Tried to post a link to picture of the Steve Cropper Sig Peavey and failed.  Would want traditional single coil pickups but a control layout like that.  I have thought about going to someone like Eternal and getting a custom build for that reason, as it's very hard to find a Tele with a traditional bridge and pickups that doesn't have the traditional control plate.

    The worst thing is when people like Anderson mess up the recipe (like the one above) they still keep the control plate.

    Rutters have the cure with their 3/8ths over plate, I refit pretty much all my Tele's with these and their other hardware. Marc makes the best, period.

    http://www.ruttersguitars.com/uploads/3-8_in_Over_Plate_1.jpg

    http://www.ruttersguitars.com/Hot_Rod_Parts.html


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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 9548
    I’m not sure how Nash get so many buyers - the square edges on their fretboards totally defeat the point of relics imo. Absolutely horrible 

    But MJTs stuff is up there with all the Fender CS guitars I’ve played.

    As for Teles, @crunchman , look at the Musikding control plate. They do a custom one with the volume pot moves a smidge away from the switch. Makes a huge difference and I wouldn’t have a Tele with a regular plate now. Fender should make it a standard part on all their modern Teles 


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  • KKJaleKKJale Frets: 656
    Do you have a linky for that control plate @stickyfiddle ?
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 9548
    KKJale said:
    Do you have a linky for that control plate @stickyfiddle ?
    I may have remembered wrong - looks like it’s rockinger not musikding, but anyways...

    https://www.rockinger.com/index.php/en/Rockinger-Control-Plate-for-Tele%2C-SPECIAL/c-WG152/a-2500C


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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 5864
    edited June 15
    I liked this Palir T-Style (Apple Tree) with Porter Custom Tele Pickups the first time I heard it in this Brett Kingman demo

    https://tonereport.com/uploads/img/palir-needs-edit_reduced.jpg






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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 105
    http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/115783/telecaster-build-finally-done-pics-lots-of#latest

    This is is my tele build. Rutters saddles and control layout. Met body and musikraft neck.

    best tele I have ever played, ageing beautifully! Get so many comments on the playability and sound and looks if it. It feels like an old friend :) classic saying.

    i feel if the neck and body are tight fitting, good quality woods and neck has to be the best you can afford then you get a good guitar.


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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 105
    I do agree after seeing the pics from sc relics and everyone else they as good
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3863
    Rocker said:
    On the Steve Croper sig guitar, what does the little toggle switch (at the end) do?
    Don't know.  I'm quite happy with standard pickups and switching.  It's the control layout that I don't like on a conventional Tele.  If you lose the little toggle, thta Steve Cropper looks like good positioning for the volume, tone and selector switch.
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