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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 19
    Yeah its a bit metal a lot of the demos. There are some crunch sounds in clip i posted after review link... Let me see if can find anything else.  I did see a good blues and rock one before i pulled trigger on mine.

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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 19
    One of guys on fb group did these wee bits on souncloud.  Cover some rock tones https://m.soundcloud.com/user-287633945/digitech-gsp1101-fender-twin-65-evh-5150-ac30tb-jcm-800

    Will look again later as did find a good rock tone vid before i bought mine but canny see it now.  If no luck I'll get one of my talented mates to play through it.  He's seriously good (ac/dc and classic rock through his veins) lent him my spare unit and he loved it.  Took me months to get it back off him
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 19
    Only rocky stuff i can find so far that's recorded reasonably a zz top cover.  Will keep looking as examples are at least useful to help people narrow down if its worth a look for their style of music.



    And another by same guy with gsp


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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 616
    edited June 19
    Sounds great! Just when I thought I'd decided on an Amplifire Box! Love that you could just slide this and one of those Harley Benton rack mounted power amps into a small rack unit and have a super versatile and cheap setup for at home and rehearsals/gigs.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 19
    TTBZ said:
    Sounds great! Just when I thought I'd decided on an Amplifire Box! Love that you could just slide this and one of those Harley Benton rack mounted power amps into a small rack unit and have a super versatile and cheap setup for at home and rehearsals/gigs.

    I plan on slotting one In a combo and popping light neodium driver in it for same purpose.  I also have main 4u which has a GT trio (midi board) preamp in gsp's loop.  one of those little light weight padded 2u rack bags would likely be ideal for your thinking.

    Used it weekly at jam i ran straight to pa too so dead handy if amp fails.  Select an IR cleverly that matches your cab well and as well as IR by patch you can apply one globally and just to xlr outs.

    sure the amplifire box would do a great job too and if it comes to it I'll bet some things it does better and some gsp does better.  However the floor board is really good for gsp.  Proper heavy and very well built so with guitar on wireless you have a single cat 5 on stage and nothing else.
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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 530
    TTBZ said:
    Sounds great! Just when I thought I'd decided on an Amplifire Box! Love that you could just slide this and one of those Harley Benton rack mounted power amps into a small rack unit and have a super versatile and cheap setup for at home and rehearsals/gigs.
    I was planning on either running it in 4CM with my valve amp or straight into a EHX 44 Magnum. The option of applying a global IR to the XLRs is a really cool feature for a FoH feed.

    Is it pretty easy to load IRs? I don't really want  to disappear down an IR rabbit hole so any recommendations for a handful of good ones to try out would be much appreciated!


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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    TTBZ said:
    Sounds great! Just when I thought I'd decided on an Amplifire Box! Love that you could just slide this and one of those Harley Benton rack mounted power amps into a small rack unit and have a super versatile and cheap setup for at home and rehearsals/gigs.
    I was planning on either running it in 4CM with my valve amp or straight into a EHX 44 Magnum. The option of applying a global IR to the XLRs is a really cool feature for a FoH feed.

    Is it pretty easy to load IRs? I don't really want  to disappear down an IR rabbit hole so any recommendations for a handful of good ones to try out would be much appreciated!


    Software called GIRL allows you to load up to 10.  Then you csn pick one for global out thr 10 with a few presses in menu.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    I'd start by finding some IR's from cab that's got a similar setup and driver type as your amp.  most of the big makes produce very good IR's.  Other alternative is we could try and see how hard it would be to use your normal amp and mic to actually create an IR for your rig.  That's a new one for me at moment but thinking i like idea for myself too.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    Another clever idea.... Your in a cover band with just one guitarist and you want to make it sound bigger.

    GSP's have reached price having 2 in rack would still not be that silly expensive.

    get an aby and feed both gsp's inputs. turn midi pass through on unit one hook it up with midi to unit 2.  Now your control 2 will switch both units.  Set up some rhythm presets with different sounds on both say a clean valve amp sound on one and a edging into od on the other and save em with same preset number.  Add a slight delay on one.  Set main unit near centre and maybe 2nd a little off centre on mixer.

    Voila you will sound like 2 guitarists.  You can set some programs so both units are the same for solos and set beside program for rhythm.  Or use aby to turn off the one not needed for solo.  A midi controlled aby may be just the ticket here as you could program your solo stomp to also send out midi command to switch aby to just unit A maybe.

    John

     
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    @gearaddict ; particularly if looking for a Marshall sound as well as the 5 Marshall amp models also check out the digitech Brown Sound amp model (very good at Marshall sound) and was added with c63
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    Amp models

    Fender Tweed Champ
    Fender Tweed Deluxe
    Fender Tweed Bassman
    Fender Brownface Bassman
    Fender Blackface Twin Reverb
    Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb
    Marshall JTM-45
    Marshall 100-watt Super Lead (Plexi)
    Marshall JMP (channels jumpered) (non-master volume)
    Marshall JMP 2203 (master volume)
    Marshall JCM800
    Marshall JCM900
    Marshall JCM2000 (lead channel)
    Vox AC15
    Vox AC30 Top Boost
    Hiwatt Custom 100 DR103
    Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC
    Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier
    Carvin Legacy VL100
    Matchless HC-30
    Soldano SLO100
    DigiTech 2101 Clean Tube (DigiTech original design from GSP2101 unit)
    DigiTech 2101 Artist Clean Tube (DigiTech original design from GSP2101 Artist unit)
    DigiTech 2101 Artist Saturated Tube (DigiTech original design from GSP2101 Artist unit)
    DigiTech Solo (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Metal (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Bright Clean (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Chunk (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Crunch (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Blues (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Fuzz (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Spank (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech High Gain (DigiTech original design)
    Dreadnought acoustic guitar simulator
    Jumbo acoustic guitar simulator

    New in C63

    Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier
    Mesa/Boogie Studio .22 Caliber
    Matchless Chieftain
    Laney Supergroup
    Gibson GA-40
    Orange OR120
    Peavey 5150
    Raven RG100
    Roland JC-120
    Sunn 100S
    DigiTech Monster (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Tweedface (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Black Bassman (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Stoner Rock (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Dark Metal (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Transistor (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Transistor (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Brown Sound (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Mosh (DigiTech original design)

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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    CAB Models
    Fender Tweed Champ 1×8
    Fender Tweed Deluxe 1×12
    Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb 1×12
    Fender Blonde Bassman 2×12
    Fender Blackface Twin Reverb 2×12
    Fender Tweed Bassman 4×10
    Vox AC15 1×12 with Vox speaker
    Vox AC30 Top Boost 2×12 with Jensen Bluebacks
    Marshall 1969 Straight 4×12 with Celestion G12T-75 speakers
    Marshall 1969 Slant 4×12 with Celestion G12M-25 Greenback speakers
    Hiwatt Custom 4×12 with Fane speakers
    VHT Slant 4×12 with Celestion Vintage 30 speakers
    Johnson Straight 4×12 with Celestion Vintage 30 speakers
    DigiTech Bright 2×12 (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Solo 4×12 (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Metal 4×12 (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Rock 4×12 (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Alt Rock 4×12 (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Vintage 4×12 (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Chunk 4×12 (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Spank 4×12 (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Speaker Compensation 4×12 (DigiTech original design)

    New in C63
    Gibson GA40 1×12
    Roland JC120 2×12
    Mesa Rectifier 4×12
    10 user loaded impulse responses
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 20
    Stomps

    Wah
    Dunlop GCB95 Crybaby
    Vox V848 Clyde McCoy
    DigiTech Full Range (DigiTech original design)

    Compressor
    Boss CS-2 Compression Sustainer
    MXR M102 Dyna Comp
    DigiTech Compressor (DigiTech original design)

    Distortion/Overdrive/Fuzz
    Ibanez TS9
    Ibanez TS808
    Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive
    Guyatone OD-2
    DOD Overdrive Preamp 250
    DOD FX13 Gonkulator Modulator
    DOD FX52 Classic Fuzz
    Pro Co RAT
    MXR M104 Distortion+
    Boss MT-2 Metal Zone
    Boss DS-1 Distortion
    DigiTech DGR Grunge
    DigiTech DDM Death Metal
    Roger Mayer Octavia
    Demeter FUZ-1 Fuzzulator
    Arbiter Fuzz Face
    Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi

    Chorus
    Boss CE-2
    TC Electronic SCF Stereo Chorus+ (chorus model only)
    DigiTech Multi Chorus (DigiTech original pedal)
    DigiTech Dual Chorus (DigiTech original design)

    Flanger
    MXR M117R Flanger
    Electro-Harmonix Electric Mistress
    DigiTech Flanger (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Triggered Flanger (DigiTech original design)

    Phaser
    MXR M107 Phase 100
    Electro-Harmonix Small Stone
    DigiTech Phaser (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Triggered Phaser (DigiTech original design)

    Delay
    Mastro Echoplex EP-2
    Boss DM-2 Analog Delay
    DigiTech Analog Delay (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Digital Delay (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Modulated Delay (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Ping Pong Delay (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Tape Delay (DigiTech original design)

    Reverb
    Fender Twin Spring Reverb
    EMT 240 Plate Reverb
    Lexicon Ambience (Lexicon authorized genuine model)
    Lexicon Studio (Lexicon authorized genuine model)
    Lexicon Room (Lexicon authorized genuine model)
    Lexicon Hall (Lexicon authorized genuine model)

    Vibrato
    DigiTech Vibrato (DigiTech original design)

    Rotary Speaker
    DigiTech Rotary Speaker (DigiTech original design)

    UniVibe
    Unicord Uni-Vibe

    Tremolo/Panner
    Fender Optocoupler Tremolo
    Vox Bias Tremolo
    DigiTech Tremolo (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Panner (DigiTech original design)

    Envelope Filter
    DOD FX25 Envelope Filter
    DigiTech Envelope Filter (DigiTech original design)

    Pitch Shift
    Boss OC-2 Octave
    DigiTech Whammy (DigiTech original pedal)
    DigiTech Pitch Shift (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Harmony Pitch (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Detune (DigiTech original design)

    Miscellaneous
    DigiTech VibroPan (vibrato + automatic panner) (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech AutoYa (human vowel “yah” sound) (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech SynthTalk (dynamic envelope filter capable of synth-like tones) (DigiTech original design)
    DigiTech Step Filter (automatic random wah with square waveform) (DigiTech original design)
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    Stomps added in c63

    Distortion/Overdrive/Fuzz
    Ibanez TS9 (modified) (“Redline”)
    Ibanez TS808 (modified) (“TS Mod”)
    Fulltone OCD
    Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive
    DigiTech AmpDriver (DigiTech original design)

    EQ
    DigiTech 3-Band EQ (DigiTech original design)

    Chorus
    DigiTech Glisten Chorus (DigiTech original design)

    Tremolo
    DigiTech Scatter Tremolo (DigiTech original design)
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 20
    C63 update and xedit for c63 (the pc software to make drying up presets easy) is available here.

    http://mustbebeta.com/gsp1101/gsp1101vc63.html


    latest Windows drivers for recording/replay

    https://digitech.com/en/softwares/gsp1101-driver-v2-1-windows

    Can't find link for G.I.R.L to upload 10 IR's at once but it's avail on files section of gsp1101 group on Facebook and I'll dropbox it when I can
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  • SheldersShelders Frets: 9
    Wow- never heard of these but tempted after hearing some demos. 
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 20
    Old tech, 10yr now but gets you in same locker room as helix, kemper and ax when you have c63 firmware and good IR files loaded.

    Don't get me wrong it won't be all things for all guitarists (i tried a whole host of line6 stuff and they just don't suit my ears but then some love L6 stuff (i guess diff ears are sensitive to different aspects of sound)) but at price point there isn't much similar with such good performance that seems capable of clean, early breakup, crouch, hotroded and metal sounds.  It doesn't stack distortions as in same block as each other and can have one from up to 6 blocks at same time.  Solo boost annoys me as really need to set it for each preset whether it comes from a distortion stomp or adding a preset volume boost to one of buttons or so on.

    So biggest downsides are non stackable distortion pedals and there isn't just a global boost for solo.

    I have a cunning plan to use a volume pedal with a varible setting for minimum plugged into exp 1/4" on control 2 to solve that.


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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 530
    Top tips in here :) I won't be able to pick up my one until early next week probably. Looking forward to playing with it though!
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3325
    I've managed to remove the ground type hun using the wireless as expected .However now I'm recording with it I'm getting a horrible high pitched fizz as if it's interfering from the computer. You don't hear it through the monitors (headphone output to monitors) only through the USB recording. So now I'm having to record to a multi track and hopefully import that onto the computer.

    Anybody else have this problem? Not sure if it's a gsp problem or a computer one

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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 24
    You installed the asio drivers on computer and selected the gsp device directly in the recording software?  ie so its not using windows driver and going through windows mixer 

    Always worth asking this on the gsp1101 user group on Facebook as loads of people who use it regularly and some very knowledgeable users on there.
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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 530
    That video isn't working for me...

    So, got my GSP1101 yesterday and I've played around a little bit. When I first plugged it in it sounded really muffled but then I discovered the output had been set to 'front of amp' and I was running it into a power amp...fixing that setting sorted the problem.

    It's interesting...it sounds really good. I don't have a Helix any more but it feels like a similar amount better than my Pod HD500. There's a huge trade-off in flexibility...you can't change the order of effects and can only have one effect in each block - so, you can only have 1 distortion pedal at a time, for example. This just wouldn't work for a lot of people who want multiple amps, stacked drive pedals, multiple delays and complex routing in their patches. For me, I actually see it as a bonus...I don't want lots of options - I just want the basics and for it to sound good. Which is what this does, for a couple of hundred quid.

    My only niggle is the form factor really. It's 2 things to organise (rack unit and controller), rather than a single floorboard like the Helix or the Pod. I would probably use it into my valve amp or with a 44 Magnum so I don't think it makes sense to get a rack case but it just feels a bit odd having a rack unit sitting on my amp. I need some kind of nifty solution for that!

    So I'm still a bit unsure whether to keep the Pod or the GSP1101...the quality of sound of the GSP is loads better than the Pod. But I will probably mostly end up using 4CM anyway and the pod does that pretty well and is a single thing to carry and set up. I'll play a bit more with it today.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 26
    Advantage of rack is 4 cable then has very short runs and you don't have loads of cables running over stage just a single one for floorboard.  I have a wee 4u case and usually sit it vertically beside amp but do think a wee padded 4u would be fine (besides seen loads of big bands with rack stuff beside an amp).

    Once you start playing and get sounds you want dialled in I imagine you'll find sound (esspecially if you go direct recording or direct to desk at any point) possibly feels a bit less synthetic than helix (but only a touch and i reckon some ears are sensative to whatever part of sound makes it feel like that) though it will likely come down to some models sound better/worse depending on model so each will have their wins.  And when you get 4 cable so can switch between internal preamps with efx round it and internal preamps... Digitech brown sound amp model can also be good for a Marshall sound.  Gsp also doesn't seem to suffer getting lost in mix even on models which is good.

    Make sure its updated to c63 firmware (even tuner is so good you won't need external).  I'd probs run a full system reset on it to makes sure not some funny settings been changed.  if going 4 cable set loop to preamp, set 1/4" to power amp with no cab modelling, Set xlr to modelled, PA output (and set LPF on for xlr).  There is a +4 and -10 db on back for loop so if amps loop is a newer +4db select +4 to reduce volume at loop return. May not make a difference as not sure if fixed by c63 but try moving compressor to after loop (even switched off set to zero) it should improve sound quality.  Xedit can be handy for setting up prests and make it dead easy but if you tweak live via preamp controls or turn a stomp off then store button will let you re-save

    Got a few plans that i am trying to decide between at moment.  I have my 4u with gsp and trio preamp in it.  But want to make something flexible and not too heavy for a grab and go jam, practise, light option.  At moment thoughts are fit a gsp into a second hand combo, padded 2u with a 1u power amp (like a palmer or marshall) and a 1x12 cab.

    You can even build in some really clever stuff... Nux pms2 would allow you to have presets switch amp channel or amps reverb on/off or set amps boost.  A midi loop controller in front and you could add some fave distortion pedals in front of system and the preset or a stomp button can be set to turn them on/off.  And still only need control 2 in front of you.

    Sure you'll enjoy it once you get going and find sound quality right up at high end of tree.  Took me a few goes to really dial in some better sounds. 

    I have a gator padded bag that fits control 2 like a glove (will measure and take pics later) as its really smart.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    The fact you won't have to mic (if you find a good matching IR) is a bonus and if ever amp doesn't behave the GSP would be a massively clear winner as direct to desk you'll really notice.  So a backup set of presets that use an amp model rather than internal amp can be a good idea.

    If you amp has a nice clean channel you'll find some amp models come alive even more fed through the clean as well.
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3325
    I'd like to have a clear out and use the resulting space and money for more useful things, which would in theory be good for using the GSP as the main feature of my guitar setup but as others have said the problem is in practice, requiring a massive floor board (that would have doubled the cost of the unit for me as well) to be able to turn a fuzz on and off mid song is a bit of an annoying catch. Pressing three menu buttons and twiddling the knob to kick a fuzz in for a chorus is a bit of a mood killer Haha.

    Are there perhaps smaller controllers that would allow say having four basic tone presets, and to switch one effect per preset on and off with a switch? Would that work?

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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    edited June 26
    Midi is comprehensive in gsp and can easily set up a small midi board to just control the stomps.  though on stage i find the floor board lovely (sits in at base of mic stand and only one wire makes it a joy on stage).  

    but if you found a simple 4 or 5 button compact midi board you can very easily make that a stomp controller.  Think it even mentions that in c63 document.  Will check and link
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 197
    Page 48/49 on gsp1101 manual covers midi and particularly CC mapping.  You can set any incoming midi CC 0-127 to be any of the stomp or expression controls.  So say you have a basic pedal with 5 buttons that send 1-5 then in the CC mapping you tell gsp what to do when it sees a 1 or 2 and so on.
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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 530
    Yeah, I do like the foot controller - first time I have had a really clear screen telling me exactly what is going on when I hit a switch. Also, a slightly smaller footprint than the HD500X. The expression pedal on mine was squeaky when I got it but a quick squirt of switch cleaner sorted that out :)

    Again - less flexibility than something like the Helix where you can assign anything to anything...but for me, the layout is spot on anyway so I wouldn't need to make any changes.
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3325
    mr-mac said:
    Page 48/49 on gsp1101 manual covers midi and particularly CC mapping.  You can set any incoming midi CC 0-127 to be any of the stomp or expression controls.  So say you have a basic pedal with 5 buttons that send 1-5 then in the CC mapping you tell gsp what to do when it sees a 1 or 2 and so on.
    Ah right OK but I'd presumably need an 8 switch controller to have four presets and each with a switchable stomp? Am I understanding that correctly?

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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3325
    On another note, the guitar parts on these two tracks were the GSP1101, though not through the USB interface due to the aforementioned buzzing:



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