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  • Stu_tate said:
    Give me the HX Effects in the Stomp size then I can finally retire my M5. 
    HX Stomp can dedicate its DSP to nothing but effects (in fact, the first 20 or so presets are effects only), and it's smaller than a M5.
    Chief Product Design Architect, Yamaha Guitar Group / Line 6
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  • sgosden said:
    anyone seen anything about ground lift on the output? or is it still going to suffer from phatom power?
    No ground lift switch, but no issue with phantom power.
    Chief Product Design Architect, Yamaha Guitar Group / Line 6
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  • mudslide73mudslide73 Frets: 1681
    Stu_tate said:
    Give me the HX Effects in the Stomp size then I can finally retire my M5. 
    HX Stomp can dedicate its DSP to nothing but effects (in fact, the first 20 or so presets are effects only), and it's smaller than a M5.
    Very attractive to me. It'll allow me to be neurotic and keep my mainstays but indulge my love of VMWare type stuff on the board. 
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  • CabicularCabicular Frets: 2193
    Stu_tate said:
    Give me the HX Effects in the Stomp size then I can finally retire my M5. 
    HX Stomp can dedicate its DSP to nothing but effects (in fact, the first 20 or so presets are effects only), and it's smaller than a M5.
    Hi Eric!
    Have you ever considered putting a couple of these together, adding some I/O, a midi floor controller and an integrated expression pedal
    I bet that would sell like hot cakes ..
    ;)
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  • TenebrousTenebrous Frets: 83
    Ahh that looks like an absolutely stellar piece of kit, but all it does is make my gear choice going forward that much more difficult... God damnit.
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  • dangriffithsdangriffiths Frets: 232
    Excuse my ignorance/laziness but is there a way of using this to jam along with stuff on laptop on headphones? Thinking for work lunchtimes
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 11910
    Excuse my ignorance/laziness but is there a way of using this to jam along with stuff on laptop on headphones? Thinking for work lunchtimes
    Yes, because it works as an audio interface.
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • longilongi Frets: 62
    Stu_tate said:
    Give me the HX Effects in the Stomp size then I can finally retire my M5. 


    They look to be of a similiar same size in that pedal playground, the HX being wider where as the M5 is deeper.
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  • markblagdonmarkblagdon Frets: 741
    Excuse my ignorance/laziness but is there a way of using this to jam along with stuff on laptop on headphones? Thinking for work lunchtimes
    Yes, because it works as an audio interface.
    Does it work as an audio interface for IOS devices? That would be cool.
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  • CabicularCabicular Frets: 2193
    edited October 6
    Excuse my ignorance/laziness but is there a way of using this to jam along with stuff on laptop on headphones? Thinking for work lunchtimes
    Yes, because it works as an audio interface.
    Does it work as an audio interface for IOS devices? That would be cool.
    I don’t see why not
    the Helix does (with a camera kit)
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  • dangriffithsdangriffiths Frets: 232
    Excuse my ignorance/laziness but is there a way of using this to jam along with stuff on laptop on headphones? Thinking for work lunchtimes
    Yes, because it works as an audio interface.
    Thank you - decision made then!
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  • ricky50ricky50 Frets: 9
    edited October 6

    For those not sure where the HX Effects and the Stomp sit I’d say get both. For me it opens up a whole range of possible options. At the moment my entire pedalboard is an HX Effects into an Effectrode Blackbird and then into the front of my tube amp and it sounds incredible. It’s really compact and I’d convinced myself I didn’t need anything else. With the arrival of this amazing bit of kit I’m pretty sure I can go into a Stomp preamp block and tweak it to achieve the same thing so the Blackbird could go. I can use the HX effects in front of the Stomp to go to FOH through a split path with an amp and cab and still go into the front of my amp where I like to be. I can store a whole load of IRs and change them using MIDI with the HX effects as the MIDI controller.  I can program a few presets so the Stomp can act as a backup if the HX effects goes down (mine has frozen numerous times). I can use the Stomp as a stand-alone effects unit and DI for acoustic gigs. I can put the HX Effects through the Stomp and use headphones for practice. I’ve got a few extra blocks if I need them - when the new pitch effects arrive that’s going to be very useful.  I can probably do much more when I get my hands on one and can see what it can do. Yes I could probably achieve all of that for a similar price with a Helix lite but it would be bigger and more cumbersome, wouldn’t give me a backup if it went down, would be overkill for acoustic gigs, wouldn’t have scribble strips, couldn’t detach anything like the Stomp bit to take on a plane or a holiday etc etc. It just wouldn’t have the same versatility.  All this choice is phenomenal.  It’s a no brainer. 

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  • TimmyOTimmyO Frets: 2931
    TimmyO said:
    I'd it had an XLR in it would kill the  acoustic singer-player pedal market! (Comp, para eqs, vocal reverb etc) 
    No reason you can’t use an XLR-TRS
    input isn't TRS 
    "Congratulations on being officially the most right anyone has ever been about anything, ever." -- Noisepolluter knows the score
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  • TimmyOTimmyO Frets: 2931
    Stu_tate said:
    Give me the HX Effects in the Stomp size then I can finally retire my M5. 
    HX Stomp can dedicate its DSP to nothing but effects (in fact, the first 20 or so presets are effects only), and it's smaller than a M5.
    ...but limited to 6 blocks, however low DSP fx you intended to use... ;-) 

    I did ask about that on the FB group - is there a specific reason for that limitation? 
    "Congratulations on being officially the most right anyone has ever been about anything, ever." -- Noisepolluter knows the score
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 11910
    ricky50 said:

    For those not sure where the HX Effects and the Stomp sit I’d say get both.

    Except...the HX Effects and Stomp together are £120 more than a Helix LT, which would actually give you the functionality of both and way more besides; the only places it falls down are the number of switchable loops and footprint (but the added functionality negates those to a certain degree).
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • TimmyO said:
    TimmyO said:
    I'd it had an XLR in it would kill the  acoustic singer-player pedal market! (Comp, para eqs, vocal reverb etc) 
    No reason you can’t use an XLR-TRS
    input isn't TRS 
    Isn’t the loop switchable between instrument and line though? The inputs only advantage is changeable impedance for guitar stuff?
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  • TimmyO said:
    Stu_tate said:
    Give me the HX Effects in the Stomp size then I can finally retire my M5. 
    HX Stomp can dedicate its DSP to nothing but effects (in fact, the first 20 or so presets are effects only), and it's smaller than a M5.
    ...but limited to 6 blocks, however low DSP fx you intended to use... ;-) 

    I did ask about that on the FB group - is there a specific reason for that limitation? 
    Even though it has one of the same DSP chips I’m assuming the other chips, bits and bobs on the motherboard that help the DSP run quickly had to be ditched due to lack of space 
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  • BodBod Frets: 225
    rossyamaha said: 
    ... and have a sit down wee. 
    Good man!!!
    I sometimes treat myself to a sit down poo.
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  • siremoonsiremoon Frets: 557
    TimmyO said:
    Stu_tate said:
    Give me the HX Effects in the Stomp size then I can finally retire my M5. 
    HX Stomp can dedicate its DSP to nothing but effects (in fact, the first 20 or so presets are effects only), and it's smaller than a M5.
    ...but limited to 6 blocks, however low DSP fx you intended to use... ;-) 

    I did ask about that on the FB group - is there a specific reason for that limitation? 
    All the Helix range has an upper limit on the maximum number of blocks so that's not unique to this new product.
     
    There is a lengthy interview with Mr.Igloo in this video:


    In that interview he says that one of the prime reasons for the limitation of 6 blocks is UI usability/clarity.  He also says that the (presumed to be in the works) pitch shifting effects and possibly some future amp models are likely be more DSP intensive and so they wanted to leave some DSP headroom for these and not paint themselves into a corner.

    “He is like a man with a fork in a world of soup.” - Noel Gallagher
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  • So.. after you've used one for amp, and one for cab, you are essentially left with 4.... and given the power of the eq blocks with digital stuff .. it could be 3 only .. 
    My trading feedback

    is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?

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  • timmysofttimmysoft Frets: 1703
    It looks great! I was kind of hoping we’d see a smaller helix control too, a 6 button version would be perfect! 
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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 542
    So.. after you've used one for amp, and one for cab, you are essentially left with 4.... and given the power of the eq blocks with digital stuff .. it could be 3 only .. 
    I might be wrong but I think the amps/cabs are in one block...actually I think I am wrong ...
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  • timmysofttimmysoft Frets: 1703
    So.. after you've used one for amp, and one for cab, you are essentially left with 4.... and given the power of the eq blocks with digital stuff .. it could be 3 only .. 
    I might be wrong but I think the amps/cabs are in one block...actually I think I am wrong ...
    They can be in one block, but it’s a locked cab choice with a particular amp 
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  • UnclePsychosisUnclePsychosis Frets: 5190
    edited October 8
    So.. after you've used one for amp, and one for cab, you are essentially left with 4.... and given the power of the eq blocks with digital stuff .. it could be 3 only .. 
    I might be wrong but I think the amps/cabs are in one block...actually I think I am wrong ...
    There are some blocks that are amp+cab in single block. The cabs aren't fixed either, you can change them 

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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 542
    timmysoft said:
    So.. after you've used one for amp, and one for cab, you are essentially left with 4.... and given the power of the eq blocks with digital stuff .. it could be 3 only .. 
    I might be wrong but I think the amps/cabs are in one block...actually I think I am wrong ...
    They can be in one block, but it’s a locked cab choice with a particular amp 
    That's probably fine for me eg AC30 I assume? 
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  • timmysofttimmysoft Frets: 1703
    timmysoft said:
    So.. after you've used one for amp, and one for cab, you are essentially left with 4.... and given the power of the eq blocks with digital stuff .. it could be 3 only .. 
    I might be wrong but I think the amps/cabs are in one block...actually I think I am wrong ...
    They can be in one block, but it’s a locked cab choice with a particular amp 
    That's probably fine for me eg AC30 I assume? 
    There’s a selection! The Helix JTM45 is particularly good
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  • Musicman20Musicman20 Frets: 542
    I like a lot of my own effects anyway so I'll hook them up somehow. 6 blocks is fine for my needs, and more so with bass. 
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  • FishguyFishguy Frets: 8
    I can imagine an awful lot of these hx stomps selling.
    I never considered a helix to be a viable option but it could be a great entry point into the system and may be easier to get a handle on than the bigger units.

    Wondering how much a decent pair of monitor speakers would cost
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  • Fishguy said:
    I can imagine an awful lot of these hx stomps selling.
    I never considered a helix to be a viable option but it could be a great entry point into the system and may be easier to get a handle on than the bigger units.

    Wondering how much a decent pair of monitor speakers would cost
    I think that mirrors my own thoughts. Now it there was a nice vertical frfr option that looked like an angled vertical 2*12 so you could have the traditional vibe and trouser flapping.
    My trading feedback

    is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?

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  • FishguyFishguy Frets: 8
    Fishguy said:
    I can imagine an awful lot of these hx stomps selling.
    I never considered a helix to be a viable option but it could be a great entry point into the system and may be easier to get a handle on than the bigger units.

    Wondering how much a decent pair of monitor speakers would cost
    I think that mirrors my own thoughts. Now it there was a nice vertical frfr option that looked like an angled vertical 2*12 so you could have the traditional vibe and trouser flapping.
    I might just just make do with headphones or try plugging it into a Yamaha thr10 for home practice. If i play anything trouser flapping at home, there's going to be lots of angry people!
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