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  • martmart Frets: 2846
    mart said:
    Bridgehouse said:
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    You will not be disappointed with the 20. Not at all. No DI pedal will do what it does. Many on talkbass says it’s a more authentic vintage Ampeg sound than the 50 - and as such I reckon it’ll be a future classic.
    That’s what I’m hoping. Meanwhile I just need to think of excuses for the rest of the family. Let’s just hope they don’t  know how many bass amps I’ve got already. (I’m pretty sure I don’t know, so they oughtn’t to).
    Whoops, I forgot to follow up on this. The 20 arrived, without crackles. I plugged it into a nice 15” ampeg cab and ... no sound at all. Until I plugged a bass in ...

    ... and then ... hmm, rather underwhelming. So I tried a different bass and, on and off over the last few weeks, I have tried a number of different basses with mixed results but one clear conclusion:

    that mother really likes P basses!

    Even just a lowly squier, albeit with thomastik flats to get the Pino vibe, sounds incredible. Jamerson lines sound amazing even with my distinctly sub-Jamerson ability.
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  • well rodered the behringer preamp...lets give it a spin
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    well rodered the behringer preamp...lets give it a spin
    To be fair it’s not a lot of money down the drain if it ain’t all that :)
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  • SnagsSnags Frets: 552
    I received one yesterday (largely on request) as a birthday present.

    As soon as I get either new strings on the bass, or a new bass, so I can actually use it, if it doesn't turn me into some kind of epic bass god overnight I'll be holding you personally responsible, @Bridgehouse ;
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    Snags said:
    I received one yesterday (largely on request) as a birthday present.

    As soon as I get either new strings on the bass, or a new bass, so I can actually use it, if it doesn't turn me into some kind of epic bass god overnight I'll be holding you personally responsible, @Bridgehouse ;
    One what? ;)
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  • SnagsSnags Frets: 552
    Behringer box of cheap goodness
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    Snags said:
    Behringer box of cheap goodness
    Ah in that case you’ll be a bass god :)
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  • Snags said:
    I received one yesterday (largely on request) as a birthday present.

    As soon as I get either new strings on the bass, or a new bass, so I can actually use it, if it doesn't turn me into some kind of epic bass god overnight I'll be holding you personally responsible, @Bridgehouse ;
    Well mine arrived..but our singer, who was bringing his bass this week left his handbrake off and rolled his car over a wall so had to miss practice, neither me or the other guitarist bothered to bring a bass so it stayed in its box*. I blame @Bridgehouse and Ed's leaseplan company will be in touch about the damage to his car. :)

    *It is a very nice box mind you.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33342
    PolarityMan said:

    ..but our singer, who was bringing his bass this week left his handbrake off and rolled his car over a wall
    Well that was stupid. You should always leave a car in gear when parked, exactly to stop it rolling away if the handbrake fails (or isn't put on properly)... my driving instructor - who admittedly was very old school - drummed that into me and I've never forgotten it. But it seems to not be taught nowadays.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    Snags said:
    I received one yesterday (largely on request) as a birthday present.

    As soon as I get either new strings on the bass, or a new bass, so I can actually use it, if it doesn't turn me into some kind of epic bass god overnight I'll be holding you personally responsible, @Bridgehouse ;
    Well mine arrived..but our singer, who was bringing his bass this week left his handbrake off and rolled his car over a wall so had to miss practice, neither me or the other guitarist bothered to bring a bass so it stayed in its box*. I blame @Bridgehouse and Ed's leaseplan company will be in touch about the damage to his car. :)

    *It is a very nice box mind you.
    I shall file the contact from the company in the appropriate receptacle ;)
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  • ICBM said:
    PolarityMan said:

    ..but our singer, who was bringing his bass this week left his handbrake off and rolled his car over a wall
    Well that was stupid. 
    I don't think he's going to count it as amongst his personal achievements :)
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4285
    So tried out the Behringer BD and its pretty decent. We used it as a distortion pedal in front of an amp which was then also DI'd into our IEMs and it was getting a nice bit of grit on there.

    Certainly beats the repurposing of verious guitar pedals that weve been trying so far.
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 7118
    Most guitar pedals cut too much low end for bass, and the bass knobs are voiced in a different place for putting it back
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4285
    Most guitar pedals cut too much low end for bass, and the bass knobs are voiced in a different place for putting it back
    Oddly enough the pedals you would expect to be ok on bass were the most shite. Precision drive and big muff both terrible for instance.
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 7118
    A tubescreamer or SD1 can be ok for mild grit if you add the bass back in at the amp
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 7118
    I think the Boss MD2 is ok too if I’m remembering correctly 
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 689
    Most guitar pedals cut too much low end for bass, and the bass knobs are voiced in a different place for putting it back
    Oddly enough the pedals you would expect to be ok on bass were the most shite. Precision drive and big muff both terrible for instance.
    Which muff?
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4285
    Big muff pi (white larger one)
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 689
    Big muff pi (white larger one)
    Yeah, that one is no good on bass. You need a Russian reissue or a bass big muff. Allegedly the new triangle reissue is also half decent but haven't tried one.
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 7118
    The Zvex Mastotron can sound cool on bass.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    So tried out the Behringer BD and its pretty decent. We used it as a distortion pedal in front of an amp which was then also DI'd into our IEMs and it was getting a nice bit of grit on there.

    Certainly beats the repurposing of verious guitar pedals that weve been trying so far.
    Good to hear it worked. Very different from their guitar and acoustic offerings...
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4285
    At £18 Id even go so far as suggesting that its a no-brainer.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    At £18 Id even go so far as suggesting that its a no-brainer.
    Yep. Pretty much my thoughts on it too
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  • horsehorse Frets: 583
    At £18 Id even go so far as suggesting that its a no-brainer.
    Yep. Pretty much my thoughts on it too
    £17 now - worth having as a backup at these prices, so gone for one too
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  • PolarityManPolarityMan Frets: 4285
    horse said:
    At £18 Id even go so far as suggesting that its a no-brainer.
    Yep. Pretty much my thoughts on it too
    £17 now - worth having as a backup at these prices, so gone for one too
    God dammit Ive been ripped off!
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  • horsehorse Frets: 583
    horse said:
    At £18 Id even go so far as suggesting that its a no-brainer.
    Yep. Pretty much my thoughts on it too
    £17 now - worth having as a backup at these prices, so gone for one too
    God dammit Ive been ripped off!
     I'm willing to split the difference - pm me
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  • martmart Frets: 2846
    Another update from me as I had the chance to try both the Ampeg PF20 and the Behringer preamp pedal in a live setting this weekend.

    As usual, I played a fretless Warwick thumb. Normally I put that through a Warwick 300W solid state amp into a 15” cab, and it sounds good, if a little modern/hi-fi.

    First I put the Behringer in front of the amp, and with one of the sample settings on it, it straight away gave a lovely warmth that complemented the set up perfectly. A very nice sound indeed!

    Next I replaced the Warwick head with the Ampeg. 300W of solid state against 20W of tube - the Ampeg shouldn’t have had a chance. But the volume was fine to act as a monitor, competing with a moderately enthusiastic drummer. No, it probably wouldn’t fill the room without PA, but it was far louder than I expected. In fact I had the volume just under half way, exactly where I normally have the Warwick’s volume control.

    So the volume was a surprise, and so was the sound. Good, warm but not as warm as the Behringer, and with a bit more grit. Not distortion exactly (which I have no use for in my bass sound), but just a bit of edge. Both fit my taste more than my usual set-up, albeit in slightly different ways. 

    Thanks to @Bridgehouse for the encouragement which led me to acquiring two very nice and useful bits of kit.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    mart said:
    Another update from me as I had the chance to try both the Ampeg PF20 and the Behringer preamp pedal in a live setting this weekend.

    As usual, I played a fretless Warwick thumb. Normally I put that through a Warwick 300W solid state amp into a 15” cab, and it sounds good, if a little modern/hi-fi.

    First I put the Behringer in front of the amp, and with one of the sample settings on it, it straight away gave a lovely warmth that complemented the set up perfectly. A very nice sound indeed!

    Next I replaced the Warwick head with the Ampeg. 300W of solid state against 20W of tube - the Ampeg shouldn’t have had a chance. But the volume was fine to act as a monitor, competing with a moderately enthusiastic drummer. No, it probably wouldn’t fill the room without PA, but it was far louder than I expected. In fact I had the volume just under half way, exactly where I normally have the Warwick’s volume control.

    So the volume was a surprise, and so was the sound. Good, warm but not as warm as the Behringer, and with a bit more grit. Not distortion exactly (which I have no use for in my bass sound), but just a bit of edge. Both fit my taste more than my usual set-up, albeit in slightly different ways. 

    Thanks to @Bridgehouse for the encouragement which led me to acquiring two very nice and useful bits of kit.
    Sounds excellent! A good result all round!
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  • steamabacussteamabacus Frets: 923
    edited October 17
    I've been prevaricating for ages over which cheap bass di to get. I was drawn to the simplicity of the Dr. J (£60) but the cheapness of the Behringer (£18.99 delivered) won the day!

    It arrived this morning and I've just plugged it in to put it through its paces - it's excellent. I've no real quibbles with the quality (we'll see how long it lasts but I won't be gigging it) and the sound DI'd direct into the desk is more than adequate for me. The drive and blend controls make it easy to dial in a gnarley driven sound with definition.

    I've recorded my initial experiments with it and shall enter it into the Bass Riff of the Month if you want to hear it.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    I should be on commission with Behringer! ;)
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