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dean111musicdean111music Frets: 101
Hello

I'm after a good lightweight bass. I do love a good Fender Jazz but i guess i need to go and try lots out to pick out the light ones. 

What is a good average weight for a bass? 

Any recommendations? 

I do like a satin feel to the neck.

My budget for the bass is looking around £300-£400

Amp wise £200. Home practice, Aux and headphone would be a needed.  Obviously if i can get cheaper that would be great. 

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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 101
    I was looking a Fender Rumble amps and Sire or fender or Ibanez basses
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 5246
    Amp wise, I have a minty Gallien-Krueger MB108 that I’m going to depart with soon if interested, it was by far the best of the bedroom bass amps I tried and cracking value even new. Just don’t need it as I always plug into my recording interface and headphones.
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  • thermionicthermionic Frets: 4615
    Squier CV or VM, but they have gloss necks. CVs are basswood and can be quite light.

    £200 (or just over half that) will get you a lot of amp - Ampeg, Fender Rumble, or Orange.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    Got to agree with CV series - excellent for the money. 

    So are some of the Yamaha and Ibanez choices. Every time I’ve been out with a mate looking for a cheap bass for them I’ve always been really impressed with the Ibanez offerings..
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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 101
    dindude said:
    Amp wise, I have a minty Gallien-Krueger MB108 that I’m going to depart with soon if interested, it was by far the best of the bedroom bass amps I tried and cracking value even new. Just don’t need it as I always plug into my recording interface and headphones.
    please pm when you are looking to sell
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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 101
    which models did you like?
    Got to agree with CV series - excellent for the money. 

    So are some of the Yamaha and Ibanez choices. Every time I’ve been out with a mate looking for a cheap bass for them I’ve always been really impressed with the Ibanez offerings..

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    which models did you like?
    Got to agree with CV series - excellent for the money. 

    So are some of the Yamaha and Ibanez choices. Every time I’ve been out with a mate looking for a cheap bass for them I’ve always been really impressed with the Ibanez offerings..

    There was one that @darthed1981 tried which was cracking for the money - two single coils and a Jazz like neck which was peanuts and made some £1k fenders look and sound poor - which one was that Ed?

    I have an Ibanez SRH500 which I gig regularly. It’s a bit left field, but it’s flipping stunning for the money. I am a typical snob bass player - my #1 bass is a pre-CBS 1964 Precision, and I have a 74 precision as well as some tasty custom made jobs - but the Ibanez I have holds its own in that company admirably. 

    If if I pick it up after playing a bass worth 10x the money I don’t think “hmmm cheap” I think “crikey, this is bloody good”.


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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 101
    which models did you like?
    Got to agree with CV series - excellent for the money. 

    So are some of the Yamaha and Ibanez choices. Every time I’ve been out with a mate looking for a cheap bass for them I’ve always been really impressed with the Ibanez offerings..

    There was one that @darthed1981 tried which was cracking for the money - two single coils and a Jazz like neck which was peanuts and made some £1k fenders look and sound poor - which one was that Ed?

    I have an Ibanez SRH500 which I gig regularly. It’s a bit left field, but it’s flipping stunning for the money. I am a typical snob bass player - my #1 bass is a pre-CBS 1964 Precision, and I have a 74 precision as well as some tasty custom made jobs - but the Ibanez I have holds its own in that company admirably. 

    If if I pick it up after playing a bass worth 10x the money I don’t think “hmmm cheap” I think “crikey, this is bloody good”.


    Ibanez Talman?
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    which models did you like?
    Got to agree with CV series - excellent for the money. 

    So are some of the Yamaha and Ibanez choices. Every time I’ve been out with a mate looking for a cheap bass for them I’ve always been really impressed with the Ibanez offerings..

    There was one that @darthed1981 tried which was cracking for the money - two single coils and a Jazz like neck which was peanuts and made some £1k fenders look and sound poor - which one was that Ed?

    I have an Ibanez SRH500 which I gig regularly. It’s a bit left field, but it’s flipping stunning for the money. I am a typical snob bass player - my #1 bass is a pre-CBS 1964 Precision, and I have a 74 precision as well as some tasty custom made jobs - but the Ibanez I have holds its own in that company admirably. 

    If if I pick it up after playing a bass worth 10x the money I don’t think “hmmm cheap” I think “crikey, this is bloody good”.


    Ibanez Talman?
    Might have been a gsr 180 actually - certainly was one of these in the mix when we tried a load. It was really cheap as it was on sale as well. 

    I reckon the Ibanez offerings around the £400 mark are properly stunning for the cash. 


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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 1702
    which models did you like?
    Got to agree with CV series - excellent for the money. 

    So are some of the Yamaha and Ibanez choices. Every time I’ve been out with a mate looking for a cheap bass for them I’ve always been really impressed with the Ibanez offerings..

    There was one that @darthed1981 tried which was cracking for the money - two single coils and a Jazz like neck which was peanuts and made some £1k fenders look and sound poor - which one was that Ed?

    I have an Ibanez SRH500 which I gig regularly. It’s a bit left field, but it’s flipping stunning for the money. I am a typical snob bass player - my #1 bass is a pre-CBS 1964 Precision, and I have a 74 precision as well as some tasty custom made jobs - but the Ibanez I have holds its own in that company admirably. 

    If if I pick it up after playing a bass worth 10x the money I don’t think “hmmm cheap” I think “crikey, this is bloody good”.



    I think it was that one.  A while ago now!

    When I was in Andertons again I tried a couple of Ibanez' against the Sire basses they are always banging on about and found the Ibanez' far nicer to play (in my ignorant guitarist way) though a far superior factory setup helps!

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  • valevale Frets: 805
    edited June 20
    the thing you have to bear in mind with bass weight is that the balance factor involved is far more significant with a long necked bass than a shorter necked guitar. so the further away from you that maple plank gets, the heavier the block that you attach the pickups to has to be, to counter-balance it.

    so an easy way to cutting down significantly on weight is shortscale. shorter neck means lighter body (generally). there are pos & negs re shortscale but a bass is a bass, great players have made both sing, so the most important thing is what you are comfortable with. which means trying lots.

    as for recommendations, that's a taste thing, which shapes appeal to you? which don't?

    going by your wishlist so far, fender jazz-ish (jazz pickup position & thinner than average neck), a satin neck finish, lighter than average, i would suggest you try the fender-squier shortscale jaguars.

    i used to have the squier jaguar SS bass. the neck was super-slender with a fine satin finish & the shortscale jaguar bass body is smaller than the jaguar guitar body, so the ensemble was very easy to wear & guitarish fast to play. nice clippy PJ tones (jazz pickup option, so ticks that box).
    as for reservations? the pickups could be bolder & fatter if you are super fussy, but it's not a huge deal. i let them be & instead eq'd (mxr pedal) for max chunky & dialed top off on ampsim. but if you wanted you could upgrade (£200 bass + posh £pickups upgrade = £300 ish).

    bass amps i have no idea about really (beyond cheapies & make-do-s). i can't afford two good amps so my modest amp funds are all in my guitar amp. but someone like @ICBM ;;; @Funkfingers or @Bridgehouse (the resident bass ninjas, among many!) can better advise you there.

    you have plenty enough funds so best advice is to try lots before you buy anything.
    what she said.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    That’s the chap @darthed1981 !!

    I reckon you are right about setup - the Ibanez are consistently good. Not played one I didn’t get on with. 


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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 1702
    That’s the chap @darthed1981 !!

    I reckon you are right about setup - the Ibanez are consistently good. Not played one I didn’t get on with. 


    I believe you also tried this amp as did I and you had a positive opinion @Bridgehouse

    I thought it seemed tremendous fun if someone (like I was/am considering) wanted a first bass rig that inspired them to play:


    Got £35 cheaper since we tried it as well.

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    @vale gives sound advice. Try lots indeed.

    For amps, I really like the fender rumbles as small amps. I also really like the smaller markbass but they are more money. 

    The mb108 is a good amp - but I really really like the Ebs session 60

    Other than that, it can often come down to size and weight.. so again, try lots!
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  • valevale Frets: 805
    sorry for the paging after you had already landed here bridgehouse, no one had replied when i started writing. i'm slow typing tonight thanks to migraine brain!
    what she said.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    That’s the chap @darthed1981 !!

    I reckon you are right about setup - the Ibanez are consistently good. Not played one I didn’t get on with. 


    I believe you also tried this amp as did I and you had a positive opinion @Bridgehouse

    I thought it seemed tremendous fun if someone (like I was/am considering) wanted a first bass rig that inspired them to play:


    Got £35 cheaper since we tried it as well.

    Yep - that was a cracking modelling amp and made some really decent authentic sounds.
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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 101
    so the fender rumble studio 40 is better than the normal rumble amp? im going to go try loads i think :)

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    so the fender rumble studio 40 is better than the normal rumble amp? im going to go try loads i think :)

    The studio 40 does modelling and you can make it sound like a range of different bass amps. I tried it in PMT in Cambridge on a Fretboard jolly Boys day out.

    Before trying I thought it would be gimmicky shite. Within 10 mins I’d decided it was an excellent at-home amp for trying a range of different styles. Loved it for the money and it was really really bloody lightweight
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  • dean111musicdean111music Frets: 101
    so the fender rumble studio 40 is better than the normal rumble amp? im going to go try loads i think :)

    The studio 40 does modelling and you can make it sound like a range of different bass amps. I tried it in PMT in Cambridge on a Fretboard jolly Boys day out.

    Before trying I thought it would be gimmicky shite. Within 10 mins I’d decided it was an excellent at-home amp for trying a range of different styles. Loved it for the money and it was really really bloody lightweight
    nice! will give that a try for sure.

    I have Andertons, Guitar Guitar (Epsom) and GAK near me. Any other places worth travelling to? 
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    so the fender rumble studio 40 is better than the normal rumble amp? im going to go try loads i think :)

    The studio 40 does modelling and you can make it sound like a range of different bass amps. I tried it in PMT in Cambridge on a Fretboard jolly Boys day out.

    Before trying I thought it would be gimmicky shite. Within 10 mins I’d decided it was an excellent at-home amp for trying a range of different styles. Loved it for the money and it was really really bloody lightweight
    nice! will give that a try for sure.

    I have Andertons, Guitar Guitar (Epsom) and GAK near me. Any other places worth travelling to? 
    THE bass Mecca is Bass Direct near Coventry - it’s bass heaven. 
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2954
    My budget for the bass is looking around £300-£400. Amp wise £200. 
    Given a total budget of up to six hundred Pounds, I suggest that you shift the balance more towards the amplifier. 

    which [Yamaha] models did you like?
    The RBX series is a perennial favourite on the secondhand market. When keeping the price down, Yamaha cuts the right corners. Hence, the woodworking and frets are excellent. The cheap 'n' cheerful pickups and control electronics can always be upgraded in the future.

    My personal favourite is the Yamaha Attitude Plus. With an American pickup and a Gotoh 201B bridge, you have a bass guitar that will deliver professional results.




    vale said:
    sorry for the paging after you had already landed here, Bridgehouse.
    No need to apologise for that. When I first registered on this forum, gratuitously tagging Bridgehouse seemed to be a running in-joke.

    vale said:
    someone like ICBM, Funkfingers or Bridgehouse (the resident bass ninjas, among many!) can better advise you there.
    This, on the other hand, might warrant an apology - certainly to the other two. They might prefer not to be lumped in with me.  The only thing we have in common is the habit of answering the bass questions that others would pay to avoid. Bridgehouse favours the P. ICBM champions the Rick. I'm somewhere in between. This probably makes me a P/Rick.

    vale said:
    the further away from you that maple plank gets, the heavier the block that you attach the pickups to has to be, to counter-balance it.
    My Fender AVRI '63 Precision Bass weighs next to nothing. My Squier Silver Series P Bass weighs only fractionally more. Mr. Bridgehouse has a genuine original Sixties Fender bass. I expect that it weighs very little too. 
    I fear the Geeks, even when they bear GIFs.
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  • valevale Frets: 805
    edited June 20
    i posted this video in another bass thread a few weeks ago re octavey bass sounds, but happily fits the bill here too. & stocked by andertons, so near you. worth a try to see.

    a shortscale Gretsch Electromatic G2224 Jnr Bass (bridgehouse a fan of these i think, & def on my list to try because i'm a shortscale bass fan) through a Fender Rumble 40 Bass Amp.

    potentially ticks both your boxes. & prices spot on at £300-£400 each new.


    what she said.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    @Funkfingers - au contraire blackadder!

    I would rate the P/Rick comment as one of the funniest of the week/month/year. You always give good advice - even when you disagree with me ;)

    I have tried an Attitude Plus and it was very good so in agreement there. 

    My 64 P is pretty much 8lbs dead on - so pretty light. Strangely the 74 I have isn’t much more, and my recent ACG is only 7. I like my light basses.


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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    vale said:
    sorry for the paging after you had already landed here bridgehouse, no one had replied when i started writing. i'm slow typing tonight thanks to migraine brain!
    I missed this! Don’t worry - I don’t mind a quick tag every now and then.. lol
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 31142
    @Funkfingers - au contraire blackadder!

    I would rate the P/Rick comment as one of the funniest of the week/month/year. You always give good advice - even when you disagree with me ;)

    And me :).

    The P/Rick was funny...

    I will have to concede in this case that you can't get any kind of worthwhile Rick for £400 ;). (Or even £600.) Anyway, the OP wants a Jazz-type, which is fair enough. There's a lot of choice in this style/price range.

    All I would really add is - I don't actually agree with Funkfingers about spending more on the amp. If it was for gigging, yes - but for home and recording you can get a pretty good amp for under £200, so I would spend as much as possible on the bass and not reduce it by spending more on the amp.

    And I would also avoid active basses if possible - I know this is not a fashionable opinion, but I've always found cheaper actives *reduce* the sound quality of the signal, even if they add more EQ control. If you're on a budget you're better off with quality woodwork and pickups than active circuitry.

    That said, if you go second hand you can still get a decent active bass for under £400. @AuldReekie just picked up a nice Yamaha (I can't remember the model number) for just under £300, which although not a Jazz style is a very versatile pro-quality bass, and ideal for recording even without an amp.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • valevale Frets: 805
    @vale gives sound advice. Try lots indeed.
    i think she makes it all up as she goes along & very occasionally guesses lucky!
    what she said.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13586
    vale said:
    @vale gives sound advice. Try lots indeed.
    i think she makes it all up as she goes along & very occasionally guesses lucky!
    I disagree:

    vale said:


    a shortscale Gretsch Electromatic G2224 Jnr Bass (bridgehouse a fan of these i think, & def on my list to try because i'm a shortscale bass fan) through a Fender Rumble 40 Bass Amp.


    Indeed I think these are an excellent choice - so a solid recommendation, and not a lucky guess at all! The Gretsch is quirky but very usable, and lightweight to boot - as well as being well made. As I have commented before, I think it out Hofner's a Hofner.. and the Fender Rumble 40 is a sound choice too. The Studio 40 I tried recently was really good for the money and the biggest shock was the fact it weighed about the same as one of my shoes (!)
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  • valevale Frets: 805
    edited June 21
    ICBM said:

    I will have to concede in this case that you can't get any kind of worthwhile Rick for £400 . (Or even £600.)
    What about a Tokai copy? I haven't tried the basses but the Tokai Ricky guitar copies i have tried were really good for a couple or three hundred. the necks were bang on Ricky slim & glossy. & far better than squier fender copies in the same price range.
    one here. but definitely a case of 'try before you buy'.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tokai-Bass-Guitar-Hardcase/163104300849

    if you want something fendery & throughly decent used for £300 and under, there's a brand called Fenix that made some much respected fender copies in the 1990s. maybe worth watching out for locally. when they come up on gumtree (not so much ebay, which has a bigger audience) they are often underpriced as the brand is not widely known

    or, working along lines of 'light with slimish neck' maybe a better quality through-neck 1980s jap? a random thing i noticed recently, by way of illustration.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Westbury-Track-4-Bass-Guitar-Project-Matsumoku-JAPAN-/163081751044

    i find 'mining the used seam' far more fun & inspiring than buying new & off the shelf. & it's a good strategy around your own subconscious brand biases.
    eg when you pick up something you have never come across before & know nothing of, you can't filter it through habitual prejudices, you have to approach it with an open mind & engage with it on its own terms.
    you can learn lots about what you really want, not what you think you want, by going off piste.
    what she said.
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