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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2949
    Phil_aka_Pip said:
    for reasons already stated :)
    I wholly understand.

    5 strings ... means I can get on the 5th string from frets 5-9 the same notes that on a 4 string bass I would have to go to 4th string frets 0-4 for. So I save myself a position shift and lots of stretching over those long distance frets. Playing in the 5th (or at a pinch the 3rd) position suits me well enough.
    This is precisely my reason for preferring four strings. When bass lines can played almost entirely *in position*, to me, they lack shape. After a while, they all seem the same and I become bored. 

    You wouldn't like me when I'm bored. I end up exchanging silly posts with equally silly people. ;)
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    Hang on, those frets above the 5th are for playing on??
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  • ricorico Frets: 828
    I picked up a Squier Jazz for £100. End thread. Expect thread on topic of how to play this odd four stringed guitar. 
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    rico said:
    I picked up a Squier Jazz for £100. End thread. Expect thread on topic of how to play this odd four stringed guitar. 
    Result! Good man. Now, get that next thread started. You’ll need a “what strings, and round or flat?” then a “fingers or pick?” And finally a “slap:what is it good for:absolutely nothing” threads...
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2949
    rico said:
    thread on topic
    Three little words that rule out me and Bridgehouse. :-p
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    rico said:
    thread on topic
    Three little words that rule out me and Bridgehouse. :-p
    Oi! My reply was on topic (for a change!) 

    This is the Bass subforum therefore my default position is on topic. Elsewhere, I guarantee nothing..
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 2169
    Hang on, those frets above the 5th are for playing on??
    No; they're a ladder to the stars.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 31123
    And the Lord spake, saying, "Four shall be the number of the bass, and the number of the bass shall be four, no more, no less. Five shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, nor three excepting that thou then proceed to four. Six makes you look like a right prat."

    Although, while my bass does have four strings, I can't remember the last time I used the thin one...
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    ICBM said:
    And the Lord spake, saying, "Four shall be the number of the bass, and the number of the bass shall be four, no more, no less. Five shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, nor three excepting that thou then proceed to four. Six makes you look like a right prat."

    Although, while my bass does have four strings, I can't remember the last time I used the thin one...
    I use the thin one quite a bit. I even fed up to using frets above 12... 
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3497
    edited July 3
    ICBM said:
    And the Lord spake, saying, "Four shall be the number of the bass, and the number of the bass shall be four, no more, no less. Five shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, nor three excepting that thou then proceed to four. Six makes you look like a right prat."

    Although, while my bass does have four strings, I can't remember the last time I used the thin one...

    I very rarely use the thin one.  Could easily live without.  I have wondered about BEAD tuning to get the low B without having to go 5 string.  I've also wondered about DGCF tuning to be able to get that low D.
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2949
    crunchman said:
    I have wondered about BEAD tuning to get the low B without having to go 5 string.  I've also wondered about DGCF tuning to be able to get that low D.
    A notorious character on the Seymour Duncan User Group forum routinely tunes to C#-F#-B-E. I cannot remember whether he also has a Hipshot D-Tuner to drop the bottom string to get the occasional B.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    A drop tuner is a good call - the hipshot two stage one that does D & C (and can be adjusted for in-between values) is good..
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3497
    A drop tuner is a good call - the hipshot two stage one that does D & C (and can be adjusted for in-between values) is good..

    How easy is that to install?  It's that low D that would be useful to be able to get to.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    crunchman said:
    A drop tuner is a good call - the hipshot two stage one that does D & C (and can be adjusted for in-between values) is good..

    How easy is that to install?  It's that low D that would be useful to be able to get to.
    Very - you pick the right one depending on your tuner type and then there's no new holes at all - it's a base plate with a top piece. 

    It takes longer to set it up and get the set screws adjusted for the right tuning than it does to install the plate. Once set up it stays like it for quite a while. It needs minor tweaks now and again, and you do end up fiddling with the setscrew a bit when tuning but to be honest for the convenience of having two drops which you can actually do mid song it's definitely worth the extra few seconds tuning hassle.
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 8596
    why not just get a proper 5-string and have done with it?
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2949
    why not just get a proper 5-string and have done with it?
    Possibly because, on July 3rd, this happened ...
    rico said:
    I picked up a Squier Jazz for £100. End thread. 


    In my opinion, this demonstrates the need for introducing thread starter editing tools. Pose your question. Get your answer(s). Close the thread. Only modmins have the powers to override the closure.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2614
    The thin string! I thought it is for resting my ring finger and pinky on. Are you guys suggesting you can actually play it?
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 31123
    why not just get a proper 5-string and have done with it?
    See above :). Because proper basses only have four strings.

    I’ve thought about tuning BEAD as well, but that would involve learning new finger positions and would just confuse me - it’s hard enough to remember what I’m doing anyway, that’s why I play bass! Worse than that, it would involve *changing the strings*...
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • normula1normula1 Frets: 246
    I bought a Tanglewood Rebel 4k at least ten years ago for next to nothing as the shop was closing down. Granted I only play it occasionally, but I've never changed the strings despite having a spare for nearly as long as I've had the bass :)
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 3497
    ICBM said:
    why not just get a proper 5-string and have done with it?
    See above :). Because proper basses only have four strings.

    I’ve thought about tuning BEAD as well, but that would involve learning new finger positions and would just confuse me - it’s hard enough to remember what I’m doing anyway, that’s why I play bass! Worse than that, it would involve *changing the strings*...


    Worse still, it would most likely involve widening out the nut slots so it wouldn't be easily reversible.

    As for the 5 string question, I struggle reaching things on a 4 string with my short stubby fingers.  A wider neck would probably be even worse.

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 31123
    crunchman said:

    Worse still, it would most likely involve widening out the nut slots so it wouldn't be easily reversible.
    Yes, although if they're cut properly with a smooth rounded profile then they should take the original gauges as well. I've done that with a couple of baritone guitar conversions and not needed to replace the nut when going back to the normal strings.

    crunchman said:

    As for the 5 string question, I struggle reaching things on a 4 string with my short stubby fingers.  A wider neck would probably be even worse.
    Same here. Even a vintage P-Bass neck width is too big for my little hands.

    Basically it's more fundamental than that though... four strings tuned EADG is rock'n'roll and anything else isn't. And that's all there is to it.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 2169
    Rocker said:
    The thin string! I thought it is for resting my ring finger and pinky on. Are you guys suggesting you can actually play it?
    Yeah, it's just us avant garde types that actually use all four strings. Sounds like there could be a market for a three string bass (with drop D tuner natch).
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2949
    JezWynd said:
    it's just us avant garde types that actually use all four strings.
    Yowza! I'm avant garde.

    Shucks. I even go beyond the twelfth fret on a Rickenbacker 4001, using the neck pickup and some overdrive. It's the end of civilisation as we know it.


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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 31123
    Funkfingers said:

    I even go beyond the twelfth fret on a Rickenbacker 4001, using the neck pickup and some overdrive. It's the end of civilisation as we know it.
    Same, although more normally with fuzz and the bridge pickup. I have been known to play as high as the 15th fret... but only on the thick strings. I love that super-fat sound when you do that, it's completely different to playing the same note five or ten frets lower on the thinner strings.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2949
    Maybe, if we keep up this banter, Bridgehouse will capitulate and invest in his very own RIC? ;)
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    edited July 4
    Ric? No way. 

    At rehearsal last night, I not only played some 12-20 fret low note “boomers” but also played a 24 fret harmonic on at least 3 strings. 

    I dont need a ric for these shenanigans - I appear to be avocado guard already.
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 8596
    Rics are shite basses anyway. Every note is a dull thud with no midrange to define it. If you played one fret up or down it wouldn't matter so long as you played your dull thud at the same time as the kick drum.
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    Rics are shite basses anyway. Every note is a dull thud with no midrange to define it. If you played one fret up or down it wouldn't matter so long as you played your dull thud at the same time as the kick drum.
    Steady now, you’ll go upsetting our in house guru ;)
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2949
    edited July 4
    avocado guard.
    Sounds like something from a Seventies bathroom suite. :-P


    EDIT: Also sounds like something from the Word For Word round on "I'm Sorry. I Haven't A Clue." 
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13577
    avocado guard.
    Sounds like something from a Seventies bathroom suite. :-P
    Many say it sounds like I’m playing in a seventies bathroom much of the time...
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