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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    vale said:

     & you don't even have to learn chords.
    You are SO missing out...  go learn some bass chords, go on.. dare ya.. it's awesome...
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 2043
    I tried out a few around the £200 mark as was looking to get one myself.  Personally I found the Ibanez ones in this price range superior to the Squiers and the Sire ones in Andertons.  However, the Ibanez seem to have a far superior factory setup, so it's likely with a bit of TLC and a look at the nut, the others would be just as good.
    Warning: this post may contain overtly affectionate references to Mary Spender
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    vale said:

     & you don't even have to learn chords.
    You are SO missing out...  go learn some bass chords, go on.. dare ya.. it's awesome...
    Insert Billy Sheehan, Les Claypool or Lemmy video content here. :)
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2706
    vale said:
    vale said:
    if you are a guitarist, looking to drift into bass, then ...
    ... don't.

    Either commit fully or don't bother. (You'll love it. It's a way of life.)

    plus it's easier. four fat strings, hard-to-miss wide frets & you don't even have to learn chords.

    Yeah, a major difference is that bass playing is all about the song (the music). When I took up bass I had to learn the rudiments of music theory whereas before, playing guitar, I did not, or believed I did not, need to know any theory to play guitar.

    Bass is a whole different world. You will either love it or you will love it.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    Rocker said:
    vale said:
    vale said:
    if you are a guitarist, looking to drift into bass, then ...
    ... don't.

    Either commit fully or don't bother. (You'll love it. It's a way of life.)

    plus it's easier. four fat strings, hard-to-miss wide frets & you don't even have to learn chords.

    Yeah, a major difference is that bass playing is all about the song (the music). When I took up bass I had to learn the rudiments of music theory whereas before, playing guitar, I did not, or believed I did not, need to know any theory to play guitar.

    Bass is a whole different world. You will either love it or you will love it.
    Playing bass has made me think about how a song or piece of music works more than any other instrument. 

    Writing bass lines for original songs in our band has been has been more rewarding than any other writing too. It really has been brilliant
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  • ricorico Frets: 854
    To be honest i'll probably never play it through anything other than Bias amp on the laptop or just unplugged. I was noodling on a Jazz-a-like at the studio and that seemed absolutely fine in terms of scale and neck size - do the neck specs differ wildly from manufacturer to manufacturer?


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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    rico said:
    To be honest i'll probably never play it through anything other than Bias amp on the laptop or just unplugged. I was noodling on a Jazz-a-like at the studio and that seemed absolutely fine in terms of scale and neck size - do the neck specs differ wildly from manufacturer to manufacturer?


    Not hugely - a Jazz will be something around 38 to 40mm and a Precision something around 40-42mm (unless it’s vintage spec as a P in which case it may be as much as 44mm)
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 8910
    vale said:
    plus it's easier. four fat strings, hard-to-miss wide frets & you don't even have to learn chords.
    On the contrary. Although you may not have to finger them in the same way that guitarists do, you need to know their construction and how to arpeggiate them. Try playing rock'n'roll or blues bass lines without knowing dominant arpeggios!

    IMO you need just as much scale theory to make a good bass line as a guitarist needs to make a good solo.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    vale said:
    plus it's easier. four fat strings, hard-to-miss wide frets & you don't even have to learn chords.
    On the contrary. Although you may not have to finger them in the same way that guitarists do, you need to know their construction and how to arpeggiate them. Try playing rock'n'roll or blues bass lines without knowing dominant arpeggios!

    IMO you need just as much scale theory to make a good bass line as a guitarist needs to make a good solo.
    Agreed. I have learned more new theory since going bass than I ever did with guitar. Especially with chord inversions, scales and harmonies. The theory has added some really nice sounding runs to my bass lines which are definitely a product of the theory
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 2350
    After today's bass revelations for me
    Have you finally seen the light and renounced frets?

    You're not helping. Desperately trying to tell myself this is a bad idea...


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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    JezWynd said:
    After today's bass revelations for me
    Have you finally seen the light and renounced frets?

    You're not helping. Desperately trying to tell myself this is a bad idea...


    If that’s a bad idea then I’m a talented guitarist. I think fretless basses sound brilliant - my talent says otherwise.
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    edited July 1
    vale said:
    you don't even have to learn chords.
    You are SO missing out...  go learn some bass chords, go on.. dare ya.. it's awesome...
    Alternatively, retune your E string down a tone to D. Immediately, your bottom three strings form a power chord that can be held with one finger (or, even, one thumb). 

    fretless bass
    Yup. The DADG tuning, one finger, chord trick even works on fretless instruments.
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    vale said:
    you don't even have to learn chords.
    You are SO missing out...  go learn some bass chords, go on.. dare ya.. it's awesome...
    Alternatively, retune your E string down a tone to D. Immediately, your bottom three strings form a power chord that can be held with one finger (or, even, one thumb). 

    fretless bass
    Yup. The DADG tuning, one finger, chord trick even works on fretless instruments.

    But power chords are seldom used in my usual German oompah band setting..
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    Root 'n' fifth stuff, huh?

    If you adopted a touchboard-style hammer-on/pull-off playing technique for your left hand, it would leave your right arm free for more important activities. 
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    Root 'n' fifth stuff, huh?

    If you adopted a touchboard-style hammer-on/pull-off playing technique for your left hand, it would leave your right arm free for more important activities. 
    Yes. The right hand is for a 2 litre stein of  Rauchbier and the lifting of a big fat sausage 
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    "It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. You'll love it. It's a way of life."


    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    Bridgehouse said:
    a big fat sausage 
    Is it worth seeing how far this euphemism can be pushed before the Modmins intervene? ;)
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 8910
    I bought a fretted bass because although I liked my fretless it took me about 3 weeks to get back into playing in tune - because I wasn't playing it all the time (first instrument is guitar). If I played it frequently I think I'd have had another fretless but I needed something I could pick up every 2 months and still play it in tune. So it has frets.

    Equally importantly, it has 5 strings. That means I can get on the 5th string from frets 5-9 the same notes that on a 4 string bass I would have to go to 4th string frets 0-4 for. So I save myself a position shift and lots of stretching over those long distance frets. Playing in the 5th (or at a pinch the 3rd) position suits me well enough.

    My bass is an RBX 375. I put flatwounds on it. :)
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    Equally importantly, it has 5 strings. That means I can get on the 5th string from frets 5-9 the same notes that on a 4 string bass I would have to go to 4th string frets 0-4 for. So I save myself a position shift and lots of stretching over those long distance frets. Playing in the 5th (or at a pinch the 3rd) position suits me well enough.
    The 2019 Reith Lecture will be delivered by Professor Bridgehouse. In this, he will explain why it is morally reprehensible to have more than four strings on a bass guitar.  

    #MeFour
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    Equally importantly, it has 5 strings. That means I can get on the 5th string from frets 5-9 the same notes that on a 4 string bass I would have to go to 4th string frets 0-4 for. So I save myself a position shift and lots of stretching over those long distance frets. Playing in the 5th (or at a pinch the 3rd) position suits me well enough.
    The 2019 Reith Lecture will be delivered by Professor Bridgehouse. In this, he will explain why it is morally reprehensible to have more than four strings on a bass guitar.  

    #MeFour
    “And Moses maketh his way up the Mountain, and behold there he lay prostrate upon the ground and the Lord our God appeareth to him.

    ”Lo, The Strat shall have three pickups, neck, middle and bridge, and behold, the Telecaster shall but have two. Neck, and bridge. And the bridge shall hath a baseplate of metal. And the Bass shall hath four strings. Not three, nor five or six or seven, For they are the numbers of Satan.”

    Thus spake the Lord, and Moses did descend from the mountain and did sayeth unto the people of Israel:

    ”Go forth! Taketh thy Sandbergs, thy Dingwalls, thy Molloons, and all of those instruments of low frequency that do not possess four strings, and smash them into the earth. For the Lord Our God has declared that the Precision, and The Jazz, they are good, and they are the salt of the earth. And even those backers of Rick, yes even they are acceptable in the eyes of God. But not those of five or more strings.”

    And lo, they are cast out as unclean, smashed and destroyed.”
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    ”Go forth!”
    Is that what the voices tell you? "Go forth, Gruntfuttock, my child." ;)
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    ”Go forth!”
    Is that what the voices tell you? "Go forth, Gruntfuttock, my child." ;)
    Took me bloody ages to post that lot above, and that’s the best you can come up with? 

    My name is Angus Bottomfeeler and I’m most displeased.
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    My name is Angus.
    Aye. You'll have had your tea.
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    My name is Angus.
    Aye. You'll have had your tea.
    Just in case the OP is still reading this and not fallen asleep.. 

    Stick to 4 strings... not 5, or 6.. just the 4
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 8910
    @Bridgehouse @Funkfingers at the risk of sounding irreverent .... my bass is the way it is because that's the way I like it. So nerrrr!
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15480
    @Bridgehouse @Funkfingers at the risk of sounding irreverent .... my bass is the way it is because that's the way I like it. So nerrrr!
    Lol. Don't blame us - @ICBM started it...
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3250
    I blame Thatcher.
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3775
    I blame Thatcher.

    This comment does highlight the age profile of this forum!
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2706
    "Six strings good, four strings better" to misquote George Orwell
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 8910
    Rocker said:
    "Six strings good, four strings better" to misquote George Orwell
    four strings not enough, for reasons already stated :)
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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