Satchel's Tone Print pulled from TC Electronic site due to being sexist...

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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 3035
    These days, everyone paints themselves as a victim. 
    What are you a victim of? 

    Internet forums 
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13598
    joeyowen said:
    These days, everyone paints themselves as a victim. 
    What are you a victim of? 

    Internet forums 
    Ah yes, textual abuse.
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  • teradaterada Frets: 508
    Lady terada found it tasteless and unfunny, but didn’t care for banning it. 
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 4284
    Schnozz said:
    If you go to the lengths steel panther have gone to be funny, it's no longer funny and kind of tragic. The lead singer actually has plastic surgery - is that part of the parody? 

    Nah, they're shit.
    That's how I've always felt about them, although they do what they do very well.  They're crass, sexist and offensive as a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that they are crass, sexist and offensive.

    As for the pedal furore, I have mixed feelings.  I do feel there are far too many people looking to be offended nowadays.  But reading that TC Electronic blurb, it doesn't come across as parody, it just reads like genuinely misguided advertising copy... from 1987.
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 12914
    Philly_Q said:

    That's how I've always felt about them, although they do what they do very well.  They're crass, sexist and offensive as a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that they are crass, sexist and offensive.
    I'm not sure if it's possible to tell whether it is a jolly clever post modern joke , or if they're actually just crass, sexist and offensive, and the 80s hair band thing is just an attempt to justify it.
    Be your own evil twin. 
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 3415
    I'm not offended but it actually isn't funny in the least........playground humour
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  • VibetronicVibetronic Frets: 254
    Sporky said:
    Philly_Q said:

    That's how I've always felt about them, although they do what they do very well.  They're crass, sexist and offensive as a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that they are crass, sexist and offensive.
    I'm not sure if it's possible to tell whether it is a jolly clever post modern joke , or if they're actually just crass, sexist and offensive, and the 80s hair band thing is just an attempt to justify it.
    It was funny-ish for one album, bit difficult to stretch that sort of humour over the 4-5 they've done though...
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  • randellarandella Frets: 1760
    Sporky said:
    Philly_Q said:

    That's how I've always felt about them, although they do what they do very well.  They're crass, sexist and offensive as a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that they are crass, sexist and offensive.
    I'm not sure if it's possible to tell whether it is a jolly clever post modern joke , or if they're actually just crass, sexist and offensive, and the 80s hair band thing is just an attempt to justify it.
    It was funny-ish for one album, bit difficult to stretch that sort of humour over the 4-5 they've done though...
    All they do for me is remind me of just what a good film Spinal Tap was.

    David St. Hubbins: It's such a fine line between stupid, and uh...

    Nigel Tufnel: Clever.

    David St. Hubbins: Yeah, and clever.

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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 394
    Sporky said:
    Philly_Q said:

    That's how I've always felt about them, although they do what they do very well.  They're crass, sexist and offensive as a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that they are crass, sexist and offensive.
    I'm not sure if it's possible to tell whether it is a jolly clever post modern joke , or if they're actually just crass, sexist and offensive, and the 80s hair band thing is just an attempt to justify it.
    It was funny-ish for one album, bit difficult to stretch that sort of humour over the 4-5 they've done though...

    It's a good thing then that the musicianship makes up for it ;)

    Some amazing riffs on those albums.
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 1709
    Interesting, given as the TC debate has played itself out (if they have removed the offending comment they must at least see her point) is the nature of offense and offensiveness. 

    Two very intelligent people talking on a similar topic

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  • VibetronicVibetronic Frets: 254
    FarleyUK said:
    Sporky said:
    Philly_Q said:

    That's how I've always felt about them, although they do what they do very well.  They're crass, sexist and offensive as a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that they are crass, sexist and offensive.
    I'm not sure if it's possible to tell whether it is a jolly clever post modern joke , or if they're actually just crass, sexist and offensive, and the 80s hair band thing is just an attempt to justify it.
    It was funny-ish for one album, bit difficult to stretch that sort of humour over the 4-5 they've done though...

    It's a good thing then that the musicianship makes up for it ;)

    Some amazing riffs on those albums.
    Yeah, they are very good at what they do. And apparently nice chaps, one of my mates has met them several times after shows. 
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 394
    FarleyUK said:
    Sporky said:
    Philly_Q said:

    That's how I've always felt about them, although they do what they do very well.  They're crass, sexist and offensive as a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that they are crass, sexist and offensive.
    I'm not sure if it's possible to tell whether it is a jolly clever post modern joke , or if they're actually just crass, sexist and offensive, and the 80s hair band thing is just an attempt to justify it.
    It was funny-ish for one album, bit difficult to stretch that sort of humour over the 4-5 they've done though...

    It's a good thing then that the musicianship makes up for it ;)

    Some amazing riffs on those albums.
    Yeah, they are very good at what they do. And apparently nice chaps, one of my mates has met them several times after shows. 
    Same here - met them after a few shows, and really good guys. Nothing like their stage personas.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 694
    These days, everyone paints themselves as a victim. 
    What are you a victim of? 
    GAS.
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 7114
    edited July 12

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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 9049
    I always thought Stephen Fry just comes over as sanctimonious in that clip. But anyway... 

    I hope we all agree that *everyone* has the right to be offended by shit others say & do, and to call those people out for their twattish behaviour. People and companies also have *every right* to ignore that criticism and continue said twattish behaviour, and suffer whatever consequences arise. 

    FWIW the girl on twitter didn't mention offense - merely disappointment that a company like TC would think that write up (*not* the patch name itself) was a good idea.

    Frankly, it's just shitty copy, and quite a big misjudgement by a company who you'd think would know better in a global marketplace. Steel Panther are not really very famous and anyone who doesn't know who they are would have absolutely no clue whether that description is supposed to be tongue-in-cheek or otherwise. In any case it certainly ain't funny.

    I'm not remotely offended, it's just completely unnecessary. 
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  • ReverendReverend Frets: 1576
    Steel Panther having a career is like making 5 series of a sitcom based on one punchline. 
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 558
    He's a cunt and his band are worse than The Darkness, something I never thought was possible. TC's reaction was reasonable, but I'd rather they had responded by simply adjusting his toneprint so that it sent 240v straight into anyone who tried to use it.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13598
    He's a cunt and his band are worse than The Darkness, something I never thought was possible. TC's reaction was reasonable, but I'd rather they had responded by simply adjusting his toneprint so that it sent 240v straight into anyone who tried to use it.
    You are lesbianwithagun and ICM super low hanging strap.
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 558
    He's a cunt and his band are worse than The Darkness, something I never thought was possible. TC's reaction was reasonable, but I'd rather they had responded by simply adjusting his toneprint so that it sent 240v straight into anyone who tried to use it.
    You are lesbianwithagun and ICM super low hanging strap.
    No low hanging straps here dude, i wear my basses level with my tits.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13598
    He's a cunt and his band are worse than The Darkness, something I never thought was possible. TC's reaction was reasonable, but I'd rather they had responded by simply adjusting his toneprint so that it sent 240v straight into anyone who tried to use it.
    You are lesbianwithagun and ICM super low hanging strap.
    No low hanging straps here dude, i wear my basses level with my tits.
    You mean level with the drummer and sound man?
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 1709
    He's a cunt and his band are worse than The Darkness, something I never thought was possible. TC's reaction was reasonable, but I'd rather they had responded by simply adjusting his toneprint so that it sent 240v straight into anyone who tried to use it.
    You are lesbianwithagun and ICM super low hanging strap.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought lesbianwithagun was back!
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13598
    He's a cunt and his band are worse than The Darkness, something I never thought was possible. TC's reaction was reasonable, but I'd rather they had responded by simply adjusting his toneprint so that it sent 240v straight into anyone who tried to use it.
    You are lesbianwithagun and ICM super low hanging strap.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought lesbianwithagun was back!
    TBF lesbianwithagun would have posted a video as well...
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  • underdogunderdog Frets: 5416
    He's a cunt and his band are worse than The Darkness, something I never thought was possible. TC's reaction was reasonable, but I'd rather they had responded by simply adjusting his toneprint so that it sent 240v straight into anyone who tried to use it.
    You are lesbianwithagun and ICM super low hanging strap.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought lesbianwithagun was back!
    TBF lesbianwithagun would have posted a video as well...

    Don't, I've tried blanking those YouTube videos from my mind.
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 2958
    These days, everyone paints themselves as a victim. 
    What are you a victim of? 

    Here's a little story to bring a tear to your eye.
    I was shopping for a wetsuit to scuba dive
    But every suit I tried is too big around the thighs
    And the assistant suggested I try a ladies' size.

    I got hurt feelings, I got hurt feelings

    I fear the Geeks, even when they bear GIFs.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13598
    These days, everyone paints themselves as a victim. 
    What are you a victim of? 

    Here's a little story to bring a tear to your eye.
    I was shopping for a wetsuit to scuba dive
    But every suit I tried is too big around the thighs
    And the assistant suggested I try a ladies' size.

    I got hurt feelings, I got hurt feelings

    Funk fingers and girl hips
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 2812
    didn't look sexist to me..
    so I don't really get all the fuzz about it
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • LuttiSLuttiS Frets: 732
     

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