Custom Shop Strat - or is it

guitars4you

Jonathangus said:

gringopig said:

The advert title is totally misrepresenting. Remove the 'custom shop' part and it would be more honest. It's also very over-priced.

Even if you take the Custom Shop bit out, you still can't call it a Fender, as it (presumably) wasn't assembled by Fender.

always a bone of contention and a big grey area - If it is all made from genuine Fender parts, then is it not a Fender  ????

In that case what is 'Blackie' (made up from 6 guitars) - Granted 'blackie' is not original, but is it now no longer a Fender ?

So what happens if I take a neck of to adjust the truss rod

IMO if you have a host of genuine Fender parts and assemble them as a 'bits o caster' then as long as you are truthful about what you have and describe it as a 'Fender bits so caster' then I'm not so sure there is any issue - After all, if you break it down and sell each part separately then you can legally call it a Fender neck and equally a Fender body etc etc

However I do agree in this instance it is 100% a bits o caster - I have an issue calling this one a Fender Custom Shop Strat - But I would not have an issue calling it a 'Fender Bits so caster'

SteveRobinson

guitars4you said:

@MattFGBI ;;;; - what does the serial number R57507 show as on your system

R67507 (on the cert) is 1962 Stratocaster heavy relic Oly White over Dakota so the body checks out
https://www.fender.com/product-registration/

HarrySeven

https://www.guitargaragelondon.com/testimonials

Apparently, the seller is a "Guitar Scientist"...

"Someone on this page referred to Dan as a guitar scientist, and I’d have to agree".

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SteveRobinson said:

guitars4you said:

@MattFGBI ;; - what does the serial number R57507 show as on your system

R67505 (on the cert) is 1962 Stratocaster heavy relic
https://www.fender.com/product-registration/

even better story now isn't it Steve !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SteveRobinson

guitars4you said:

SteveRobinson said:

guitars4you said:

@MattFGBI ;; - what does the serial number R57507 show as on your system

R67505 (on the cert) is 1962 Stratocaster heavy relic
https://www.fender.com/product-registration/

even better story now isn't it Steve !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry that's my typo, it's R67507 cert and neck plate

ICBM

guitars4you said:

I think they were shipping the 40th anniv banner headstocks on 1993 models to be fair - regular thing for Fender to cross over such events

I think it’s actually that the serial number decals were printed in bulk and not always used up within the year, but ran on into the next one.

I had one of these with the flag pin, and from memory the serial number was also N3 but the date stamp on the heel was definitely 1994.

Jonathangus

guitars4you said:

Jonathangus said:

gringopig said:

The advert title is totally misrepresenting. Remove the 'custom shop' part and it would be more honest. It's also very over-priced.

Even if you take the Custom Shop bit out, you still can't call it a Fender, as it (presumably) wasn't assembled by Fender.

always a bone of contention and a big grey area - If it is all made from genuine Fender parts, then is it not a Fender  ????

In that case what is 'Blackie' (made up from 6 guitars) - Granted 'blackie' is not original, but is it now no longer a Fender ?

So what happens if I take a neck of to adjust the truss rod

IMO if you have a host of genuine Fender parts and assemble them as a 'bits o caster' then as long as you are truthful about what you have and describe it as a 'Fender bits so caster' then I'm not so sure there is any issue - After all, if you break it down and sell each part separately then you can legally call it a Fender neck and equally a Fender body etc etc

However I do agree in this instance it is 100% a bits o caster - I have an issue calling this one a Fender Custom Shop Strat - But I would not have an issue calling it a 'Fender Bits so caster'

AFAIK, that's the official legal standpoint.  But I agree, it can get a bit silly.  Especially as Leo's original idea was to be able to swap a neck out if it got warped or broken.

CasperCaster

Guitar garage?

I've previously flagged some of their listings on eBay for dishonest representation/passing off/ fraud etc. I wouldn't go anywhere near them!

lovestrat74

They seem to win a lot of stuff on ebay - mainly MIJ - and list it again within a couple of days at double the price.  I contacted them once about a Tele they had and asked it they were insterested in my MIJ strat as a part deal, but they said it was not what they were looking for even though Fender MIJ was the mainstay of their business at the time 

StuartMac290

That's just so shit, whatever it is .

bgmartinsbridge

That body was for sale a couple of months back - saw it on ebay or reverb.

guitars4you

bgmartinsbridge said:

That body was for sale a couple of months back - saw it on ebay or reverb.

distinguishable isn't it - you'd remember - I've not seen such a 'worn' relic before from Fender like this on a C/Shop model - excluding the RG Strat - maybe on a Masterbuilt - Not saying the finish is not original but suspect it has had more 'wear' applied to it 

guitars4you

SteveRobinson said:

guitars4you said:

SteveRobinson said:

guitars4you said:

@MattFGBI ;; - what does the serial number R57507 show as on your system

R67505 (on the cert) is 1962 Stratocaster heavy relic
https://www.fender.com/product-registration/

even better story now isn't it Steve !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry that's my typo, it's R67507 cert and neck plate

my error Steve - I thought it said 57507 - I was on a small screen at the time - but yes 67507

Strat54

Seems like Guitar Garage are one of the UK's many persistent offenders of FMIC's copyrighted names. Relic....Heavy Relic.....Roadworn and all the usual Strats and Tele's etc cannot be used here in the UK without permission. 

https://www.guitargaragelondon.com/custom

Won't be long before the legal dept coming knocking methinks.

Musicman20

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/197c73_b104cb333c764f1a9c82af485dd3981d~mv2_d_1246_3500_s_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_266,h_748,al_c,q_90,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/197c73_b104cb333c764f1a9c82af485dd3981d~mv2_d_1246_3500_s_2.webp

What?!

thermionic

guitars4you said:

impmann said:

guitars4you said:

MikeS said:

It's a 1993 neck as well, not a 94 anniversary, and you can see the holes/marks from the previous tuners. So much waffle, so much BS badly representing an extremely overpriced partscaster. A seller I'll avoid.

I think they were shipping the 40th anniv banner headstocks on 1993 models to be fair - regular thing for Fender to cross over such events

We got our 40th Anniv badged ones in 1994 when I worked for a Fender dealer.

Nice necks IMHO but that guitar is a load of...

Later 1993 models were shipped with the banner headstock logo ready in time for 1994

You can see the pinholes for the 40 logo on the original listing. I guess leaving it on would be too much of a giveaway!

boogieman

thermionic said:

Also, what the hell is “deep body cleansing”?

Presumably a wipe over with a cloth and a squirt of Mr Sheen. 

JerkMoans

thermionic said:

Also, what the hell is “deep body cleansing”?

Colonic irrigation

WindmillGuitars

They're forever "chopping" guitars - mixing necks and bodies to resell 

WindmillGuitars

bgmartinsbridge said:

That body was for sale a couple of months back - saw it on ebay or reverb.

Body was listed on it's own on 6th August  .. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Customshop-Relic-Body-/273392746468?hash=item3fa77a3fe4:g:7q4AAOSwofdbaInz&nma=true&si=YgKcQ%2BYIhHECuFTTrbw0b9ouUIc%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557