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  • adampeteradampeter Frets: 240
    adampeter said:
    When you say small amp, is it for home use only? Or do you think you might gig with it in the future?


    at home for now
    A small combo will do just fine - if you want something to expand later and get best quality then Barefaced Midget and a separate head like a markbass LM3 or a GK MB500.. 

    But for Combos then the Fender Rumble combos are excellent - and I like the EBS session 60

    For higher quality then the small Markbass combos are brilliant and the Phil jones bass range is worth a look for size. 

    Mostly, it depends on budget, like most things...
    thanks for the info mate, 
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  • I use my Zoom b3n either into headphones, or a powered wedge at home. If I'm recording I got straight from the zoom to Audio interface and use monitors. 

    In other words, you don't really *need* a dedicated bass amp for home use 

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  • adampeteradampeter Frets: 240
    I use my Zoom b3n either into headphones, or a powered wedge at home. If I'm recording I got straight from the zoom to Audio interface and use monitors. 

    In other words, you don't really *need* a dedicated bass amp for home use 
    Will it damage a valve guitar combo?
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    I use my Zoom b3n either into headphones, or a powered wedge at home. If I'm recording I got straight from the zoom to Audio interface and use monitors. 

    In other words, you don't really *need* a dedicated bass amp for home use 
    That’s true - I use a Preamp into an Frfr cab - however, there is something about the sound of a dedicated bass amp for practise...
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    adampeter said:
    I use my Zoom b3n either into headphones, or a powered wedge at home. If I'm recording I got straight from the zoom to Audio interface and use monitors. 

    In other words, you don't really *need* a dedicated bass amp for home use 
    Will it damage a valve guitar combo?
    @ICBM normally has an opinion on that ;)
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33342
    adampeter said:

    Will it damage a valve guitar combo?
    @ICBM normally has an opinion on that ;)
    It's not ideal, but at low home volume into the amp set completely clean it will be fine - the risk is really to the speaker, so as long as you make sure you can hear that distortion isn't occurring (and thus know that it's not pushing the amp too close to full power, which could then overload the speaker) it's not problem. It might not sound very good though.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33342
    DLM said:

    @ICBM I'll add it to the growing list of musician autobiogs I want to read. :)

    I'm not a Duran fan, but I was utterly riveted by this:

    http://thedoublestop.com/ep-104-ian-little-producer-duran-duran/

    and part 2, also!

    I think you'd love it, too. :sunglasses:

    I tried... dear god, he's a dull interviewee. I had to give up after about 10 mins :(.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • DLMDLM Frets: 1833
    @ICBM :( Shame, man. I was transfixed. But I've got really used to these long-form podcasts.
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  • pintspillerpintspiller Frets: 565
    edited September 24
    It took me 20 years to move from pick to fingers. It's a bit sloppy but groovy. Some things are easier to play, some are harder.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33342
    It took me 20 years to move from pick to fingers. It's a bit sloppy but groovy. Some things are easier to play, some are harder.
    It took me 20 years to do the opposite...

    I now do both, depending on what I want to play - it doesn't have to be one or the other.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • I use both too. Pick is good for speedy stuff that requires some accuracy. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33342
    I use both too. Pick is good for speedy stuff that requires flailing away at the strings through a fuzz pedal.
    FTFY :)
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    ICBM said:
    I use both too. Pick is good for bringing out that “clank” sound on your bass cos it ain’t capable of any other sounds...
    FTFY :)
    Also ftfy ;)
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2788
    @LuttiS the injured guy who walked into the bar across the street would need to visit SpecSavers
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2788
    @Bridgehouse what does a Bass Preamp DI Pedal give the player? I use my bass straight into my Markbass combo and I don’t feel that I am missing something. Thanks 
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • LuttiSLuttiS Frets: 1045
    Rocker said:
    @LuttiS the injured guy who walked into the bar across the street would need to visit SpecSavers
    Haha possibly yeah.. if i recall he did walk off a wall he didn't notice to get said injury.. 
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    Rocker said:
    @Bridgehouse what does a Bass Preamp DI Pedal give the player? I use my bass straight into my Markbass combo and I don’t feel that I am missing something. Thanks 
    Depending on the Preamp, I use different ones to do different things.

    If going into an amp, then:

    - more complex eq at different frequencies to shape tone, sometimes including a ‘q’ type mids sweep
    - ability to control input gain and output level
    - ability to run a DI straight to desk either for emergency or avoiding DI from an amp that doesn’t have it
    - sometimes for an all in one solution that includes any from: compression, drive, limiter, notch filter, noise gate

    If using standalone:

    - ability to use gain, eq, compression, amp modelling, and can simulation direct to FOH without having to use an amp - for me this means a small portable package for certain gigs without having to take an amp.

    Its very much horses for courses. Some have one in the gig bag or case to use if the amp stops working (emergency backup).

    Some use them for some gigs where taking a big amp would be impractical or not possible

    Some use them for an alternate EQ setting (amp for one, and then DI on/off for another)

    I have one with a valve Preamp which means I can get a nice valve driven tone into the front of a solid state class D amp to give the sound some more character where it needs it.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33342
    Rocker said:
    @Bridgehouse what does a Bass Preamp DI Pedal give the player? I use my bass straight into my Markbass combo and I don’t feel that I am missing something.
    You’re not, if you’re going into the amp and you’re happy with the sound - it’s more for going into a PA *without* an amp. The preamp effectively replaces the one in the amp. If you DI the amp, the DI output will be after the amp’s preamp (sometimes selectable for pre- or post-EQ), so it’s doing the same job.

    Having a separate preamp also means you can bypass annoying sound engineers who want you to DI from before the stage amp too - you set the amp flat and use your preamp pedal for your tone :).
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    ICBM said:
    Rocker said:
    @Bridgehouse what does a Bass Preamp DI Pedal give the player? I use my bass straight into my Markbass combo and I don’t feel that I am missing something.
    You’re not, if you’re going into the amp and you’re happy with the sound - it’s more for going into a PA *without* an amp. The preamp effectively replaces the one in the amp. If you DI the amp, the DI output will be after the amp’s preamp (sometimes selectable for pre- or post-EQ), so it’s doing the same job.

    Having a separate preamp also means you can bypass annoying sound engineers who want you to DI from before the stage amp too - you set the amp flat and use your preamp pedal for your tone :).
    I can’t remember the last time I used an amp for FOH sound - only for monitoring....
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 33342
    Bridgehouse said:

    I can’t remember the last time I used an amp for FOH sound - only for monitoring....
    You must not play any crappy small gigs with a PA that can't handle proper bass then :).
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15892
    ICBM said:
    Bridgehouse said:

    I can’t remember the last time I used an amp for FOH sound - only for monitoring....
    You must not play any crappy small gigs with a PA that can't handle proper bass then :).
    Most of my gigs are at “top class” venues. 

    Ahem.
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