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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 781
    I will. It's just too much fun to let pain spoil it  :s
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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 781
    Second BJJ class back after Christmas this morning. For some reason we had an 8.30am class which was a bit of a shock to the system.

    Felt fully fit for the first time in a few weeks, focussed on movement rather than positions and it mostly went well.

    Tapped a +115kg monster with a firmly placed armbar. Rolled with a couple really good blue belts and my black belt instructor. Five 5 minutes rounds. Did ok. 

    Also rolled with a newby white belt who's been at it for a month or so. Always interesting to remind yourself how far you've come when rolling with a new guy. 

    Absolutely shagged this afternoon. Glass of wine much needed with dinner. 
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  • Good work. 
    I LOVE morning classes, my usual session is 0645-0830ish. I get a shower at work & feel great (if a bit tired) for the rest of the day. 
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 1198
    Well done guys. My first of the new year is tomorrow afternoon, I’m not feeling 100% yet due to recovering from flu but I’m looking forward to it all the same. 
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 1198
    Well that sucked. 
    My  cardio needs working on and it seems I’ve lost the ability to pass or retain guard. Spent most of the night defending bow and arrow chokes. 
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  • snakemanStoosnakemanStoo Frets: 1537
    First ones back after a break are always horrible.

    I'm feeling sore from my first class yesterday.  And looking forward to my next class tomorrow.
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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 781
    grungebob said:
    Well that sucked. 
    My  cardio needs working on and it seems I’ve lost the ability to pass or retain guard. Spent most of the night defending bow and arrow chokes. 
    My guard absolutely sucks and bow and arrow chokes get me far too often! 

    Play the long game! 
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  • I'm back in training properly again now. With one big change in addition to my usual BJJ. 
    As I mentioned in the "cracked ribs" thread I've started Judo! 
    I'm only a couple of classes in but it seems good. Bloody hard work though! 

    I've only done O-Goshi & ukemi thus far, plus a bit of gentle randori. 

    Only downsides-
    My hands were sore after the first class, but I'm told that'll improve. 
    I'm not used to the Gi (I've always done no-Gi)- it's heavy, sweaty & feels restrictive. 


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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 1198
    Well good luck to you. I’ve seen more “damage” from judo than I ever have BJJ though. 
    The finger soreness is something you just have to get along with when it comes to the Gi. Be careful what grips to utilise though, the older you get the easier it is to mess up your hands. 
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 507
    grungebob said:
    Well good luck to you. I’ve seen more “damage” from judo than I ever have BJJ though. 
    The finger soreness is something you just have to get along with when it comes to the Gi. Be careful what grips to utilise though, the older you get the easier it is to mess up your hands. 
    I'd agree with this actually (it's me with the broken ribs). In the JJ classes, it's a lot more controlled - Judo seems more a case of 'going hell for leather' during randori and free sparring. What also seems to clarify it for me, is when I broke my ribs, I had a lot of other people there then telling me all their stories of what they've broken in judo as well.

    It doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.... especially when it was a green belt that broke my ribs (I'm a white belt - you'd expect it to be the other way around).
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  • FarleyUK said:
    grungebob said:
    Well good luck to you. I’ve seen more “damage” from judo than I ever have BJJ though. 
    The finger soreness is something you just have to get along with when it comes to the Gi. Be careful what grips to utilise though, the older you get the easier it is to mess up your hands. 
    I'd agree with this actually (it's me with the broken ribs). In the JJ classes, it's a lot more controlled - Judo seems more a case of 'going hell for leather' during randori and free sparring. What also seems to clarify it for me, is when I broke my ribs, I had a lot of other people there then telling me all their stories of what they've broken in judo as well.

    It doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.... especially when it was a green belt that broke my ribs (I'm a white belt - you'd expect it to be the other way around).
    I can see this a bit more now- I had a chance to watch some high level randori tonight (Olympians & international players) bloody hell they attack with full force! It's much more explosive than the progressive pressure game I'm used to from BJJ. Even on the ground it's very "all or nothing". 

    I got thrown in the deep end tonight- coach put me in for Newaza sparring. It was fun, I've never rolled in Gi before & found it very restrictive- I don't know how to grip it to use it to my advantage yet, so I played my nogi game.
    I tapped the brown belt I rolled with & "proved my credentials". Now I am apparently fair game for brown/black when rolling. 
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 507
    FarleyUK said:
    grungebob said:
    Well good luck to you. I’ve seen more “damage” from judo than I ever have BJJ though. 
    The finger soreness is something you just have to get along with when it comes to the Gi. Be careful what grips to utilise though, the older you get the easier it is to mess up your hands. 
    I'd agree with this actually (it's me with the broken ribs). In the JJ classes, it's a lot more controlled - Judo seems more a case of 'going hell for leather' during randori and free sparring. What also seems to clarify it for me, is when I broke my ribs, I had a lot of other people there then telling me all their stories of what they've broken in judo as well.

    It doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.... especially when it was a green belt that broke my ribs (I'm a white belt - you'd expect it to be the other way around).
    I can see this a bit more now- I had a chance to watch some high level randori tonight (Olympians & international players) bloody hell they attack with full force! It's much more explosive than the progressive pressure game I'm used to from BJJ. Even on the ground it's very "all or nothing". 

    I got thrown in the deep end tonight- coach put me in for Newaza sparring. It was fun, I've never rolled in Gi before & found it very restrictive- I don't know how to grip it to use it to my advantage yet, so I played my nogi game.
    I tapped the brown belt I rolled with & "proved my credentials". Now I am apparently fair game for brown/black when rolling. 
    See, that really p*sses me off though. White belts should NOT be thrown in with black or brown, especially in such a high-impact situation.

    When I rolled with a brown belt, I didn't have the knowledge or moveset to be able to do much - so I ended up lying on him and pinning him. I know you learn through experience, but it just seems pretty bizarre.

    Maybe I'm just angry due to a supposed 'expert' breaking my ribs in what should have been a controlled environment!
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  • I get your point, but i thought it was fine to be honest- I told the coach & the guy I rolled with that I was a blue belt at BJJ.
    We played for position & felt reach other out before going for submissions. I never felt threatened on the ground, but that's where I'm comfortable. 

    There's NO way I'd have jumped in to Tachiwaza (?- stand up) with anyone, or been allowed to- I don't know how to ukemi reliably yet, let alone throw safely. They seem to separate Kyu & Dan grades for randori mostly, unless someone wants to work on technique. I was with the other white belts getting the basics under close tuition during that phase of the class. 
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  • If anything I feel a bit sorry for the Brown belt... Thrown in with a random white belt who claims to have some skills, then tapped by them. 
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 507
    I get your point, but i thought it was fine to be honest- I told the coach & the guy I rolled with that I was a blue belt at BJJ.
    We played for position & felt reach other out before going for submissions. I never felt threatened on the ground, but that's where I'm comfortable. 

    There's NO way I'd have jumped in to Tachiwaza (?- stand up) with anyone, or been allowed to- I don't know how to ukemi reliably yet, let alone throw safely. They seem to separate Kyu & Dan grades for randori mostly, unless someone wants to work on technique. I was with the other white belts getting the basics under close tuition during that phase of the class. 
    Yeah, I think the standing throws are a lot more advanced than the groundwork as you obviously need to get it right or you end up knackering yourself or your opponent.

    I last did JJ 18 years ago (I've started it back up 2 months ago, same time as judo), so it was all pretty rusty and new to me - so in that situation, I think throwing me in against a brown belt was a bit much.
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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 1198
    edited January 15
    If anything I feel a bit sorry for the Brown belt... Thrown in with a random white belt who claims to have some skills, then tapped by them. 
    Don’t. Most judokas do very little ground work. My friend is a first dan black belt in judo and he explained just what they did before moving away from bushido (sp?) style where they did some basic arm bars from turtle  to straight sports judo where ground work is basically a no no. 
    If your goal is to throw someone for ippon or to cover up for five seconds on the ground for the ref to stand you back up don’t be surprised that your ground game is junk. 

    Not taking anything away from your brown belt sub though, he should have enough experience to remain at least safe if not tap you out. 
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